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Richard Roberts – back in business, back in trouble

In Uncategorized on April 29, 2009 at 1:03 pm

The Herald reports…

“An American televangelist who insists he can cure cancer could face prosecution if he makes unsubstantiated claims over his alleged powers during a visit to Scotland next month.

Oklahoma-based preacher Richard Roberts has claimed he has already healed as many as 100,000 cancer sufferers around the world and is due to host a healing session in a Glasgow evangelical church where he will tell seriously ill people to “expect miracles”.

It is expected that those in the congregation of the Destiny Church in the city’s Shawlands area will also be asked for financial “offerings”, although the event itself is free.

But cancer experts have claimed Mr Roberts would be giving very vulnerable individuals false hopes of a recovery, with his claims branded cruel and damaging.

Glasgow City Council’s trading standards unit is monitoring the situation. A spokesman said: “If Mr Roberts, or anyone else, advertises or promises a cure for cancer then he is likely to be in breach of consumer protection regulations.

“Anyone advertising a product, which includes a service, must be able to deliver.”

Professor Jim Cassidy, head of Glasgow University’s Centre for Oncology, said that cancer victims often clutched at straws and that the event could be potentially damaging to them.

He added: “It would be interesting to challenge the legality of these claims. The idea that this individual can cure your cancer is quite cruel. I’d be keen to find out if there was a way of stopping such a thing.”

Terry Sanderson, of the National Secular Society, added: “Telling people they are cured when they are not is downright dangerous as well as being exploitative. We shall be keeping a very close eye on Mr Roberts during his time in the UK and challenging each and every unsubstantiated claim he makes.”

Mr Roberts has recently been forced to give up his post as president of a US college amid claims he abused his position and spent the institutions funds.

The board of Oral Roberts University in Oklahoma passed a vote of no confidence in him after it was alleged he used college money to buy a fleet of expensive cars, keep horses, convert a study into a wardrobe for his wife’s designer clothes, employed academics to do his children’s homework, and used the university jet to fly his daughter to the Caribbean.

A UK spokesman for Richard Roberts said: “I have been at services where the crippled have walked, the blind have seen and the deaf have heard. But there is no guarantee that everyone who attends will be cured, it just depends on that night.”

A spokeswoman for Destiny Church in Glasgow said they had total faith in Mr Roberts as a man of probity and proven healing ability.

She said: “Richard Roberts is not some wacky kind of preacher. I know when you watch some stuff on TV it can be a bit wacky, but he is really sound. People who are seriously ill and are suffering from cancer should definitely come along.”

From http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2504419.0.Preacher_warned_over_healing_claims_on_city_visit.php

New circus ringmasters – updated*

In Uncategorized on April 28, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Brian Houston twitters…

“CONGRATULATIONS TO PASTOR WAYNE ALCORN. Wayne is the newly elected president of Aust Christian Ch’s. Pray for he and lyn.. Great people.

Donna Crouch is a history maker.. First woman on the ACC National Executive. Wonderful.

Exec is Wayne A, Alun D, Keith A, Ashley E, Mike M Donna C, John Mc, Gerard K, Shane B. Fantastic team!

4 from NSW, 2 from Victoria, 1 from Qld, 1 from South Australia,1 from Western Australia. (Next time Tasmania maybe)???

Thank God for champions.. Danny Guglielmucci, Steve Penny, Ian Woods, and Jack Hanes who stepped down. The best is yet to come! B.”

From http://twitter.com/BrianCHouston

*James Macpherson blogs…

“The Australian Christian Churches today transitioned national leadership from Brian Houston to Wayne Alcorn.

It was all done with such a great spirit and made me so proud to be part of what is an incredible movement.

The other significant development was the appointment of the first woman to the National Executive.

Donna Crouch, from Hillsong Church, is now part of the executive. A great milestone in our history.”

From http://jamesmacpherson.blogspot.com/2009/04/significant-day.html

Holyfield chases his prosperity gospel losses – updated with video*

In Uncategorized on April 28, 2009 at 1:50 pm

*Part 1

Part 2

Everyday Christian reports…

“Tithing is a biblical imperative which is preached upon frequently. Giving 10 percent of your income – whether based on your net or your gross – is a stretch for many Christians. A study done by the Christian-based survey organization The Barna Group released last year revealed only 5 percent of Americans tithed.

That is not the case for retired professional boxer Evander Holyfield. The former four-time heavyweight champion had a chunk of his ear bit off in his most infamous bout against Mike Tyson in 1997. He received a $35 million payout for the fight. A flat 10 percent—$3.5 million – went to Atlanta’s World Changers Church.

The charitable giving of professional athletes, with a focus on Holyfield and Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, was the subject of a piece run Sunday by ESPN’s Outside the Lines news magazine.

World Changers and Missouri-based Joyce Meyer Ministries, which Warner is affiliated with, both preach the prosperity gospel. It states, in a nutshell, that God will bless those most who contribute substantially to the church.

When asked about Holyfield’s enormous contribution, World Changers Pastor Creflo Dollar said, “I’m as comfortable as I would be by someone whose tithe is five dollars.“

Pressed about Meyer’s recently sold $2 million home, Warner compared international ministry heads to corporate CEOs and wealthy athletes such as himself. “Does it mean I shouldn’t have (wealth) just because I’m a Christian?“ he asked rhetorically.

ESPN goes on to examine Dollar, Meyer and fellow televangelist T.D. Jakes and their lifestyles. It airs critics’ points of view and points out that Meyer and Dollar are part of the “Grassley Six” under a Senate investigation led by Iowa Republican Charles Grassley. Meyer made recently made her financial records public at Grassley’s behest.

Regardless of your opinion of the prosperity gospel, ESPN wraps up with a telling statement by Holyfield, who is facing foreclosure on his mansion.

“I’m going to pay my tithe first,“ he said when presented with the choice of paying it or his mortgage. “Me paying that tithe is going to better me in the long run.“

From http://www.everydaychristian.com/blogs/post/1758/

Gay marriage causes swine flu

In Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 at 11:19 pm

John McTernan blogs…

“Verse of The Day

Matthew 24:7,8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Commentary

The above verse describes the leading up to the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus. One of the signs will be pestilences or diseases for which there is no cure. These diseases will kill huge numbers of people world-wide. It appears as we near the time of the Day of The LORD, the medical system will collapse and be overwhelmed by numerous pestilences. This Swine Flu outbreak could be the lead-off to this, but it remains to be seen.
What did catch my attention is that the outbreak occurred at the very time there were major homosexual victories for “homosexual marriage.” Connecticut and Iowa just granted “homosexual marriage” while Maine is on way. The headlines today are the Swine Flu outbreak and homosexuals marrying in Iowa. Iowa and the other states “marrying homosexuals” creates what the Bible describes as an Ordinance of the Amorites. When nations make homosexuality an ordinance, this is the flash point for God’s judgment. It remains to be seen how this Swine Flu outbreak plays out, but remember it occurred at the precise time of legalizing “homosexual marriage.”

Mesiti comes clean

In Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 at 12:39 pm

“Logic opens the mind, but emotion opens the chequebook. You’ve got to connect with people from the heart to the head, not head to the heart.” – Pat Mesiti

Killer pastor selected victim ‘like choosing McDonald’s over Burger King’ – updated*

In Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 at 12:21 pm

*WMAR reports…

“Pastor Kevin Pushia was supposed to appear for his bail review hearing on charges including insurance fraud and ordering the murder of a mentally challenged man Monday, but at the last minute the pastor could not appear for what the court called undisclosed medical reasons.

“It could have a number of different reasons.  It could have been anywhere from that he may have been assaulted, he may have been aggressive toward others, it could have been a suicidal threat.  Just any number of medical reasons,” said Pushia’s attorney Russell Neverdon.

Neverdon says the last time he spoke with his client he was depressed, withdrawn and sobbing.
 
The charges against him are heinous.
 
Charging documents detail how Pushia took out 6 life insurance policies on mentally challenged victim Lemuel Wallace.  They go on to detail how Pushia worked with another church elder James Clea to pay a third party 50 thousand dollars to kill Wallace.  It is an apparent trigger man in this case Pushia’s attorney says is more of a public threat.

“I believe there are persons who are solely responsible for the taking of the life of Lemuel Wallace.  It’s a very tragic situation,” said Neverdon.

Meanwhile police are waiting on the extradition of James Clea who is being held on a fugitive warrant in South Carolina.
 
“Criminal charges are with the Baltimore City Police Department.  He will be formally charged once he is returned to Baltimore City,” said Margaret Burns with the State’s Attorney’s Office.

That could take two weeks to a month.
 
Police also confirmed today the pair had insurance policies taken out on an elderly woman as well.  About choosing to murder Wallace over that woman, we’re told Pushia told investigators it was an impromptu decision like picking McDonalds over Burger King.

Police are still investigating whether or not there was a trigger man.  Pushia’s bail review was pushed back until Tuesday.”

From http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story/Pushias-Court-Appearance-Delayed/Ny916Beqa0qXjco-XJgZcg.cspx

Security guards as Hill$ong sprinkles its manure on the Garden

In Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 at 12:00 pm

The Courier-Mail reports…

“Celebrity evangelist Brian Houston and his Hillsong mega-church have taken over one of Brisbane’s largest Pentecostal churches, Garden City Christian Church.

Sydney-based Mr Houston and his wife Bobbie were elected senior pastors of Garden City Christian Church yesterday. The fate of pastor Steve Dixon is yet to be explained to the congregation or made public.

Security guards prevented the media from entering church grounds during a secret ballot of registered members. The GCCC website later said the Houstons were chosen by “an overwhelming majority”.

Congregation members said Pastor Dixon intended to remain at the church but Hillsong said he was leaving in 12 months to go to Hong Kong.

Pastor Dixon, who attended yesterday’s service and election, declined to be interviewed.

Church member Priyance Nicks, a 20-year-old student from India who collects Brian Houston’s CDs, was pleased with the vote.

“He preaches good and his way of conveying messages touches your heart,” said Mr Nicks, carrying a Good News Bible. “Whenever he comes here, there is going to be a big crowd.”

Many church-goers were unwilling to speak publicly. Others voiced their opposition to Hillsong in subtle ways.

“Vote No, Keep Local Leadership,” read a message inside the windscreen of a vehicle parked outside the church entrance on Rover St, Mount Gravatt, in Brisbane’s south.

The church would not release details of the vote but church-goers said it was 79 per cent in favour of the Houstons from 669 ballots.

Some church members were suspicious of the outcome, saying scrutineers were selected by the church board which had nominated the Houstons.

Hundreds of churchgoers were not allowed to vote because they were not registered.

Pastor Houston declined to be interviewed.”

From http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,27574,25391680-3102,00.html

Houston junior sizes up the latest acquisition for the family business

In Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 at 12:22 am

Ben Houston twitters…

Am currently standing on the stage of what is soon to be Hillsong Brisbane!!! So exciting!”

From http://twitter.com/BenjaminHouston

Hill$ong Brisbane – done deal

In Uncategorized on April 26, 2009 at 1:27 pm

The Garden City Christian Church website reports…

“It was decided at an Extraordinary General Meeting of the registered church members of Garden City Christian Church, today Sunday 26th April 2009, that Pastors Brian and Bobbie Houston be invited to accept the position of Senior Pastors of the church. The vote was carried with an overwhelming majority.”

From http://www.gardencity.org.au/

Fighting for peace is like f…ing for virginity

In Uncategorized on April 25, 2009 at 8:13 pm

Lance (Group Sects) writes…

Sooner or later,  I know I’m going to get my head punched in by some Pente Christian or their pastor.

Aren’t I being a bit paranoid?

No, because it nearly happened for real on Friday night.

I was walking through Perth’s Murray Street mall, which runs right through the centre of this dull yet vaguely appealing city.

The mall is almost taken over on Friday nights by various Pente churches and street preachers/evangelists.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25220293-2761,00.html

I was walking past the regular preacher ‘Warren’ who was involved in an intense discussion with some coppers.

It turned out that there’d been complaints to the Police from passers-by from people who felt intimidated by him and one guy apparently started getting a bit physical with ‘Warren’.

After a few minutes, ‘Warren’ picked-up where he left off with his preaching after being told by the cops to tone-down his aggression.

A few minutes later, further down the mall, and I ran into the Potter’s House group sect.

I stopped and listened to the guitar-playing, the singing and the preaching.

Mainly I just stand there and listen carefully to the content and watch the reactions of the shoppers, which of course, when confronted with loveless fanatics are nearly always negative.

Anyway, one of the older Potter’s House types wandered up to me and handed me some flier and went through his standard ‘are you born again’ patter.

I always make sure I bring up the ‘gay’ thing early in the conversation because that usually speeds-up their going-in-for-the-kill-you’re-a-sinner-you-need-to-repent routine.

But I took him on, because he kept saying that I could ‘overcome sin’.

That of course is crap because only Jesus had overcome sin.

He kept saying I could overcome sin and I kept asking him how often he sinned each day (while reminding him that lying is a sin, so he couldn’t lie about how often he sinned, because that would be a sin)

This, of course, never goes over well with Pente’s and Potter’s House types, because their theology is built around the ‘I’ve got the victory in Jesus’ theology.

