Danny Nalliah blogs…
“Dear friends and family in Christ,
Is Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and the Labor government, who have betrayed the Christian voters after winning the last federal election, now about to betray the nation of Australia once again? In his recent 2GB Radio interview with Lord Mockton, Alan Jones from Sydney stated in his closing comments, “Is the Prime Minister about to betray us all?”
In December at the Global Warming Summit in Copenhagen, Denmark, PM Kevin Rudd will relinquish Australia’s democratic rights to make decisions as a sovereign nation, by signing a treaty to a ONE WORLD GOVERMENT led by the United Nations.
Janet Albrechtsen’s article on climate change in the 28 October edition of the Australian refers to the United Nation’s ‘Copenhagen Plot’. The article deals with a draft of the climate change treaty, which she says is ‘aimed at creating a world government that would tax rich countries and give to poor ones’. As members know, the United Nations Climate Change Conference will take place at the Bella Centre in Copenhagen, Denmark from 7 to 18 December 2009. The conference includes the fifteenth Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
We at Catch the Fire Ministries fought a 5 year battle for freedom of Speech and freedom of Religion in the state of Victoria due to a bad piece of legislation which became law in 2002 under the Labor administration. Thank God we won this battle which helped us regain our freedom of speech. Is our entire nation of Australia about to lose it forever?
As reported in the Australian, ‘the question now is why the Federal Government failed to provide some of the information that is the basis for the treaty to indicate the direction the treaty is going. When 15,000 officials, advisers, diplomats, activists and journalists arrive from 190 countries they will be force-fed the treaty document to sign. We have to know what is in it. If Australia signs it—and I imagine Mr Rudd will enthusiastically commit Australia to it—what effect will it have on Australia? Lord Christopher Monckton, a former adviser to the Thatcher Government, made a statement at Saint Paul Minnesota on 14 October about his interpretation of the document. He has also been interviewed on Alan Jones’ program on 2GB. Lord Monckton claims that the aim of the Copenhagen draft treaty is to set up a trans-national government on a scale the world has never seen. It talks about a new trans-national treaty and refers to a new body to be set up under treaty as a government.’
Lord Monckton in his speech in the US in Oct quoted, “We are at the 11th hour, 59th minute and 59th second to save our nations from a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. Your president is about to sign this treaty so are many other leaders. But you can stop it”.
Visit the following link to watch a 4 minute interview from Lord Monckton of the British House of Lords regarding the upcoming Global Climate Change Summit in Copenhagen in December where nations will cede away sovereignty to a global government body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
Visit the following link to listen to Lord Monckton’s 15 minute radio interview with Allan Jones in Sydney, Australia regarding the ETS, Copenhagen Treaty, and a One World Government.
http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998
The left-wing secularists and most media attack us all the time for standing up for absolute moral values. Will they now cover up and sell their own birthright in order to protect a left-wing secular government. I hope we will wake up to the fact that our children and grandchildren will pay the price if we sign up to this ONE WORLD AGENDA. In particular what worries me is the key players behind it, the Rockerfeller family, Henry Kissinger, Mikhail Gorbachev, Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan [the little fat kid from Hey Dad - I added that one in - Ed 
] and others, who are main representatives of the club of Rome. Communists, Muslims, and others are working together for a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. We all know that they despise Democracy.
Australia we need to stop Rudd from signing this treaty. To email the PM with your voice of protest click on the following link and following the instructions for emailing the PM:
http://pm.gov.au/PM_Connect/Email_your_PM
Alternatively, you may send a fax to the PM’s office at (02) 6273 4100.
One report recently stated in the last 30 years the ice melt down has been the least in the last year. The month of October saw a massive prayer operation across Australia and in particular on Mount Ainslie in Canberra. We thank God for exposing the above as we believe it is a direct result of prayer to save our nation and the world.