After about 5 minutes of this back and forward about his sin vs homo’s sins…he snaps.

Big-time.

He starts walking away from me.

I continue the discussion and follow him.

He turns around and points in my face and says…quote….’I'm going to bash your face’.

Woh.

He then continues walking behind the Police post (information booth) in the centre of the mall, out of sight from his Potter’s House mates, and beckons me to follow.

I follow, out of curiosity, and sure enough, he’s standing in the semi-darkness, waiting to do a bit of gay-bashing – directly under a City of Perth surveillance camera.

I just laughed to myself, and wandered over to the guitar-wielding minstrels to track down their pastor.

After informing him that one of his team had offered to ‘bash my face’, I thought I’d try my luck and see if I could get an apology (knowing that Pente pastors never apologise)

I got an insincere deadpan apology (more than I expected) and he said he’d ‘talk’ with his team-member; just not there in the mall.

The argument with the bash-my-face guy started out with him saying that I was operating ‘in the flesh’ instead of in the Spirit.

But within 10 minutes, I had this victorious Christian of 30 years acting like a 13 year old, getting ready to bash me behind the shelter shed at playtime.

Of course, he wasn’t acting in the flesh.

By now, he’d have rationalised it as righteous anger in the face of an attack by Satan and his pastor would have patted him on the head and kissed it better.

So, if I suddenly stop posting here, it’s probably because I’m in Royal Perth Hospital with my jaw wired shut and without wireless access.

But I’m not going to stand there and be spiritually bullied by a Potter’s House prick.

If they go into a public place to confront people, they need to learn how to be confronted right back.

Matt Ford – The Pisshead Pastor – *updated

In Uncategorized on April 24, 2009 at 11:00 am

Third Heaven Drunken Glory Parties, 2009!

It is one of our goals in life to leave a trail of Holy Ghost Inebriated Christians every where we go.

To help us accomplish our faith goal  we are targeting dead dry religious churches that need a good old fashioned “Ho” down with the Holy G.

Visit our Booking page to get Matt and his team of drunks to visit your church and blow the place up for Jesus!”

http://www.holyghost.com.au/joomla/index.php/drunken-glory-party

Some random Shnoigyboingies from Matt Ford’s march 6 & 7 meetings in Terrigal NSW. Although we had many healings, the main focus of the event was impartation to raise up a drunken army!”

*updated

After TCS commented on this thread, I received an email circular from Pisshead Matt’s ‘ministry’.

In part it reads….

“Hey there you Jesus lovers,

We are just a few weeks away from hosting JC for two nights of drunken glory.
 
We are sad to say that Ben Dunn is no longer able to visit Australia at this time. He is going on a missions trip with Georgian Banov and we bless him in that. We will get Ben back later in the year for a week of serious shiggy.
 
We kick off on Friday the 15th at 7:29pm with a night of Ecstatic Worship with and a big slobbery drunken message from Matt.
 
Saturday morning we are going Treasure Hunting for Souls. We are teaming up with Destiny 4 Life and the Bill Johnson Schools of Supernatural Ministry and taking their students to the shops and malls and unleashing Heaven onto them.  More on that soon.
 
Saturday nights starts at 7:29pm and Sunday kicks off at 6:00pm.  The Rev will be ministering both nights.
 
Monday and Tuesday is John, starting at 7:29pm
 
All meetings will be recorded for DVD and CD and will be available shortly after the event.
 
Venue for these meetings is Burpengary Baptist Community Church, Pitt Rd, Burpengary.
 
We don’t charge for conferences or ministry events, because that’s straight from the pit of hell…. But we will be taking up love offering for Matt and John each night. Both guys will have product available and we have CC and Eftpos facilities which will be used by both Sons of Thunder and Fire It Up………..”
On the love offering circuit, these guys come ready for (trans-)action.

Oral Roberts sees another ‘900 foot tall Jesus’

In Uncategorized on April 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Brian Houston twitters…

WHAT AN HONOUR! I have just spent time with Oral Roberts in his home. 91 years old and still full of faith!

http://twitter.com/BrianCHouston

Oral Roberts and Brian Houston

Oral Roberts and Brian Houston

Twitter comments…

“I can’t believe you got to meet him! I can only imagine what that must have been like.

lindaalexia on April 22, 2009
Mr. Roberts is the man! What an honor :)
 
benetoss on April 22, 2009
Absolutely brilliant. Inspiring.
 
mystik23 on April 22, 2009
That is SO cool!
 
terrencem on April 22, 2009
One great meets another… Love it.. it’s like the passing on of the batton!
 
gochadbartlett on April 22, 2009
That is an honor…A true pioneer of the faith. Thank you for the pic.
 
jukkamy on April 22, 2009
Great!! :)
 
tgonzalezperc on April 22, 2009
sweet! just like seeing Paul or Peter. He has been a true warrior for Jesus Christ! Praise the Lord!”

‘Bishop’ busted

In Uncategorized on April 23, 2009 at 6:47 am

The Charlotte Observer reports…

The leader of two Charlotte-area churches was accused Tuesday of evading several hundred thousand dollars in taxes while spending lavishly on travel and luxury cars – including a $175,000 Bentley GT he leased from 2005 to 2008.

A federal grand jury in Charlotte indicted Bishop Anthony L. Jinwright on 14 counts – including filing false tax returns, tax evasion, mail fraud and making false statements to federal agents.

Jinwright, 52, heads Greater Salem City of God in west Charlotte and Greater Salem at the Lake in Cornelius. Together they draw about 2,000 people, said an official at the Charlotte church.

Jinwright, who also owns funeral homes in Charlotte and Pineville, has written a book about partnering with the Holy Spirit called “Rise Up: Breaking Free into Anointed Living.” His church Web site advertises a radio show called “The Wright Word,” which airs Sundays at 6:30 a.m.

The indictment says Jinwright and his wife’s expenses were too great for the income listed on their joint tax returns from 2001-2006.

“Defendant accumulated a number of luxury assets and enjoyed an extravagant lifestyle which far exceeded his reported taxable income for those years,” the court document said.

On Tuesday, Jinwright’s Lexus SUV – with a vanity plate reading “JIN’S SUV” – was parked in a reserved spot at the Greater Salem City of God off Brookshire Freeway.

Bishop Alan Porter, who said he was the church’s executive pastor, told an Observer reporter at the church that Jinwright was unavailable for an interview about the charges.

“We have no comment at this time,” he said, adding: “Trust in God.”

Indictment numbers

The 16-page indictment says Jinwright failed to report $875,000 in taxable income for him and his wife, Harriet Porter-Jinwright. She is listed on the church Web site as a co-pastor, but is not charged.

The indictment alleges Jinwright owes from $200,000 to $400,000 in unpaid federal and state income taxes.

The indictment also details salary and reimbursements of $3.1 million for Jinwright from the church from 2001-2006. It also lists more than $400,000 in income from speaking engagements and book sales.

Jinwright’s personal expenditures include $198,000 in total car lease payments from 2001 to the present, according to the indictment. The vehicles listed: a BMW 530i, a Mercedes-Benz S550V, five Lexus vehicles and a Maybach 57 – billed as a luxury sedan with a 550-horsepower engine and worth about a quarter of a million dollars……….”

From http://www.charlotteobserver.com/597/story/677826.html

Is a Pente church really just one giant office?

In Uncategorized on April 23, 2009 at 6:29 am

news.com.au reports…

“The office is an artificial environment, where we toil away in a “creepy” corporate culture and wear a mask of false cheerfulness – all the while secretly wondering “is this all there is?”

So says author Alain de Botton, who shadowed everyone from accountants to biscuit-factory workers in a bid to understand what makes the modern economy really tick: the world of work.

“A lot of company cultures are a little bit creepy, because they are trying to suggest that the company is like your friend or like your home,” says Mr de Botton.

It’s creepy because it’s quite obviously not true, he says.

“A lot of these firms, in a downturn, having spoken about love and friendship and all that, don’t lose much sleep about getting rid of 20 per cent of the workforce,” he points out.

“And that really fries your head, to be told ‘we love you, we love you’ and then to be got rid of.”

Office life exists on a level of “shallow cheerfulness”, and talking about a crisis of meaning or any other deep feeling is strictly frowned on.

Although it may be perfectly natural to sit at your desk, staring at the sunshine and wondering if you’re wasting your life, talking about an existential crisis at work is a big no-no.

“Office life goes on under a cheerful patter, you’re not supposed to have heavy problems, you’re just supposed to say hi,” he says.

“In a way that’s what makes the office nice, it’s like an escape from heaviness.”

The problem comes when work triggers strong feelings, which you have to mask with chirpiness.

“You fall in love with colleagues, you hate them, you envy them, you feel unbelievably furious. And what are you supposed to do because all you’ve got at hand are tools of cheerfulness, of mateyness, and that’s really difficult.”

In real life, if you’re angry you can yell, if you’re upset you can burst into tears, but at the office you must appear normal all times.

“In a relationship, if you feel something’s wrong with your partner, you can shout and them for an hour, you can weep like a child, do all these things which seem very immature and crazy, but they are the stuff of relationships.

“But at the office you’re supposed to be this sort of ‘normal person’ and we’re not normal, any of us, and that’s the problem of offices.”

So if you’re sitting in your cubicle wondering if this is all there is in life, you’re not alone, says Mr de Botton, who calls us ‘hopeful creatures’ who can’t help but look for deeper meaning as we toil away.

“I think unfortunately for all of us, we do search for meaning,” says Mr de Botton.

“We’ve all got too much imagination, it’s like saying ‘Can you stay in an unhappy marriage and not notice?’ Well actually, most of us are going to start noticing and worrying.”

So what to do if you hate your job or feel like you’re wasting your life?

“I think take those feelings very seriously,” says Mr de Botton, who says having a crisis of meaning is completely normal.

“On a Sunday afternoon, the light is dimming; a lot of us feel ‘well where am I really headed?’ But then we try to quash that thought, we put on the TV or go jogging or something.

“My advice would be stick with that thought, allow yourself to have a crisis, take the crisis as seriously as it deserves to be, because it is a major part of life.”

From http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25373517-2,00.html

Another Hill$ong takeover?

In Uncategorized on April 22, 2009 at 3:39 pm

Craig S blogs…

“Interesting article about Hillsong taking over a church in Brisbane. They seem to be doing more and more locations these days. They started a church in Campbelltown a few years back, and I’ve heard rumours they are going to take control of an existing pentecostal church in Narellan…..”

http://creative2567.blogspot.com/2009/04/hillsong-takeovers.html

And Jeremy Halcrow comments (on a different blog)…

“…..Hillsong has two campuses one north of the harbour and one south for a very good reason.. people don’t cross the bridge/tunnel if they can help to.

In fact Hillsong has started setting up satellite campuses because they realise the limits of the mega-church model. The latest I believe is in the Narellan area.

My understanding that this new strategy has arisen because of their well documented problems developing their Waterloo campus due to planning restrictions/neighbour complaints etc…..”

http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/ministry/churchlife/mega_churches_part_2/

On legal advice, I must clarify – this is *not* video footage from a Mesiti seminar

In Uncategorized on April 22, 2009 at 2:42 pm

(Pat, it’s called ‘parody’ – perfectly legal)

Brian Houston sacked Pat Mesiti from Hill$ong. So why is Houston now back working for Mesiti at a ’secret location’? – updated*

In Uncategorized on April 21, 2009 at 2:30 pm

*’Greg Cassar’ has emailed this contribution…

“Hi Geelongboy,

http://groupsects.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/brian-houston-sacked-pat-mesiti-from-hillong-so-why-is-houston-now-back-working-for-mesiti-at-a-secret-location/
     Please remove this blog post immediately.

I am writing as my company represents a technical arm of Pat Mesiti’s 
business.

In reference to your blog post –>

Pat Mesiti is not a sect and his message is not a promotion of 
christianity. This blog video utilises copywrited material and Pat 
Mesiti’s legal arm will be filing a law suit if you do not remove this 
blog post within 24 hours .

Please advise when it is removed.

Thanks, Regards

Greg Cassar
Internet Marketing Strategist
InternetMarketingDoneForYou.com
Office: (02) 42 686 625′

Thank you Greg for clarifying that Pat Mesiti’s message does not promote Christianity.

Group Sects now acknowledges that Mr. Mesiti’s teachings do not, nor have ever had any connection with Christianity or the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

The blog regrets the error.

God-botherers

In Uncategorized on April 21, 2009 at 1:30 pm

Pastor Murray Campbell blogs…

“On Sunday 14 of us from Church went and knocked on a couple hundred houses in the streets surrounding Mentone Baps.

Our aim:

  • To hand in person a card inviting people to our new evening church

Our strategy:

  • Dress casual (less like a JW and Mormon the better)
  • We gave our names and said where we were from
  • Our line was, ‘we’re letting everyone know of a new night church that’s starting in a couple of weeks. You’re welcome to come along. Here’s a flyer for you.’ and we left it at that. No drawing people into lengthy conversations, no Gospel presentations, just telling people that something new is starting at their local church.’
  • We never put flyers in letter boxes with the notice, no junk mail.

The results:

  • Only 10-15% of people were rude to us
  • Half of houses had no one home (when is there a good time to visit?)
  • Half of the people we spoke to were indifferent, but polite. I’m guesing, for them the Church is irrelevant but not bad.
  • The rest were polite and expressed vague interest. Each duo who went out seemed to have one positive contact. One Chinese lady asked me, “do you have to be religious to come to Church?” Love that question. Answer – no. In my mind I add – especially no. She then enquired as to what time Church is on.
  • The younger the person, the more likely they are to take our literature

Reflections:

  • Door knocking is not the best evangelism strategy. It may work in the USA but it is pretty ineffective in Australia. I would think we would need to hit 200-300 homes in order to find 1 person would in reality will come to church.
  • To reach the community we have to try anything at our disposal.
  • At least door knocking raises Mentone Baptist Church in people’s consciousness.
  • I am praying that some of those whom we visited, will come and visit us. In everything we do I am always reminded that it requires an act of God’s grace to rouse people to consider Christ.”

From http://mentonebaptistchurch.blogspot.com/2009/04/glories-of-door-knocking.html

Vote? What vote? Don’t we already own Garden City Church and everybody in it?

In Uncategorized on April 21, 2009 at 12:35 pm

The Brisbane Times reports…

The Hillsong juggernaut has planned a victory party on May 1 to celebrate its arrival in Brisbane despite its takeover of a Pentecostal church south of the city not yet receiving the green light from congregants.

Registered members of the Garden City Christian Church in Mount Gravatt will on Sunday vote on whether to officially appoint evangelists and Hillsong founders Brian and Bobbie Houston as senior pastors in a move that would see the church renamed the Hillsong Brisbane Campus.

Despite claiming their pending footprint into Queensland was merely a partnership with the existing church, an information document circulated at Garden City at a service on April 5 has left little doubt about the Houstons’ intentions to change the face of the congregation.

“We intend, as indicated earlier, to operate as Hillsong Brisbane Campus,” the document noted.

Anticipating the approval of the takeover by members will be a mere formality, Hillsong heavies have planned a large housewarming party at the church on May 1 – the day after the three-day Australian Christian Churches (ACC) national conference winds up at the Gold Coast Convention Centre.

ACC, of which Mr Houston is the head, is the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God denomination.

“They’re going to have a gathering at the church to celebrate their win,” said a Mt Gravatt church congregrant, who asked that her name not be published.

The congregant fears the nature of the Mt Gravatt church, which has more than 1000 members, will continue to go backwards under the stewardship of the Hillsong franchise.

“It used to be a really humble church and it’s totally changed over the years,” she said.

“They do really, really frivolous things. Once they did skydiving to raise money for missions.

“If people want to support the church they will – you don’t have to have big names.”

She said her family intended to end their long-time association with the church when Hillsong took over.

Hillsong has indicated it would allow the church’s acting pastor Steve Dixon to remain for a transitional period and that members would not lose control over church assets under the so-called partnership.

But one former Hillsong congregant has warned that the “controlling cult” made fundraising and recruitment its highest priorities, with church members holding few rights.

“They’re coming off all kind and pastoral when in fact it is simply a company takeover,” said Tanya Levin, author of the 2007 book People in Glass Houses, about her experiences under Hillsong.

“It will be interesting to to see how much of their former church as they know it survives.

“Because the Assemblies of God have got a history of going in, taking over and pretty quickly throwing out everybody that the previous church actually thought were important.”

Hillsong’s headquarters, the “Hills” campus, is in the Sydney suburb of Baulkham Hills but it also has two other campuses in the city. It conducts services around Sydney and has established international extensions in the UK, the Ukraine, South Africa and Sweden.

Ms Levin said the move into Brisbane was the latest example of the Houstons’ desire to spread their influence.

“They’re really explicit about wanting other areas in the world,” she said.

“They want Africa, particularly, as well as India.”

The church has established a growing presence within political circles in recent years, with then-Prime Minister John Howard opening its Baulkham Hills complex in 2002 and the likes of Peter Costello, Alexander Downer, Helen Coonan and Bob Carr having attended Hillsong events and conventions.”

From http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/qld-news/hillsong-plans-brisbane-housewarming-before-vote-cast-20090421-add3.html

Hill$ong’s Garden City deception unravels

In Uncategorized on April 21, 2009 at 12:59 am

The Courier Mail reports…

“One of Brisbane’s largest Pentecostal congregations has been stunned by news their pastor could be forced out when the church is taken over by Hillsong.

The Sydney-based mega church is set to take control of the 1000-member Garden City Christian Church in Mt Gravatt on Sunday if Hillsong evangelists Brian and Bobbie Houston are named senior pastors of GCCC.

In a statement, Hillsong said current GCCC pastor Steve Dixon would remain only for a 12-month “transitional period”. That stunned longtime members who were told Pastor Dixon wanted to stay.

“Nobody has been told anything about that. That’s the first I’ve heard of that,” said one member.

Pastor Dixon is not commenting as the church waits on Sunday’s vote to determine if the Houstons will control the church.”

From http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25355503-3102,00.html

Creflo Dollar flogging a dead horse

In Uncategorized on April 20, 2009 at 3:31 pm

The Fayette Daily News reports…

“A little more than a year ago, Pastor Creflo Dollar installed a locked gate across a small unpaved pathway that his neighbor Joey Brooks used to access the back portion of his property across Whitewater Creek.

Brooks sued.

In response to that lawsuit seeking easement to the property filed by Brooks’ attorney Nick Garcia, attorneys for Dollar argued that the gate was needed to stop access on the unpaved road because traffic on the road would cause disruption to the horses, said Garcia.

Tuesday, after a horse was found dead from apparent malnutrition, it was announced that the Georgia Department of Agriculture is investigating the treatment of horses on the Dollar property off Sandy Creek Road in Fayette County, and that a Dollar family friend has been cited in the incident.

The dead horse was found on Brooks’ property.

According to Garcia, nothing was left of the horse except bones because “coyotes had apparently gotten to it.”

According to reports, Debi King sold the horses to Jason Mitchell, a Dollar family friend, after Mitchell said the animals would be kept on the pastor’s property.

Records indicate Dollar told inspectors he and Mitchell agreed to keep the horses on his property so kids at Dollar’s church could use them for recreation. Soon after, the agriculture department received a complaint about the horse’s poor health.

Records showed the horses had no water, or had dirty water. They weren’t properly fed and that led to their body weights dropping to dangerous levels, according to records.

Garcia said his client had noticed the condition of the horses recently.

“He did notice that the horses were not being treated properly or taken care of,” said Garcia.
Mitchell was cited for inhumane treatment of
animals.

According to reports, Mitchell said the horse that died was sick, which is something King disputes.

A spokesperson for Dollar said the horses were owned by Mitchell and on Dollar’s property, but the pastor was not responsible or involved in their care.

Garcia filed his suit seeking use of the unpaved path about a year ago. He said Brooks had been using the road for about 10 or 15 years before Dollar purchased the house and installed the locked gate.

“My client just wants access to his property,” said Garcia.

“We feel it’s ironic that the reason they cited for not allowing access was ‘protection of the horses,’ and now they are being investigated for treatment of the animals.

“It’s also ironic that in their motion for summary judgement, Dollar’s attorneys state that the fence is needed to keep the horses from straying,” said Garcia.

“The dead horse that was found on my client’s property had already strayed.”

From http://www.fayettedailynews.com/article.php?id_news=3373

Dodgy US churches face tougher regulation

In Uncategorized on April 20, 2009 at 12:58 pm

World Magazine reports…

“Shakespeare warned us to “beware the Ides of March.” Technically, that’s March 15, but in the nonprofit world this year, the week surrounding that date was as ominous and promising as it was in Caesar’s day.

Events began to unfold on March 10, when Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, finally broke his silence on what he is thinking about new regulations with a speech to a forum of nonprofit executives. While not specific about his plans for legislative reform, he made it clear reforms are coming.

“This year marks the 40th anniversary of the enactment of the 1969 private foundation rules,” Grassley said. “In these 40 years, we’ve seen explosive growth in charities and charitable giving. What we haven’t seen, though, is the law, and the enforcement of the law, keep up with that growth.”

He then broadly spelled out the improvements he is hoping to bring about, including greater transparency for both charities and foundations. “I believe that sunshine is the best disinfectant,” Grassley said. “So, I will continue to . . . conduct hearings and I will continue to write to specific charities to better understand their activities. I also expect my staff to continue drafting legislative proposals. Finally, I will continue to press the Internal Revenue Service to improve reporting requirements for charities.”

Some of Grassley’s targets are paying attention. Just a couple of days later, on March 12, Joyce Meyer Ministries, one of the organizations Grassley has been investigating, was accepted for membership in the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA). The acceptance followed years of public scrutiny—and what Joyce Meyer called “significant” changes in the way the ministry does business. While the ECFA’s welcoming of Meyer into its membership took many by surprise, ECFA President Dan Busby told us, “I personally visited Joyce Meyer Ministries, and they were completely transparent with us.”

Also accepted for membership in the ECFA was Oral Roberts University, which was not the object of a Grassley investigation. However, ORU has been for the past two years embroiled in a very public fight for financial survival that included the ouster of most of its board and its president, Richard Roberts, the son of the founder.

Ole Anthony, founder of the Trinity Foundation, a ministry watchdog group, called these developments “steps in the right direction, but only first steps.” The Trinity Foundation and other donor advocates have supported Grassley’s call for the updating of nonprofit regulations, even while notable evangelical nonprofits—including the Family Research Council, the Liberty Legal Institute, and Focus on the Family—have criticized the investigation.

“I’m not normally in favor of increased government regulation,” Anthony said. “But we’ve been investigating fraudulent Christian ministries for years hoping that reputable Christian leaders would rise up and call them out. But they didn’t.”

Jill Gerber, Grassley’s spokesperson, said Grassley’s staff is “still working on the review” of four televangelists in the so-called “Grassley Six”: Benny Hinn, Randy and Paula White, Eddie Long, and Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. Their organizations have supplied “incomplete responses” to Grassley’s repeated requests for information.

But the ministry that is likely in the center of the Grassley bull’s-eye is Creflo Dollar’s World Changers Church International and Creflo Dollar Ministries. According to a March 12 statement released by Grassley praising Joyce Meyer, Dollar was ominously singled out as having “declined to provide any of the requested information.”

All of that to say this: While the mainstream media were focused on the gyrating stock market and Bernard Madoff’s March 12 “perp walk,” for donors and ministries desiring greater integrity the events in the days just before and after the Ides of March 2009 might end up being propitious.”

From http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15250

Hill$ong takeover of Garden City Church a ‘partnership’ says Houston. But what happens after 12 months?

In Uncategorized on April 19, 2009 at 10:45 pm

The Courier-Mail reports…

“Sydney mega-church Hillsong has made a controversial takeover bid for the Garden City Christian Church in Brisbane’s Mt Gravatt.

Wealthy evangelists Brian and Bobbie Houston, who have built Hillsong into a force for Christian fundamentalism in Australia, will become senior pastors of the Garden City church next Sunday if registered members agree to the bid unveiled three weeks ago.

Mr Houston declined to be interviewed but issued a statement through Hillsong that the move was a partnership not a takeover.

Congregation members are divided over the move, with some fearing a loss of the Brisbane church’s identity, independence and assets to the Houstons.

“I don’t like that he’ll have complete control over everything, he can hire and fire his own board and everything will be controlled by Hillsong Sydney – by him,” said one long-time Brisbane church member, who declined to be named.

But Hillsong’s statement said the constitution and the legal structure of the church would not be changed, nor would members lose control over assets.

The Houstons would not move from Sydney to run the church, but would preach there occasionally, and would allow the church’s acting pastor, Steve Dixon, to continue for a year, Hillsong said.

Naming the Houstons as senior pastors was a surprise announcement at a church service three weeks ago and applauded by many.

Mr Houston is head of Australia’s Assemblies of God.

The leadership of the Garden City church has been in limbo for several months with Mr Dixon committed to stepping down for a position in Hong Kong.

Hillsong said Mr Dixon still intended to go to Hong Kong but Mr Houston wanted him to stay for a “transitional period”.

The Courier-Mail was banned from interviewing people about the alliance at the Garden City church yesterday..

Garden City Christian Church attracts hundreds to each of its Sunday services, and has more than 1000 members.

The takeover has been criticised outside the church by a former Brisbane pastor, Phillip L. Powell, and The Thinking Theologian, a blog run by a former Hillsong staffer.

Mr Powell warned that Hillsong was “spreading its tentacles into Brisbane”.

“This is franchising gone mad in the name of church planting. Is this another ploy to increase Hillsong’s assets and financial clout?,” Mr Powell asked.”