While a large part of the Christian church is in denial, much of the secular media is increasingly confirming what we proclaimed (and many other Christian prophetic ministries) several years ago regarding a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! Is this the beginning of the end before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ to Jerusalem, Israel as the reigning King of kings and LORD of lords?
We at Catch the Fire Ministries and millions of Bible-believing God-fearing Christians around the world believe it is so! (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation 19:11-21, Daniel 7:13-14, 18)
Your Brother in Christ,
Pastor Daniel Nalliah”
We should expect nothing but conspiracy theories from far right climate change deniers.
Why should these fundies care about the planet when Jesus is coming really really soon anyway ?
Hey zqudlyba, any Christian SHOULD be on the right politically. Leftist ideology is definitely anti-Christian, and even Christian moderates can be too way too tolerant. Christianity isn’t a religion of tolerance. And as for your comment about climate change, without starting a debate about the climate change myth, doubting or rejecting a non-scientific hypothesis based upon computer modelling does not make a person a conspiracy theorist. It’s makes him a realist who would rather base his opinions upon scientific data collected by real scientists working on “the coal-face”, rather than upon agenda-driven, grant-focussed Al Gore disciples relying on a computer somewhere to tell them that the world is doomed.
A Troll!! Kill it! Kill it!
XC3: “Leftist ideology is definitely anti-Christian, and even Christian moderates can be too way too tolerant. Christianity isn’t a religion of tolerance.”
To XC3:
Leftist idealogy is sooo extreme that we invade other nations, kill people, lie to the world, side with the rich, greedy and delusional, attract religion and their fanatics to be on the ‘winning side’ and do this all in the name of ‘God’.
Of course the political ‘right’ is more humane and profitable to represent the ‘Christian’ way. If I said ‘no war’ six years ago, you’d probably slap me and spit in my face, degrade me and parrot all the reasons in the world to justify our government KILLING PEOPLE and DECEIVING PEOPLE in the name of God by invading Afghanistan and Iraq. (A very Christian thing to do I must say).
The political ‘right’ have a LOT to answer for. And if you believe we SHOULD be on the political ‘right’, (as you seem to extremely express), then congratulations! Because if that was your belief before Howard got removed from office, you are siding with a lying, deceiving, profiteering war criminal.
Go worship your ‘God’ with your blood stained hands of the innocent children of Afghanistan and Iraq. Believe in those that tickle your ears with their tongue so that you delight in their indulgences and turn your back on justice and the poor; the very people that Jesus came to love and save. Let money speak through the lips of the political ‘right’ and may you swallow every ‘God penny’ they speak. Let their opinions be your opinions. Let their facts be your facts. Switch tongues mouth to mouth and represent your ‘leaders’ before the so-called doomed, heathen and ignorant people!
The men that you worship, plot against you and speak unjustly. They speak the venom of snakes and block their ears like a cobra. You were their target and now your mind and tongue is theirs! You have conformed to their image and merely parrot them so that their belly profits from your gullibility.
I’ve researched the right and I’ve researched the left. I examine their claims and come to my OWN opinion. I’ve read the bible and hold fast to the gospel message of love and grace. Love can criticize and rebuke, but it wont kill. Love isn’t ignorant. I’m not saying any side is perfect. But to trump with ignorance “any Christian SHOULD be on the right politically”, is pure blindness and gullibility. Come back with your own researched opinion that requires your own effort to find answers, not someone elses.
If you’re still reading up to this point, good on you. Let God do the speaking in your search for truth in all this. Not man. And now, no more me. You seem passionate about justice and God. May he reveal to you what needs to be revealed. When it comes to politics, it’s never that black and white. This requires an individual to research both sides and then make up their own mind. Good luck and God bless!