From http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25355503-952,00.html

Church kiosk fraud

In Uncategorized on April 19, 2009 at 11:24 am

Black Voice News reports…

The Easter Sunday services at San Bernardino Temple Missionary Baptist Church filled the pews and aisles overflowing into the choir loft and lobby. But before Dr. Raymond W. Turner recounted the death and resurrection of Jesus he prayed for the hundreds of African-American congregations, including his own, lured into a nationwide kiosk scam.

D.C. attorney general Peter Nickles, in a 16-page affidavit alleges that five companies including an Irvine leasing firm defrauded at least 50 African-American churches in Washington alone.  Court papers show the alleged scam bilked as many as 300 churches in Maryland, Michigan, Wisconsin, Texas, and California including the Inland Empire, where the scam clawed into at least a dozen prominent Black churches.  “A program that was supposed to help churches with ministry and outreach has turned into a nightmare,” said Pastor Turner. In late 2007 his trustees signed off on a $40,000, 48-month contract for what was marketed as ‘cost free information kiosks’.

Christian Fellowship recalls representatives from D.C. based Television Broadcasting Online, Inc.  (TVBO) and its subsidiary Urban Interfaith Network presented members of the Inland Concerned African-American Churches with what sounded like a win-win business plan.  Beckley said local TVBO representative, Wayne Wilson who is African-American offered churches cost free interactive information kiosks, to be placed prominently in their foyers and activity centers. The kiosks would allow members to access church information and community activities.  “The companies kept insisting the kiosks would pay for themselves through paid advertisements, he said.”

“The idea said Turner was we would receive “sponsor checks” from advertisers who wanted to reach our church members. In turn churches would agree to house the kiosks at no cost to the congregation.”

According to the lawsuit, as part of the agreement to get the kiosks congregation officials unwittingly signed contracts that tied them to long term lease payments amounting to $40,000 or more and gave TVBO and it’s leasing partners direct debit access to church bank accounts.  In fact the suit alleges the computer equipment housed inside the kiosks was valued at no more than a few thousand dollars, and many, if not most of the kiosks never worked.

“What we received was a cheap PC locked in a fancy plywood box, said Turner. The printer and ‘kiosk sponsors’ they promised never materialized.” “Fortunately we didn’t allow them to debit our account,” said Turner. “We did not lose money. They gave us checks to cover the first three months of the lease.  When the company couldn’t get the equipment to work and the “sponsor checks” stopped coming we stopped paying the lease.”

That the clergy say led leasing company Balboa Capital of Irvine to sue seeking full payment of the lease agreement.  Beckley who has two kiosks said when TVBO stopped sending the ad checks Ecclesia continued to pay the $900 monthly payments.

“We had a contract so we paid them for 2 months because we trusted the companies to repair the equipment and honor the contract. We wanted to give them a chance to make it right.

We figured a lot of churches have these kiosks so the “brothers” must be legitimate.  We couldn’t have been more wrong. When we contacted Balboa they denied having anything to do with TVBO. We were shocked,” said Beckley.”

D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty, said dozens of Washington churches are scrambling to dig themselves out of the financial mess caused by the alleged scam. Mt. Horeb Baptist Church established by freed slaves in the 1880s lost $62,000. The money was taken out of its bank by an unauthorized debit. Last week Fenty called the scam a “cold hearted” civil rights violation and demanded a federal probe.

“These companies knew exactly what they were doing. They intentionally targeted African-American congregations.  They made it seem like they were bringing a technological advance to the church when in fact they were setting themselves up to take thousands of dollars from churches that needed the money for their own survival,” said Fenty.

Meanwhile local churches including St. Paul A.M.E. Church and New Hope Missionary Baptist Church in San Bernardino, several churches in Riverside and the high desert plus hundreds more across the country are battling costly lawsuits seeking thousands of dollars for the kiosk leases.

Dozens of churches lured into the scam have formed United Churches for Justice claiming fraud and civil conspiracy.  They are seeking monetary damages and to have the leases voided.

Balboa vehemently denied the allegations claiming they simply provided the financing and had no contact with the churches other than when they signed leases. The suit also names what many involved described as the “scheme kingpins”, D.C. businessmen Willie Perkins and Michael J. Morris.

Other defendants named in the case include TVBO, Urban Interfaith and United Leasing Associates of America of Brookfield, Wisconsin and Chesapeake Industrial Leasing of Baltimore. All have denied wrong doing or did not respond to telephone inquiries.

“While we are disheartened to learn that more of our fellow pastors have been victimized in the same way we have, we are encouraged that public officials are taking action and seeking justice,” said St. Paul A.M.E. Church senior pastor Rev. Larry Campbell. “We will continue to press on in our litigation and assist any government agencies who investigate these issues.”

“We feel violated, these companies went after African-American churches that really need the funds to help the poor and the needy,” said Beckley. The biggest disappointment is that sadly these were our own folk – African-Americans allegedly taking advantage of African-Americans. It’s a nightmare, but the goal now is to cut our losses and move on.”

“If Jesus can overcome the cross and death, surely the church can recover,” said Turner, “We’ve just got to become better watchmen.”

From http://www.blackvoicenews.com/content/view/43090/3/

Turning off the sprinkler

In Uncategorized on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 am

Time Magazine reports…

“More than 100,000 former Christians have downloaded “certificates of de-baptism” in a bid to publicly renounce the faith, according to the London-based National Secular Society (NSS). ‘

Terry Sanderson, the society’s president, says the group started the online de-baptism initiative five years ago to mock the practice of baptizing infants too young to consent to religious rites. Their web site invites visitors to “Liberate yourself from the Original Mumbo-Jumbo that liberated you from the Original Sin you never had” and allows them to print out a paper certificate that uses quasi-formal language to “reject baptism’s creeds and other such superstitions.” But in recent months, as tens of thousands began to download the certificate, organizers realized that they had struck a chord with atheists and once-devout church members who are leaving churches they see as increasingly out-of-tune with modern life. “Churches have become so reactionary, so politically active that people actually want to make a protest against them now,” Sanderson says. “They’re not just indifferent anymore. They’re actively hostile.”

The campaign has become so popular — with nearly 1,000 certificates downloaded each week — that the NSS has started taking orders for certificates printed on parchment, at $4.50 each; they’ve sold nearly 2,000 in just three weeks. “Every time the Pope says something outrageous we get another rush on the certificate,” Sanderson says, noting that traffic to the site skyrocketed last month following Pope Benedict XVI’s comment that condoms could worsen the HIV/AIDS epidemic in Africa.

Public gaffes like that one may explain the anti-Catholic backlash driving similar movements elsewhere in the world. In October last year, Italy’s Union of Rationalist Atheist and Agnostics sponsored the country’s first-ever “De-baptism Day,” when the no-longer faithful attended protests and passed out de-baptism forms to areligious people who didn’t have internet connections to download them. More recently, on March 2, atheists and feminists in Argentina teamed up to launch the “Not in my Name” Internet campaign which encourages Roman Catholics to notify their local bishops of their desire to officially leave the church. So far more than 1,800 have joined their Facebook group or signed the petition on their website http://www.apostasiacolectiva.org 

According to Argentine campaigner Ariel Bellino, a former Catholic: “The church counts all those who’ve been baptized as Catholic and lobbies for legislation based on that number, so we’re trying to convey the importance of people expressing they no longer belong to the church.” Campaigners say that’s particularly important in Argentina, where liberal social values frequently clash with Roman Catholic doctrine related to issues such as birth control, abstinence before marriage and homosexuality; in 2003, Buenos Aries became the first city in South America to legalize gay civil unions.

Back in Britain, Michael Evans, an atheist and former journalist who downloaded the de-baptism certificate in March, believes the Church of England claims more members than it actually has in order to shore up its influence in the secular world. “It claims to speak for the majority of people in Britain,” he says. Official estimates are that fewer than one million Britons regularly attend Sunday services, but there are currently 26 Church of England bishops sitting in the House of Lords. “With churches, everybody checks in, but nobody checks out,” says Evans, who was baptized as an infant. “There’s no exit strategy except the funeral.”

That may be changing. On April 9, John Hunt, a 56-year-old nurse in Croydon, south London, managed to have his official baptism record amended. Religious leaders from the Southwark Diocese had previously refused to delete Hunt’s record of baptism, claiming it was an important historical detail. But after Hunt published a renouncement of his Christianity in the London Gazette, a journal of record dating back to the 17th century, those same religious leaders agreed to include it alongside his official baptism entry. “It’s about time some of us stood up to be counted,” Hunt said after receiving the news.

Nick Baines, the Bishop of Croydon, says such notation makes little difference. “Sticking John Hunt’s note in the register is not ‘de-anything,’” he wrote on his blog. “It is simply a note in a register that has no effect whatsoever other than to make him feel better that he has been heard.” And, officials at the Church of England say, allowing such notation is not the Church’s official policy because true renunciation can only take place between an individual and God.

Given that God takes on different forms for different people, the NSS has been approached by non-believers are far away as Australia, Romania and Saudi Arabia requesting certificates tailored to their former faith. “We’ve had Jewish people write in asking, ‘Can I have a certificate to undo my bar mitzvah?’” says Sanderson. And while the group is considering those requests, there’s at least one recurring query they’re certain they can’t undo, symbolically or otherwise: “How can I get myself uncircumcised?”

From http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1891230,00.html

But would this church volunteer be cool or pretty enough to sing worship on stage at Hill$ong?

In Uncategorized on April 18, 2009 at 11:01 am

Philip Powell chucks a mental at Hill$ong takeover of Garden City Church

In Uncategorized on April 16, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Former General Superintendent of the Australian Assemblies of God Philip Powell writes…

“·        HILLSONG SPREADS ITS TENTACLES TO BRISBANE

Late last year the incumbent senior pastor of the large AoG Garden City Christian Church in Brisbane, Bruce Hills unexpectedly resigned. Members and adherents were largely kept in the dark. Then on Sunday April 5th an announcement was made and recorded on video, which could be viewed at: – http://www.gardencity.org.au/  .

Guess what? Garden City Christian Church (GCCC) is to become a “clone” of Hillsong, Sydney. Brian and Bobby Houston are nominated as senior pastors to be voted on at a Special General Meeting of members on April 26. The interim “pastor” Steve Dixon and his wife Joyce are dubbed “campus pastors”. This is “franchising” gone mad in the name of “church planting”. Is this another ploy to increase Hillsong’s assets and financial clout which Brian learned from his late father Frank who back in the 1970s and 1980s devised a clever method to get along side bona fide Assemblies of God and eventually take over their assets for his then “Christian Life Centres”, later to become the “Hillsong” empire? Is it another question of “like father, like son”? The matter of concern is the question of “membership” at GCCC. All members presently have a vote, but who constitutes the “members” is the question? With Hillsong it’s a very few elite, about a dozen “legally constituted” members, who technically “own” everything though they boast thousands of “members”. When the chips are down those “thousands” are meaningless. An interesting blog has been set up at:

http://thethinkingtheologian.blogspot.com/2009/01/at-heart-of-hillsong-part-i.html  

 

AT THE HEART OF HILLSONG (Pt 1) is the first of a six part series written by a pentecostal person with whom we at CWM have no links and about whom I know nothing other than what’s on the above blog. The current “members” of GCCC would do well to take heed and challenge what is going at the Special Members’ Meeting called for April 26, 2009, after which it will be TOO LATE!!”

 

 

From Christian Witness Ministries’ latest email newsletter.

 

The more I encounter Pente’s, the less I understand them

In Uncategorized on April 16, 2009 at 1:35 pm

Lance writes…

I had a conversation with someone yesterday that kind-of summed-up the problem I have with the AOG-style of churches.

Before I start, I know I’ll get the ‘oh…church people aren’t perfect’ whine from the defenders of the indefensible, but I’ll plough on regardless.

I’m sitting in the front seat on a Transperth (public transport) bus, waiting at the traffic lights at the corner of Wellington and Barrack Streets in the centre of Perth.

The bus driver strikes up a conversation with me.

While we’re still waiting for the pedestrians to finish crossing the road (in Perth’s city centre, traffic in all directions stops for the pedestrians to cross) the bus driver, elbows resting on the steering wheel, thoughtfully muses about what’s in front of him, and then says “gee, there’s a lot of Asians”.

Later, the driver says he’s a Christian. With the earlier Asians comment, I thought, ‘got to be Pentecostal’. Don’t ask me why I thought that, Just call it a wild crazy hunch.

Yup. AOG. It turns out he actually rang his pastor the other day to say he’s ‘taking a break’ from church, and also that his son has cancer.

I asked what practical help the church was providing him in dealing with his son’s cancer battle.

He says the pastor was ‘praying for him’, but that was it.

Now, I’m not suggesting that all Pentecostals are racist but the difference between Pentecostalism and more normal church, is that from day one in normal churches you’re hit pretty well straight away with the concept of sin, and exhorted regularly to examine yourself to see if there are any sinful attitudes/actions in your life that need to be dealt with.

That doesn’t always work in the more normal churches of course, and I’m thinking mainly of the attitude of many so-called ’solid evangelicals’ towards women.