Woah Specks! Take a chill pill! Sit down, take a deep breath and re-read the post you wrote. It’s exactly that kind of language and attitude that supports my original post. It is the left that are the hand-wringers and the apologists for terrorism. There were legitimate reasons for going to war, just like there were many lies and mis-information that lead us there. Wars are murky affairs, and many governments will hide things to justify their actions. Let me ask you, though, what should they have done? Let Saddam continue to murder his citizens? Let Osama continue to murder innocent Australian tourists? Let me ask another question. What would YOU have done? Sometimes awful things need to be done to prevent even larger awful things happening. It’s all a part of living in a fallen world. But let’s get back to what my OP was about – the incompatibility between leftist ideology and Christian beliefs. Take a long hard honest look at the leftist ideology that is pervading our schools, universities, and the media. Read the writings of Philip Adams, Mike Carlton, Robert Manne. May I ask that you show me anything within scripture that tells us A) that we must be tolerant of all religions, B) mothers have the right to kill their babies in the womb, C) all Christians are religious bigots who hate gays. These are all key beliefs of the political left. If you honestly believe in the core of your being that it is compatible with Christianity, then more power to you. I hope it goes well for you.
XC3: “Leftist ideology is definitely anti-Christian, and even Christian moderates can be too way too tolerant. Christianity isn’t a religion of tolerance.”
To XC3:
Leftist idealogy is sooo extreme that we invade other nations, kill people, lie to the world, side with the rich, greedy and delusional, attract religion and their fanatics to be on the ‘winning side’ and do this all in the name of ‘God’.
Of course the political ‘right’ is more humane and profitable to represent the ‘Christian’ way. If I said ‘no war’ six years ago, you’d probably slap me and spit in my face, degrade me and parrot all the reasons in the world to justify our government KILLING PEOPLE and DECEIVING PEOPLE in the name of God by invading Afghanistan and Iraq. (A very Christian thing to do I must say).
The political ‘right’ have a LOT to answer for. And if you believe we SHOULD be on the political ‘right’, (as you seem to extremely express), then congratulations! Because if that was your belief before Howard got removed from office, you are siding with a lying, deceiving, profiteering war criminal.
Go worship your ‘God’ with your blood stained hands of the innocent children of Afghanistan and Iraq. Believe in those that tickle your ears with their tongue so that you delight in their indulgences and turn your back on justice and the poor; the very people that Jesus came to love and save. Let money speak through the lips of the political ‘right’ and may you swallow every ‘God penny’ they speak. Let their opinions be your opinions. Let their facts be your facts. Switch tongues mouth to mouth and represent your ‘leaders’ before the so-called doomed, heathen and ignorant people!
The men that you worship, plot against you and speak unjustly. They speak the venom of snakes and block their ears like a cobra. You were their target and now your mind and tongue is theirs! You have conformed to their image and merely parrot them so that their belly profits from your gullibility.
I’ve researched the right and I’ve researched the left. I examine their claims and come to my OWN opinion. I’ve read the bible and hold fast to the gospel message of love and grace. Love can criticize and rebuke, but it wont kill. Love isn’t ignorant. I’m not saying any side is perfect. But to trump with ignorance “any Christian SHOULD be on the right politically”, is pure blindness and gullibility. Come back with your own researched opinion that requires your own effort to find answers, not someone elses.
If you’re still reading up to this point, good on you. Let God do the speaking in your search for truth in all this. Not man. And now, no more me. You seem passionate about justice and God. May he reveal to you what needs to be revealed. When it comes to politics, it’s never that black and white. This requires an individual to research both sides and then make up their own mind. Good luck and God bless!
“It is the left that are the hand-wringers and the apologists for terrorism.”
You are incredible XC3! Go kill a child and nuke a family in the name of Jesus you right-wing ‘lying murderer’ lover! Then when you come back ‘in the name of Jesus’ spreading ‘justice’, ‘gospel’ and ‘love’, tell me how your conscience feels! It was an act of terror to invade those countries.
And to support terror, as you seemingly are doing, is just… blindness! There was NO legitimate reason for going to war. Not ONE!