But in the normal churches; mainly Churches of Christ, Baptist, Uniting, Anglican, you tend not to get these extremes that you have in Pentecostalism, where someone is an ‘on-fire Christian’ one minute, and a prick the next.

Traditional church-people I tend to find are generally relaxed and gently cheerful people, but many Pentecostals, and particularly pastors, tend to turn the charm on and off like a tap.

Back to Pente weirdness, and I heard recently from a work colleague about a young lady who attends Revenue Church, being rather over-friendly with the boys and totally out of it at a social gathering while wearing a North Melbourne footy jumper………… and nothing else.

As well as bringing you out of your shell so you can live an ’awesome on-fire for God’ life, does being a Pente also bring out your inner-nutbag?

I think it was on the Sydney Anglicans website, there was a comment made about Hill$ong that it can be on-track one minute, and then preaching the most bizarre rubbish the next.

And what is it about a movement that says it’s about love and compassion, and then locks up young women in the harshest of circumstances (this side of Kerobokan Prison) in the name of ‘mercy’?

I don’t understand this Pente flip-flopping between the seemingly normal and the utterly bizarre and how it’s universally accepted as OK inside the Pente culture.

Is it too much to ask Pentecostals to be sensible most of the time? 

Does a stream need to be introduced at Hill$ong Conference on ‘how to be sensible’?

Is the problem with this blog that I’m assuming that Pente’s know how to be sensible in public?

(I was tired and bloody annoyed when I wrote this)

A little bit of Monica in my life, a little bit of Erica by my side, a little bit of Rita’s all I need….

In Uncategorized on April 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Pretoria News reports…

“In his first church campaign appearance after corruption charges against him were dropped last week, ANC leader Jacob Zuma has preached love, forgiveness and polygamy.

On his 67th birthday yesterday, Zuma was received with religious songs of praise, hallelujas and a massive birthday cake by the International Pentecostal Holiness Church congregation during its Sunday Easter service at its vast international headquarters.

The church comprises five plots of walled-in agricultural land in the dusty mining region of Westonaria, outside Joburg.

About 150 marriages, including various polygamous ones, were conducted as is traditionally done on religious holidays in this church.

White meringue-dressed brides and grooms, bearing large, white, lace-adorned leaves that they later used to fan them and their brides in the humid church, danced into the church in an almost two-hour-long procession on the beat of jazzy live gospel music.

Except for the marrying couples, the church separates men and women in its seating plans. The congregants wore blue and red uniforms with white pants and skirts.

After his scripted speech, Zuma told the congregation that other churches should learn from this church’s endorsement of polygamy, which they justify through a narrow interpretation of the Old Testament in the Bible.

Earlier in his speech, Zuma said democratic South Africa was built on reconciliation and forgiveness.

The ANC leader quoted from various Bible verses preaching love and forgiveness in an attempt to seek unity in the country.

It wasn’t clear whether he aimed the speech against those who allegedly meddled in his corruption case, which was the basis for the National Prosecuting Authority’s withdrawing of his charges last Monday, or against those in the ANC seeking revenge against those alleged meddlers. “Hate is an intense and all-consuming emotion. It takes over your whole being as you plot against your perceived enemy. On the other hand, love and forgiveness are liberating emotions,” he said.

The ANC earlier this week said it would support a commission of inquiry against those who allegedly interfered in his case, but later in the week the ANC Youth League indicated that it would seek to lobby the ANC against agreeing to such a commission.

Zuma told the 30000-strong congregation, as he had told the Rhema Church as well as Afrikaner religious groupings, that the ANC was built in the church and he wanted them to advise the government.

The church, which normally has its services on Saturdays, is based on the leanings of non-orthodox Judaism and charismatic Christianity and had female journalists scrambling to find hats or scarves to cover their heads, which is obligatory in the church.

Earlier reports said the opposition Cope party was expecting its leader, Mosioua Lekota, to be at the church before Zuma, but church authorities said they did not invite him.

Journalists were forbidden from interviewing church-goers, who “might say something that is not in line with church policy”, such as give negative views on Zuma, one of the church’s media assistants said.

After leaving the church more than an hour after the scheduled time, Zuma went on to visit a Muslim fete in Mayfair, Joburg, where he quoted verses from the Quran in his speech.”

From http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=6&art_id=vn20090413072134450C908465

Pay for pray

In Uncategorized on April 14, 2009 at 12:32 pm

News 24 reports…

“Instead of being healed through prayer, Bennie de Lange and his wife Pikkie have returned disillusioned from the Christ Embassy Healing School in Randburg.

“We saw desperate people broken by empty promises of healing,” say the Vaalharts couple.

That’s after reports that the school, where pastors seemingly are refusing to pray for the ill and handicapped, are exploiting people.

The De Langes were there from March 20 to April 6.

Bennie’s left arm and leg are paralysed after an operation to remove a growth from his brain stem.

“We saw on Loveworld (Christ Embassy’s TV network) on DStv how people were cured at the Healing School,” said Pikkie.

The couple decided to go and forked out R6 000 to stay in a guest house near the church.

Their “classes” began at 08:00 and sometimes didn’t finish before 22:00. DVDs of pastor Chris Oyakhilome’s sermons about healing were shown repeatedly. Oyakhilome is the founder of the Christ Embassy.

“People weren’t allowed to ask church officials anything,” said Pikkie.

“During our first Sunday service, we saw people get up out of their wheelchairs – seemingly cured – after pastor Chris prayed for them. He said 600 people had been cured.”

But now the De Langes aren’t so sure.

They say they were told to decide what Bennie’s health was worth. The money was to go to Christ Embassy.

“But I know you don’t pay for God to cure you, and gave nothing,” said Bennie.

The pastor never prayed for him.

“We believe God gave pastor Oyakhilome the gift of healing. We could feel it. But the church is being managed in the wrong way,” Pikkie said.”

From http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2500252,00.html

Turn to the person next to you and say ‘Pastor Israel Campbell is a wanker’ and then give yourself a hug

In Uncategorized on April 14, 2009 at 1:17 am

A frivolous theology attracts frivolous people

In Uncategorized on April 13, 2009 at 7:43 pm

The Times Record News reports…

“God loves you, but he doesn’t necessarily have a wonderful plan for your life, say local pastors.

The decades that have produced easy money, easy home loans and easy divorce have also produced a plan of easy salvation that promises Jesus as an “easy button” to solve any problem you have.

But that’s an Easter message that Wichita Falls pastors who agreed to talk to the Times Record News said they steer away from in their churches.

The “easy-button” Jesus who will quickly and neatly solve any problem you face isn’t biblical, but its health-and-wealth flavor has been consistent with the times, said Dr. David Hartman, pastor of First Christian Church.

“Everything was easy. Easy credit, easy divorce, easy medication. Easy everything. It justified the self-indulgence,” he said. “We had theology that accommodated that, which basically said, ‘You’re just fine the way you are. Do this easy thing.’ It was like liposuction for the soul.”

A growing seriousness among Americans may be changing that, he said. “My gosh, we’re involved in two wars, the economy has gone off a cliff, we’re indebting our children for generations to come. A frivolous theology attracts frivolous people. The truth of the gospel will attract serious folks. They won’t cut and run when times get hard.”

Embracing the Easter message starts with embracing some pain, not gain, said Jerry Royal, executive pastor and minister to families at First Baptist Church. “You can’t get saved until you realize you’re lost,” he said.

Any gospel pitch that says God has a wonderful plan for your life isn’t biblical if it defines the “wonderful life” as anything other than forgiveness of sin and a spot in heaven. “He can offer you forgiveness and redemption and a new life in him that may or may not be good,” Royal said. “The abundant life in John 10:10 was really speaking about eternity.”

Jesus promised that life on Earth would bring problems and persecution — as it did for Jesus, his disciples, Paul and others in the Bible, he said.

“Faith says, ‘I trust you with my tragedies, that somehow you will work it out on the other side of Glory,’ not, ‘I trust you to make me a millionaire,’ ” Royal said.

Jesus, who said “I will never leave you,” promises a believer himself, he said.

John the Baptist “didn’t have his health and wealth thing going on when he was in prison,” said Chris Ollila, pastor of North Texas Bible Church. “As far as pushing a button and Jesus has a prosperity package for you — this just violates what we see in Scripture. The greatest part of the gospel is getting a free ticket out of hell.”

Once a person embraces Christ for salvation, he needs to move on to study the Scriptures “and continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord,” Ollila said. “That’s where you get your answers to life’s problems.”

One of God’s blessings is adversity, which strengthens Christians’ faith, Ollila said.

No special promises of any kind work with today’s youth, said Jason Archer, Young Life area director. Relationship building that’s steady and genuine is the only thing that overrides the skepticism, cynicism and distrust in teenagers, he said.

Gone are the days of conducting large rallies to reach teenagers. “Where we live in the Bible belt, they know the story. They know the answers. We’re moving toward relationship ministry. I love it when I see other youth ministers in town who are going out to the high school and having lunch with the kids. I love it because I know the kids are loving it.”

Archer said he sees how a “Jesus button” philosophy can evolve. “We want to say, ‘Your life would be so much better if you’d walk close to God.’ We know the benefits. But it comes out in a confusing way.”

From http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2009/apr/12/rocky-road-local-pastors-say-theres-no-easy-path/

Popcorn Pente’s push prosperity

In Uncategorized on April 12, 2009 at 2:10 pm

The Telegraph reports…

A disused cinema in north-east London has emerged as the home of one of Britain’s richest religious institutions.

The building is now used by a Pentecostal church that made a profit of £4.9 million in the last 18 months, according to company accounts.

The accounts also show that the Kingsway International Christian Centre (KICC) in Walthamstow, London, has assets of £22.9 million, which is more than three times the amount held by the foundation that maintains St Paul’s Cathedral in central London.

Much of the church’s wealth has come from donations made by its 8,000-strong congregation, which is predominantly African and Caribbean in its ethnic make-up.

While an average Church of England congregation donates £33,000 in the 18 months to April 2008, the Pentecostal church’s members have given £9.5 million in tithes and offerings during the same period.

The KICC is led by Matthew Ashimolowo, a Nigerian pastor, who earns more than £100,000 a year.

The Archbishop of Canterbury earns only £68,740 a year, yet he has overall responsibility for a congregation of nearly a million people.

Mr Ashimolowo, who preaches that God wants people to be rich, has written a preface to the accounts in which he praises the commitment of the congregation.

“The last 18 months have been a period of incredible journey in the life of the KICC,” he wrote.

“It has been very exciting to see God move the ministry from one level to another as we witness the increased manifestation of His glory.”

Evangelical Pentecostalism is believed to be the only growing branch of Christianity within the UK with an estimated 300,000 weekly worshippers.

The latest accounts of the KICC testify to the growing power – and riches – of the movement.

Four KICC directors also earn more than £60,000 a year, in contrast to a typical Church of England vicar who earns a salary of around £21,500.

On Easter Sunday, the KICC is staging five services over 12 hours and expects to attract 5,000 worshippers.”

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5139632/Disused-cinema-is-home-to-one-of-Britains-richest-religious-institutions.html

The Telegraph earlier reported in 2005…

One of Britain’s biggest churches, which lists among its aims “the relief of poverty”, paid its pastor hundreds of thousands of pounds and provided him with free accommodation and a car while it had millions in the bank.

The Charity Commission found evidence of “serious” financial misconduct at the Kingsway International Christian Centre, in Hackney, east London.

A report concluded that leaders of the independent church, who encourage worshippers to donate a tenth of their salaries, had mismanaged its £8.5 million income.

On one occasion, £120,000 was spent celebrating the birthday of the senior pastor, Matthew Ashimolowo, of which £80,000 was used to buy a Mercedes. He bought a timeshare apartment in Florida for £13,000.

The church, which was founded by Mr Ashimolowo 19 years ago, attracts up to 10,000 mainly Afro-Caribbean worshippers a week to services in a converted warehouse near Hackney Marshes. The centre claims to be the fastest-growing church in Europe, with a total membership of 12,000.

Worshippers are encouraged to pray for wealth, and the charismatic Mr Ashimolowo, a Nigerian-born convert from Islam, often preaches a “prosperity gospel”. Among his recorded sermons are “Sweatless wealth” and “101 answers to money problems”.

The King’s Ministry Trust, as it was then called, came under scrutiny from the charity watchdog in 2002 after a visit to its offices triggered concerns about its management and the benefits received by its trustees, including Mr Ashimolowo and his wife Yemesi.

The commission report said that the pastor and the trustees had been made aware that they were not entitled to receive benefits or remuneration from the church’s income.

But Mr Ashimolowo and his wife received £384,601 between October 1992 and September 2000, £338,334 of which was paid into one of his private companies, for “pastoral services”.

The report said that Mr Ashimolowo, his wife and two children were given free housing by the church, in addition to payments totalling £141,415 that came from the congregation.

The centre was taken over by the receivers in 2002, and new trustees and managers appointed.

The receivers withdrew in April when the commission was satisfied the church was being run in line with its guidelines. Mr Ashimolowo has been ordered to repay £200,000 into the charity.

The church said last night that it remained committed to its “vision of growth and expansion”.

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1500074/Wealth-church-leader-practised-what-he-preached.html

Safran ‘crucified’

In Uncategorized on April 10, 2009 at 9:26 pm

news.com.au reports…

“Radio and television comic John Safran has had himself crucified in the Philippines in  the gory annual Good Friday rituals imitating the suffering and death of Jesus Christ.

Safran who identified himself as “John Michael”, 33, from Melbourne, to reporters joined three local men and one woman in being nailed to a wooden cross in Kapitangan town, just outside Manila. Another 25 men were crucified in Cutud town, north of the capital.

Photographs clearly identify the man as TV personality John Safran, who co-hosts a weekly comedy talk show Sunday Night Safran on ABC Radio’s Triple J youth network with Catholic priest Bob Maguire.

He has a history of going to extremes in TV documentaries and an interest in obscure religious practices.

The crucifixions, although not formally endorsed by the Roman Catholic church, are carried out as part of religious vows in return for favours granted or in penance for sins.nsored feature:

Safran, who was half-naked and wearing a long-haired wig with an improvised crown of thorns, joined the Filipinos in a procession carrying a huge wooden cross to a crucifixion site, flanked by men in Roman centurion costumes.

He could be heard moaning loudly as the nails were driven into his palms and as his cross was hoisted up, allowing him to hang for about five minutes.

When he was taken down, the centurions rushed him to a medical tent for treatment.

Safran would not say why he had joined the ceremony but an Australian companion merely said “this is a personal thing for him”.

News.com.au is making further enquiries.

In Cutud, where such crucifixions are a 54-year-old tradition, 25 people were crucified in three districts as thousands of foreign and local tourists flocked to the scene.

Many of these “Kristos” – as the crucified men are called – have gone through this ordeal a number of times. The leader of the main body of Kristos, 48-year old Ruben Enaje, endured his 23rd crucifixion.

Enaje, a carpenter, vowed to undergo the ritual after he escaped unscathed when falling from a three-storey building.

Accompanying the Kristos are hundreds of “flaggelants”, or “penitentes” – hooded men who whip their own bloody backs with whips of bamboo and rope, as penance for sins.

Domingo Cunnanan, 38, said he had been a “penitente” for 16 years, but had graduated to being one of the Kristos since 2007.

“I wanted to be crucified because I believe this is will keep my family safe, with the help of God,” Cunnanan said.

“The pain of penitence is nothing compared with a year of grace given to my family by God,” he said.

“I think it’s crazy,” said British tourist Mirjam Leenhouts. “Why would you want to hurt yourself?”

“That’s some kind of extreme devotion,” she remarked, as she witnessed the Kristos at Cutud being crucified three at a time.

After crucifixion, each Kristo is taken to a medical tent to have his wounds bandaged while another takes his place on the cross.

“We have precautionary measures such as giving out medicines, sterilising of the nails for the crucifixion, and have first aid kits prepared just in case,” said George Dayrit, a medical team member.

Critics say the event has become commercialised and is used for money-making rather than an expression of faith.

Town councillor Jimmy Lazatin, an organiser of the event, said that the crucifixions were a way of attracting tourists who bought hats, sunglasses, soft drinks, snacks and shirts from vendors who converged at the site.

Not all townsfolk were involved and many could be seen drinking and gambling while their neighbours marched in the hot sun, flogging their backs crimson.

Francis Santos, a relative of one of the flaggelants, remarked “they are just selling the ‘penitentes’ but people still believe in God and that is why they are undergoing this sacrifice”.

From http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25318274-401,00.html

Dudded church member felt ‘compelled’ to lend to Pastor Duker

In Uncategorized on April 9, 2009 at 1:12 pm

The Gold Coast Bulletin reports…

A million-dollar property holding owned by former Mermaid Beach Pentecostal pastor-cum-failed businessman Glenn Duker has sold as liquidators move to pay back a $40 million debt.

Mr Duker, believed to be in Melbourne, filed for bankruptcy in January after the collapse of his company RVP Group Limited.

The company, which was tied up in buying and selling property on the Gold Coast, was placed into liquidation last year.

Many of Mr Duker’s creditors are believed to be involved with a revivalist sect, including fellow pastors.

It is unknown what price the properties — one at Ashmore and the other at Benowa — fetched when they went to auction in late February.

Mr Duker paid a total of $1.2 million for them in December, six months after the liquidation of RVP.

Creditor and former church member Sue Williams, who is owed hundreds of thousands of dollars, said she was shunned from the congregation for talking about Mr Duker, their pastor at the time.

She said she was grateful to be out of the church that failed to stand by her.

According to a liquidator’s report released last week by Bruce Gleeson, of Jones Partners Chartered Accountants, there may be grounds for more serious legal action against Mr Duker, his wife Lorilea and his former company auditor Allan Walker.

Mr Gleeson had to force information out of the Dukers via public examinations in the NSW Supreme Court in November last year.

Mrs Williams said her family moved to the Coast after her husband Craig began work for Mr Duker’s company.

She said they felt compelled to lend him money when he asked because he was their pastor and Mr Williams’ employer.

“He had a few properties he was going to refinance and he asked to put them into our name for a short period of time.”

She said they asked for 100 per cent indemnities on the mortgages.

“Well, of course, we got caught out … luckily, we have been able to get a lot of those properties out of those names.”

Mr Duker is not speaking publicly.

He was unable to be contacted by The Bulletin.”

From http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/04/05/66371_gold-coast-news.html

Prayers for Bobby

In Uncategorized on April 8, 2009 at 10:09 am

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Easter worship colours?

In Uncategorized on April 8, 2009 at 9:53 am

Lance writes…

Yes, I know I’m still naive about a lot of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes in ‘contemporary’ churches, but I’m less naive than I was before.

But ‘worship colours’?

This is the first direct evidence I’ve found that the Church Fashion Police exists.

In previous discussions, I’ve been made aware of worship team members being urged to ’shed a few kilos’ but I didn’t know that what colour team members wore was something enforceable, except maybe if there was a choir uniform.

“Hello Team! This Sunday January 18th Team 3 is on deck and the colors are Black/White/Grey.”

“Team 2 is up this week and don’t forget to be there at 7:00am! The colors are neutral, brown, and khaki.”

“Team 1 is up and our colors are Neutral/Tan/Khaki”

“Team the choir is on this week so please make every effort to be at the church on time at 7am. the colors are Black, white, and/or blue.”

“Easter Sunday is this Sunday, and Ty and Glen have asked all of the worship team/choir to be available to sing…….

……….The colors will be pastel/easter colors (light blues, pinks, yellows, greens) with khakis or neutrals.” 
http://citychurchworship.org/blog/index.php?blog=1&title=east_sunday_apr_12_2009&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

WTF are Easter colours?

‘When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others They were all wearing light blues, pinks, yellows, greens with khakis or neutrals.’

Aahh, I see. Well, if it’s in their imaginary version of the bible, that’s OK then.

Does leading worship make people strange, or are strange people preferred by churches as worship leaders?

Garden City Church’s new senior pastor delves into the complex pastoral issues facing Brisbane and her new congregation

In Uncategorized on April 7, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Bobbie Houston twitters…

There’s a beautiful rainbow over the Brisbane river. ITS A SIGN!! He he!!! (Ok its also been raining but gotta love GODS RAINBOW OF COLOURS)…..

Not often I’m awake while hubbie still sleeps. Yikes, perhaps I should do the GJs run! (In Brissie, wonder where it is??) “

From http://twitter.com/bobbiehouston

Hill$ong swallows Brisbane’s Garden City Church whole – scchhhhllooooooop!

In Uncategorized on April 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Lance writes…

The Hill$ong empire continues to expand (which will just make it a bigger crash when the empire inevitably falls)

On Sunday, the church announced that its new senior pastors, replacing Bruce Hills, would be Brian and Bobbie Houston with Steve and Joyce Dixon to be Garden City Church’s local ‘campus pastors’.

The name ‘Garden City’ will go, with the church to be re-branded as Hill$ong Brisbane.

The video of the announcement is here

Brian Houston confirmed the announcement on his Twitter feed

Well its official. Garden City CChurch in Brisbane is to become a campus of Hillsong Churchwith..

..Steve and Joyce Dixon as campus pastors. We are excited to serve Brisbane with many other great churches. TBC April 26th.”

http://twitter.com/BrianCHouston

That’s when an extra-ordinary general meeting of Garden City members is to be held to rubber-stamp what’s been hatched in the back-rooms.

That will of course be the last time they vote for a senior pastor, after coming under the Hill$ong do-what-you’re-told-don’t-question-leadership umbrella.

Garden City folks, if you want to stand up to Brian’s bullying, do it now because you’ll be right under the Sydney thumb from April 27.

P.S. I expect Phillip Powell to chuck a mental about this.

Worst sermon ever heard at Perth’s Metro Church

In Uncategorized on April 5, 2009 at 11:21 am

Elisa blogs…

“Disclaimer: Different churches suit different people at different times. Today I share our impressions based solely on where we are right now in our walk with God and as parents of two small children.

The next week, we did our research prior to heading out, and made tracks for Metro Church. All four of us worshiped in the main sanctuary, but Nikki was restive as the sermon was about to start, so she and Baba went down to the age 1-3 Children’s Church. K-Bear and I stayed on through the rest of the service. I was totally shocked by the content. The sermon was rambling – the pastor had about 14 points, and I just couldn’t get my head around what was tying them together. What became abundantly clear, however, was that the pastor really wanted us to buy stuff. Buy the CD of the sermon he was preaching. Buy all the CDs of that series and he’d give you a discount of such-and-such amount. Buy the jazz CD the church just produced. Buy 10 to give to all your friends and family for such-and-such discount. They had already sold x amount, so this is your chance, etc, etc. Truly ranking among the worst sermons I’ve ever sat through. Possibly the very worst. When it was finally over, I caught up with Nikki and Baba. Although they had a ratio, including Baba, of 1 childcare worker for every child (7 of each), the program heavily featured Thomas the Tank Engine and Wiggles videos. You would think with that many child care workers, they could have done something slightly more interactive and creative. Or possibly even God-centered?! Needless to say, we aren’t going back there. Except possibly to pick up another jazz CD. It’s actually quite good!”

From http://blissfule.me/index.php/2009/01/church-hunt-metro-church/

WA winds the clocks back one century

In Uncategorized on April 5, 2009 at 11:16 am

The Australian reports…

“Six months after being elected, a god-squad of devout Liberals preaching morality and Christian values in a parliament better known for misconduct and lewd behaviour is shaping as a new force in West Australian politics.

While their views are not unique – other state politicians such as Liberal David Clarke, Christian Democrats Fred Nile and Gordon Moyes in NSW, and Family First’s Robert Brokenshire and Dennis Hood in South Australia, have pushed similar themes for years – the new MPs in Western Australia potentially pack a bigger punch.

They’re in government, not Opposition, and they have the numbers.

The group is being closely watched after putting Premier Colin Barnett on notice that integrity and moral certainties would guide their votes.

Chief among the Bible-belters, Peter Abetz, an ordained minister of the Christian Reformed Church and the brother of right-wing Liberal senator Eric Abetz, makes no bones about his intention to put his Christian values first, even if it means breaking ranks. Outspoken against abortion, euthanasia and legalised prostitution, which he says legitimises the sexual abuse of women, he claims WA has been under attack from politicians reshaping it in ways that harm the most vulnerable.

“I think, broadly speaking, people regard politicians as pretty low on the integrity scale. I can only chip away trying to reform it,” Abetz tells Inquirer. “If there was some element that I thought was unconscionable, then I would say to Colin Barnett: ‘I’m either going to have to cross the floor or I’m going to wag parliament that day.”‘

Barnett – a centrist Liberal – knows there is little room for MPs to flex their muscles without sparking problems in his precarious alliance government, which is made up of 29 lower-house Liberal, National and independent MPs, against 28 Labor and two other independents following last year’s election in which the Labor government was defeated.

With issues such as prostitution, drug laws and mandatory jail terms high on the legislative agenda, the balancing act will be acute.

When it comes to MPs crossing the floor, though, Labor and most Liberals would obviously out-vote the conservative dissidents, if that’s the way Barnett wanted to play it andrisk a revenge revolt on matters unrelated to morals.

Abetz and former pastor Ian Britza are at the core of the new religious Right. They nailed their colours to the wall in their inaugural parliamentary speeches in November when Abetz promised to promote and uphold moral laws first and Britza warned of moral decline and linked his victory to divine providence. They are not alone. Other new MPs preach similar themes, just without the religious careers.

Former tax accountant Tony Krsticevic used his first speech to thank God for being with him every step of the way in his election, as he warned against a society gone wrong. Church volunteer Albert Jacob, the state’s youngest MP at 29, urged integrity and family values as he thanked God for the “divine opportunity” to serve.

Britza says virtually all of the 13 new lower-house Liberals elected last year hold similar views, with and without religious links: “We do have a powerful bloc. We meet pretty regularly; we have our little debates among us so that when the time comes we are a unified bloc or we know where we are at.

“If something was thrown at us that was unconscionable, I’d have no hesitation in either abstaining or just walking out of the house. I’d have no hesitation in doing that at all and I wouldn’t want the Government to pressure us on it either.”

Jim Wallace, of the Australian Christian Lobby, says the “resurgence in Christian values” in WA was inevitable after the moral slide, misbehaviour and “unchristian legislation”, such as permitting gay adoption, that surfaced in recent years.

“There is a wave under way,” he says. “It started with Western Australia and then continued in the ACT election last year.”

State Liberal Party president Barry Court adds another tier in the west. Deeply involved in the charismatic [Victory Life] church run by his wife and former tennis great Margaret Court, he has long called for a greater focus on conservative morality in politics. Together, the new Liberals have the potential to force a seismic shift as they rail against poor standards and weak laws.

Abetz says he shuddered at the Corruption and Crime Commission revelations about the misconduct of MPs dealing with former premier and lobbyist Brian Burke.

He also describes the chair-sniffing antics of his Liberal colleague, now state Treasurer, Troy Buswell as “a joke”, but adds that Buswell should be commended for since reforming himself.

As WA wallowed in tarnish from sackings, infighting and crude behaviour last year in both of the main parties, former Labor premier Alan Carpenter labelled it a national laughing-stock. Abetz agrees and says his growing concern prompted him to enter politics.

“I really enjoyed being a pastor, it was my life’s calling, and I wasn’t looking for a career change at all,” he says. “It was more out of a sense of frustration at seeing the lack of the right emphasis in government in terms of where our society was going.”

He says the misbehaviour was incredible. “I just thought: ‘Oh, come on!’ I don’t think people expect their politicians to be perfect or anything, but when you’re at that level of leadership in society people do want to be able to look up to you.

“I’ve said to my colleagues that at the age of 56 getting into parliament, I’m not ambitious for climbing to the top of the political ladder. As far as I’m concerned honesty and integrity are the No.1 thing.

“I agree in politics you’ve got to be a team player … but in terms of moral issues or if anyone’s done the wrong thing in parliament, or my colleagues, I’ve said: ‘Don’t expect me to cover your backside.”‘

Britza, the son of Baptist ministers who were missionaries in Africa, says the prostitution laws being drafted will test the Government’s mettle. He believes many prostitutes don’t want to be sex workers. The Perth-born former pastor with Faith Ministries spent his early childhood in Africa, returning to Perth speaking Chinyanja, a Zulu tongue, but little English. He has strong views on abortion, families, treatment of the elderly and declining social standards. He worries politicians have lost their way.

“Very soon, as far as morals and ethics are concerned, two plus two will definitely add up to five at the rate we are going,” he told parliament in his first speech.

On abortion he is blunt: “Just because something is legal does not make it right. When a woman who is pro-choice wants a child, she calls it a baby, and when she does not want it she calls it a foetus.” But he is appalled also at the plight of the aged. “In many cultures the elderly are held in high respect. It is to our shame that we do not follow the same example. When listening to bills being presented in this chamber, I will be constantly asking myself whether they are right or wrong. I will make decisions based on moral absolutes.”

Jacob is less outspoken. His Christian ethic was shaped by years as a volunteer at his local church rather than decades as a pastor. He says the views of his electorate come before his personal beliefs, but in parliament his message has been blunter: “As a member of this parliament, I will endeavour to remain true to my core values and make my decisions because I believe them to be right, whether or not they are popular.”

Barnett has responded to the potential for division by asking his MPs to raise their concerns in the partyroom first so they can try to reach a compromise. Abetz, Britza and other MPs praise him for confronting the issue and say they don’t want to cause strife.

But they’re also smarting from a bruising first encounter last year when the MPs were sidelined by their own party as parent surrogacy laws were rushed through parliament.

“They let us know in no uncertain terms that ‘this is going through no matter how you feel’. And boy, being stomped on was a bit of an eye-opener,” Britza says.

Abetz says the new MPs were too green about procedures at the time to be able to fight back. But he says it will not happen again. Beyond that, he says he will pray that as a politician he will live up to the exhortations of the 2000-year-old prophet Micah: “To act justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”

Former Labor attorney-general Jim McGinty, who oversaw many of the state’s big social reforms such as equality for homosexuals, legal protection for de facto marriages, gay adoption and drug laws that stop minor users getting criminal records, says the notional shift to the Right in parliament is disturbing.

“Western Australia in the 1990s was a social backwater; we were the most homophobic state in Australia,” he says. “All that radically changed when the Gallop government came to power and we now run the risk of becoming ultra-conservative again.

“Unfortunately, we’ve seen the end of progressive, contemporary legislation in Western Australia. The extreme religious Right in the Liberal Party will ensure there is nothing more until the Government changes.”

Another senior Labor MP, former education minister Mark McGowan, says Barnett is already transforming from someone who was regarded in the ’90s as a moderate to taking a harder morals line. “He once cautioned against being too hard-line and moralistic on drugs because he was concerned about the health issues (for users); now he’s planning hardline laws,” McGowan says. “He used to show respect for Aboriginal native title; now he’s moving to override land rights (by the compulsory acquisition of land for development). Barnett hated being in Opposition and he’s changed his views as a consequence.”

From http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25284836-5013871,00.html

Has anyone at all been watching over Pastor Glenn Duker?

In Uncategorized on April 4, 2009 at 11:14 pm

The Brisbane Times reports…

“The corporate regulator failed for two years to act against a company run by fundamentalist church pastor Glenn Duker, before the firm went into liquidation last year owing creditors up to $10 million.

As the inaction went on, the churchman racked up millions more in debts before he finally went bankrupt, owing another $34.5 million to 63 different creditors.

The liquidator of Mr Duker’s company, RVP Group, revealed last week that the Australian Securities and Investments Commission had first investigated Mr Duker, and his company’s auditor, Melbourne-based Allan Walker, as early as 2006.

The commission concluded it was likely the company was trading while insolvent but, even so, it took no action against Mr Duker or the company — a decision that creditors’ representatives claim opened their clients up to millions of dollars in further losses.

The liquidator’s lawyer, Michael Hayter, said the securities commission had sought undertakings from Mr Duker, “but when they were not forthcoming, I thought they should have taken action”.

An ASIC spokeswoman said she could not comment on anything regarding RVP Group due to a suppression order issued as part of ongoing legal action.

A number of people face financial ruin as a result of their dealings with Mr Duker, who is accused by creditors of using his former position as a pastor at Melbourne Pentecostal church Revival Centres International to persuade them he could be trusted.

The liquidator and the bankruptcy trustees reported to creditors last week, and both asked creditors for funds to continue their investigations into Mr Duker’s six-year credit binge.

Bankruptcy trustee Dennis Turner’s report said Mr Duker had incurred the debts by transferring funds between a large number of trading entities “to meet cash flow requirements” by “borrowing against property that was already fully encumbered”, and by providing personal guarantees “when he should have known” he could not meet them.

Mr Duker claimed that problems emerged because of a fall in property prices.

The liquidator of RVP Group, Bruce Gleeson, said Mr Duker’s company had operated “much like a ‘Ponzi’ scheme”, in which money from new investors is used to pay off old ones.

Mr Gleeson signalled he would pursue civil action through the courts against Mr Duker, his wife Lorilea, and brother Matthew, who were all company directors, if he could find the money to fund legal action. It is believed he is also considering recommending criminal action.

Matthew Duker continues in his role as a church pastor at RCI, even though Glenn Duker was stood down when trouble surfaced in 2005. The church stands by both men, and Mrs Duker. It has forced some of the creditors out of the flock.

The liquidator also intends to pursue the company’s auditor, Mr Walker.

Mr Gleeson found that Mr Walker was a family friend of the directors, acted as the company’s de facto accountant, and signed off annual accounts that said the company was in good shape, even though it was trading while insolvent for two years.

Chartered accountant Scott Bennison, who represents a number of creditors, but who is also a member of the Dukers’ church, said that because of Mr Walker’s auditing, people were “misled into investing in a company they thought was solvent, when it was trading insolvent from day one”.

From http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/watchdogs-inaction-cost-creditors-millions-20090404-9sjz.html

And the Gold Coast Bulletin reports…

“Those left high and dry say that because Mr Duker was at once their pastor as well as their partner and their lawyer, he was in a powerful position and they trusted him.

Gold Coast builder Craig O’Brien says he rues the day he met the smooth-talking pastor.

“He was so believable. He told me he wanted to buy the house I was selling for $1.35 million, and that he would give me 75 per cent up front and pay me 25 per cent interest on the remainder for the 12 months it would take to pay off the rest,” he told The Bulletin.

“I wasn’t stupid, I did the right thing and went to a lawyer, had the papers drawn up to protect myself — or so I thought — in case he went bankrupt.

“I understand he took out a mortgage on the house but never paid the bank anything. The next thing I know the bank sold the house and Duker was gone and I was left holding the bag for the remaining 25 per cent of the purchase price.

“My only option now is to sue my lawyer — and that won’t be easy.”

Hundreds of people on the Gold Coast, in Melbourne and as far away as Western Australia, allegedly entered into similar deals.

Many of Mr Duker’s complex web of companies — estimated to number between 30 and 80 — are now either in the process of being struck off or under administration.

At present the ex-pastor — he was sacked from his Gold Coast position, but is still a member of the church — is believed to be holed up in Melbourne, protected by church members who refuse to reveal his whereabouts or his telephone numbers.

Mr Hayter said that as late as last December Duker had told him he was earning up to $3000 a week from a Gold Coast law firm he still owned.”

From http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/03/30/64211_gold-coast-news.html

Is there now any doubt that churches sucking up to political leaders will have it come back to bite the church on the arse?

In Uncategorized on April 4, 2009 at 10:08 am

The Weekend Post reports…

“United Democratic Movement leader Bantu Holomisa has slammed the Rhema Church over its refusal to allow him to address its congregation as ANC president Jacob Zuma was allowed to do.

In a letter to the church released yesterday, Holomisa said Zuma‘s address had been “a campaign event. It is how your congregation understood it, it is how Zuma understood it, and it is how it was reported by the media”.

Holomisa said he was surprised his request for a similar opportunity was characterised as “imposing on you”, adding this “begs a question about the integrity of church leaders who decide for their congregations which political parties they should support or be exposed to”.

The UDM leader asked: “How will you explain the perception that you are trying to ingratiate yourself with those in power?”

Holomisa rejected an invitation to attend a service and have his presence “announced”.

From http://www.weekendpost.co.za/article.aspx?id=406097

GPS – Global Pentecostal Silliness

In Uncategorized on April 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm

Religion Dispatches reports…

In May 2008, Bruce Wilson, co-founder of the blog Talk2Action, made a short video featuring a recording of Pastor John Hagee preaching about how God had sent Hitler to hunt the Jews and force them to Israel. The video went viral and McCain was forced to disassociate himself and repudiate Hagee’s endorsement. Hagee slunk off the national stage.

Flash forward to September of last year. McCain (now the GOP’s presidential candidate) chooses a relatively obscure political figure, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, as his running mate. When a CNN reporter asked a GOP campaign spokesperson about Palin’s religious beliefs, she would only say that “the Republican vice presidential candidate has ‘deep religious convictions.’”

Wilson began looking into Palin’s religious background. What he found was far more interesting than the fairly run-of-the-mill Christian Zionism of someone like Hagee.

Bruce, can you explain what you found when you started looking into Sarah Palin’s religious background and affiliations?

Bruce Wilson: Sarah Palin is, broadly speaking, in the emerging postdenominational movement, which by 2000 encompassed 385 million Christians and is vastly different from the faith as it has been practiced in recent centuries. We identified Palin as in a majority tendency of postdenominationalism known as the neocharismatic movement, or the “Third Wave.”

Evangelical missionary reference work World Christian Trends calls the Third Wave “a new and disturbingly different” kind of Christianity whose members “can accurately be called radical Christians with some pentecostal /charismatic parallels” and which has, as one of the distinctive characteristics of Third Wave Christian ministry, a heavy emphasis on healing miracles including raising the dead—an emphasis promoted from the pulpit in sermons at Palin’s most central church, the Wasilla Assembly of God.

We also found extensive evidence that Palin is in a religious movement founded in 2001 that has coalesced out of Third Wave Christianity; the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

The NAR is bent on radically reinventing Christianity, and is fast becoming the vanguard of the global Christian Right. Its leaders have openly declared that their aim of achieving worldwide biblical government and a utopian age in which evil—as an ontological category—has been banished by purging demon spirits and unbelievers from the earth.

Palin is directly, personally linked to not one but two major NAR leaders, Windwalkers Ministry International founder Mary Glazier and Thomas Muthee—who have both publicly described battling alleged witches with prayer-warfare. Through Glazier, Palin appears to be under the authority of the man who founded the NAR and has announced the advent of a second Reformation, C. Peter Wagner.

Charismatic manifestations as extreme as raising the dead aren’t what is problematic about Palin’s religious tendencies; Third Wave and NAR theology is militantly anti-pluralistic and anti-democratic, the quintessence of Christian religious supremacy.

While our work recognized the need for a basic reassessment of the impact the charismatic movement has had on Christianity and, increasingly, on American religion and politics, it also highlighted the mainstream media’s failure to inform American voters about Palin, who might now have been just a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Why do you think your revelations about Palin didn’t catch on with the mainstream media?

I’ve been pondering that question for several months, and I’ve come up with two related levels of explanation. 

The first is simply that what our stories described sounded outlandish—millions of Christians worldwide are trying to bring about an earthly utopia by driving out demons alleged to infest cities and towns, inanimate objects (cars, alarm clocks, rosary beads, big rocks, toothbrushes whatever), as well as entire ethnic groups. It sounds, until one gets used to the proposition that demons are omnipresent in day-to-day life, absurd.

The obvious question in many of our readers’ minds was I’m sure: Why haven’t I heard of this before?

The implication seemed to be that much of the journalism on religion and politics to come out over the last decade has missed massive, global changes in Christianity that carry profound political implications. Historian Philip Jenkins wrote about the enormity of those changes, which he likened to a second Reformation, in a 2002 article in the Atlantic Monthly entitled “The Next Christianity.”

There’s actually quite a significant body of scholarship on the rise of Third Wave Christianity and even on the New Apostolic Reformation. But to find it one has to be aware those movements exist. The few mainstream journalists who interviewed us, leading up to November 4, were far less skeptical after we sent them some reference material to let them know we weren’t writing creative fiction.

Three points of reference we used were Alix Spiegel’s 1997 This American Life radio story, “Pray” (about the strange goings on at Ted Haggard’s New Life Church); Jane Lampman’s two September 1999 Christian Science Monitor stories on The World Prayer Center and the ‘spiritual mapping’ movement; and René Holvast’s 2005 dissertation for the University of Utrecht, “Spiritual Mapping: The Turbulent Career of a Contested American Paradigm,” which has been reworked into a book published last November.

So, our stories connected Palin to a religious movement that relatively few Americans know even exists, which looks acts and holds theological beliefs—even a basic outlook on life—that is very different from what secular and liberal America might think or envision as coming from the ‘religious right.’ And the religious ideas powering the movement are very strange, novel that is, compared to Christian theology of the past several hundred years.

The challenge: How do authors, amidst the tumult of a presidential election, establish an audience for explaining a new school of thought that cuts radically against the grain of orthodox thought?

Had we been able to plausibly link her to any of a number of cults or minor religions that people had at least heard of before, our work might actually have stuck in people’s minds. So there weren’t any cognitive reference points. Memory is relational—new information that fits preexisting patterns of knowledge tends to stick. Information that doesn’t tends not to. I suspect much of our writing got momentarily noticed, as being in the “oh, that’s really weird!” perceptual category, then was rapidly forgotten.

The headlines of our stories were provocative enough: “Palin’s Movement Urges Godly to Plunder Wealth of Godless”; “Palin Linked to Second Witch Hunter”; “Palin’s Spiritual Warfare Network Partners With Homeland Security”; “Palin put Religious War Advocate on Alaska Suicide Prevention Council.”

Our work did get out through some smaller progressive media platforms: Radio talk-show host Thom Hartmann (and a few other hosts) interviewed me. On the Internet, Mark Karlin of Buzzflash strongly promoted our work, accurately dubbing Palin a ‘Manchurian candidate.’

New York Times religion reporter Laurie Goodstein interviewed us at considerable length and quoted me in her NYT story on Palin. She was one of the few journalists assigned to the beat (Garance Burke, writing for the Associated Press, also stood out) who got it. Her story, without actually naming the New Apostolic Reformation, covered much of what was important for her readers to know about the distinctive nature of Palin’s faith and religious associations.

Despite gaining broad distribution on the Internet, I think that our work didn’t spread deeply into the mainstream media because we didn’t have access to big enough distribution channels. While we were posting on some alternative news services, such as Alternet and Buzzflash, The Daily Kos and The Huffington Post, many of the biggest liberal political blogs didn’t pick up our stories.

I would add two other factors: when some mainstream media outlets did stories which, to be honest, seemed to be quite heavily derivative of our work, they didn’t credit us; and our stories may have been too dense for the 24/7 news cycle and too full of unrecognized names of individuals, organizations, and concepts.

We were very careful with our facts and as we’ve both continued our research, we’ve learned that our stories were more on target than we knew at the time.

Some religious Web sites responded favorably to your work.

Yes, perhaps the most enthusiastic response we got was from classic fundamentalists—Pre-millennial Apocalyptic Dispensationalists, to be specific. Those folks were reposting our stories, in their entirety, on their Web sites, and they praised our work for accurately describing the NAR and its theology. They’ve been aware of the movement for years, and most of the good oppositional research on it, up until now, has been done by fundamentalists—religious traditionalists in essence, who consider the New Apostolic Reformation to be a dangerous and possibly satanic heresy.

The rift seemed to go straight to the heart of the hard right: one of our stories about Palin and the NAR was reposted in its entirety on the Free Republic Web site, then a fight broke out between pro and anti-NAR site members. It was astounding!

You produced over twenty stories and several videos on Palin. What are your plans for the future?

The short answer is: books, longer and more ambitious articles, and even a full length video documentary or two. The New Apostolic movement relies heavily on visual media and pop music (much of it now carried over the Internet) for organizing and projecting its ideas, and for creating the movement’s sensual, experiential allure. So, there’s a vast amount of rich media to draw on, much of it—in terms of advertising and PR—cutting edge.

In terms of writing, I feel drawn toward unpacking how the existing lines of ideological conflict we see in our time came to be. That’s crucial, I feel, and it’s part of a craft I’ve just found a term for: ‘parapolitics’—the shaping of cultural precepts which form ideologies that in turn drive politics. The right has long been waging parapolitics but, especially in the religious sphere, the left seems to have largely forgotten it exists.”

From http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/religiousright/1275/the_new_christianity:_what_the_mainstream_media_has_missed_?page=entire

Full research on the ‘Transformations’ franchise can be found at

http://www.talk2action.org/pages/docs/Transformation.pdf

 

The law catches up with crooked pastors

In Uncategorized on April 3, 2009 at 12:41 am

The Star-Ledger reports…

Three pastors of a nondenominational church in Randolph used members’ donations and proceeds from selling the $5 million church building to buy a $1.6 million mansion in Mendham Township, a $450,000 schooner in Jersey City and life-coaching classes, state officials said yesterday.

Eric Simons, the pastor of Church Alive, also paid himself an annual salary of between $70,000 and $90,000, state officials said. Simons, his wife and the church’s associate pastor, Marianne Simons, and assistant pastor Philip DuPlessis, also gave themselves a total of $150,000 in honorariums for personal use, officials said.

“It pretty clearly shows you that greed was at play,” state Division of Consumer Affairs director David Szuchman said yesterday at a news conference in front of the Mendham home.

In a settlement reached with the state, the Simonses and DuPlessis will make restitution to the congregation and repay nearly $61,000 to the state for the cost of its investigation. The church’s books are undergoing a review, and the total restitution could not be determined yesterday.

The three also must immediately resign as church board members, Szuchman said. They still serve as church pastors.

State officials additionally assigned a fiscal monitor to take control of the church’s finances and have referred fraud allegations about the three pastors to the Morris County Prosecutor’s Office. Robert Bianchi, the county prosecutor, said his office would consider charges.

Half a dozen of the church’s 75 members attended yesterday’s news conference and were glad the state had reached a settlement with the pastors. They said they had donated the money for church improvements and to aid the poor. All three pastors, they said, should be charged with crimes.

“What breaks my heart is that children were going to bed with no food, and he would live in a house like this,” said Maria Palumbo of Wharton, who was a member of the church for 13 years, and in that time, donated $90,000. “If I had known that this was what my money was going toward, I wouldn’t have given a dime.”

In addition to the reimbursements, the settlement requires the church to appoint a new board within 30 days, Szuchman said. The board will determine any sales prospects for the Mendham mansion, where the Simonses still reside.

DuPlessis must turn over the title and registration of the schooner, where he and his wife, Sharon, live, to the church. Sharon DuPlessis was an assistant pastor at the church, but she is not part of the settlement, state officials said.

The church’s board also must hire a financial adviser to examine the books to uncover what happened to the rest of the $5 million from the sale of the church building at 791 Route 10 East, officials said.

Philip DuPlessis said he and the Simonses did nothing wrong.

“We believe it’s an injustice,” DuPlessis said about the settlement. “We’ve been good stewards of our finances, and we have every penny accounted for.”

DuPlessis said they were “forced” to sell the church building because they were unable to pay the $10,000-per-month mortgage. From the sale of the church, DuPlessis said, “there were some proceeds in which we invested.”

One of the investments was the “parsonage” in Mendham, at which he said youth, women’s and prayer groups, as well as ministry, are held several times a week.

DuPlessis said he “never” used church funds for personal use, “besides obvious compensation and salary.” The schooner, he said, was a “leadership development platform” used by inner-city youth.

“We are passionate about personal life transformation of leaders,” DuPlessis said.

In a statement, Simons said, “What these people meant for our destruction, God utilized it for our good in strengthening our church, galvanizing the members and creating the landing strip for a better and brighter future.”

The investigation into the church’s funds began in May 2008 after church members realized the pastors had bought the Mendham home and the schooner, said Jeff Lamm, a state consumer affairs spokesman.

The three pastors, who had come to the congregation in 1999, had disbanded the church’s board, giving themselves full control of church funds, officials said. State officials are uncertain how much money was donated into the building fund, but they said most of the donations were made by seven couples and one individual.

The state investigation revealed Marianne Simons, a Realtor for Weichert, put the church building on the market and took a commission on the $5 million sale in May 2008. The building was owned by the not-for-profit Church Alive Inc., state officials said. The DuPlessises rented out the sailboat to corporations as part of Philip DuPlessis’ for-profit business at Liberty Landing Marina in Jersey City, state officials and church members said.

Simons also spent about $40,000 on life-coaching classes and a life-coaching license he uses to operate his for-profit life-coaching business. Church Alive holds the license, officials said.

Bible Church International continues to lease space to Church Alive for its Sunday worship services, said Larry Biondo, a chief investigator at consumer affairs. Those services are still led by Eric Simons and Philip DuPlessis.”

From http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-13/123864574462600.xml&coll=1

Prosperity pastor targeted by criminals

In Uncategorized on April 1, 2009 at 10:24 am

The Weekend Post reports…

“He’s gone from living on R82 a month to being one of the richest pastors in the country, whose deep husky voice has thousands of Christian believers in Nelson Mandela Bay coming in droves to hear his message every week.

While some shy away from the subject, Victory Ministries senior pastor Jerome Liberty is not afraid to preach about money.

The businessman turned pastor became a born-again Christian in 1993. He claims a prophet had told him that God had raised him to be a millionaire. Six months later he became one.

“I made my first million when I was a sub-contractor installing toilets, then a few years later I developed an interest in property. I believe that God has prepared me to speak to people on finances, investment and debt cancellation,” said the pastor, who claims he was once broke, earning R82 a month and driving an old jalopy.

Wearing a sleek grey suit and standing on a flower-bedecked glass podium yesterday at a service in Nangoza Jebe Hall, New Brighton, Liberty‘s message was on tithing and offering to God.

“If you bring your tithes and offering to God, he will bless you and give you abundant wealth,” he said to shouts of “Hallelujah!” and “Amen!” from the crowd.

Liberty quoted from Isaiah.

“Tithes will reveal where your heart is. The law of tithes was designed to make you wealthy. Test if you are genuine and consistent. When you rob God of tithes you are robbing yourself of the multiple blessings the Lord might give you,” he preached.

Liberty made an example of five people in his church who, he claimed, had been blessed by God through tithing.

One of these people was a man known as Bonginkosi, who apparently gave Liberty money and was afterwards able to travel the world and to drive an expensive car.

“When these people came with their money, I was reluctant to take it. I said God I do not need their money because I already have everything,” he told the congregation.

Liberty is the author of five spiritual books: Faith, Dynamics of Leadership, Problems to Promotions, Money Matters and Apostle in the Market Place.

He hosts regular conferences that draw international guest speakers such as Bishop Tudor Bismark and international gospel singers such as the Australian band Hillsong and Donnie McClurkin.

Liberty and his wife Eunice, also a pastor, started the church in 2001.

Although they have become increasingly popular in Christian circles, Liberty was cagy about his home life and said he had been targeted by criminals.

Liberty refused to allow a photograph during an interview and his staff prevented The Herald from taking pictures of him during the service yesterday.

“My daughter was at one point abducted by strangers. The church building has been vandalised many times because of publicity,” he said.”

From http://www.weekendpost.co.za/article.aspx?id=404831

Brian Houston reminds himself that he’s a weak leader

In Uncategorized on April 1, 2009 at 10:11 am

Brian Houston twitters…

“RT @BrianCHouston: Strong leaders listen. It’s weak leaders that dictate.”

From http://twitter.com/BrianCHouston