We are seeing the fruit of the so-called “Christian” right, and from it, I never seen more fear, hatred and division spread in the name of Jesus in my lifetime.
I’m discovering it is more a popular myth that it was ‘the left’ that is more immoral then the right. It was more of a tactic of the political right to instill that fear into those that oppose them. I see it has worked on you. However, I will look into those writers you mentioned.
Then you might actually question your values and see that ‘fear’ plays a huge role in determining how we think.
I’d rather love my homosexual brother and Muslim friend and work out these issues ‘one on one’ about religion, homosexuality and abortion. These are issues and topics we can still discuss and work with the community on. It’s important for women to know the consequences abortion can have on their own spiritual, emotional, mental and physical makeup.
What would have I done would say in all this? I would be weak, like Christ and like Paul. I would have said the same thing the victims of the New York 9/11 – I FORGIVE. It would have been the greater act of humanity, and would be the best offense and defense for maintaining Christianity, healthy morals, and own country focus in health-care, education and infrastructure. Too much Western terrorism backed this profiteering war ‘against’ terrorism. Violence encourages violence. And YOU are seemingly for that in the name of God!
Many of the victims did not want this to happen to whoever did this to them, after they heard rumours that their government might respond with war. And the good ol’ “Christian Right” did decided to fight right back, backed up by little Christian Johnny Howard and his cash cows, supported and adored by Hillsong and the FFP and suckered by CCCOF. All the religious kissed the ring of the greedy and deceiving ‘Christian’ war criminal Howard.
I am embarrassed that the Christian right want to be associated with ‘God’ after all the atrocities they’ve already committed in his name. You couldn’t get any more hypocritical, Pharasitical and parasitical then the Christian right. They don’t represent God, but merely represent a clanging gong; a parade of masquerading light shows with the masquerader himself, promising empty covenants, puffing up pride, pioneering from the pulpit to the pit, leaving a wake of destruction and debauchery. Their hands are stained with the blood of the innocent and wave their current sins before God with clenched fists, marching forward in denial declaring war against their next enemy who does not submit to their way.
For some reason, the church of today MUST have an enemy, in a very similar way that America must have. And you are reinforcing this fear and hatred by your misdirected zeal FOR God, like the murderous Pharisee Saul. If it’s not terrorists, it’s homosexuals. If it’s not homosexuals, it’s baby killers. If it’s not baby killers, it’s those who are against you in everything you do. Rip that foreskin off your face and stop being a dickhead Saul.
“Blinded By The Right” by David Brock (Ex-Conservative). Any articles by Mike Ruppert, John Pilger (who is fairly left but focuses on balanced news) and Andrew Wilkie. Professor Rocke and his articles are very expose on the Iraq war too and the stories of some human shields and reporters on the field too.
XC3: “May I ask that you show me anything within scripture that tells us A) that we must be tolerant of all religions
B) mothers have the right to kill their babies in the womb
C) all Christians are religious bigots who hate gays. These are all key beliefs of the political left.”
The early church tolerated persecution from different faiths constantly. We are to not judge the world but the church. I’ve aired my concerns about the Muslim faith to other Christians on here, but in relation to Rick Warren’s seeker sensitive gospel approach. We are to simply tolerate and by the truth in what we know.
But that can also mean we can ask questions and take stands for justice respectfully the way that Martin Luther King did and others like him.
just to be controversial, why do we have to tolerate terrorism
To mj, why must we use terrorism to combat terrorism?
Doesn’t that justify their cause to use more terrorism against us?
To stand up and declare that what was done is evil, then to supernaturally forgive those, in spite of the pain and loss, IS a way to combat terrorism. The greater justice is mercy and forgiveness.
well, no, shouldn’t use violence where possible, of course, Im a pacifist but Im not sure about this topic, Im on the fence. If peole didn’t stand up to Hitler, how would things have turned out for example
John Pilger!!!!! Slightly left????? I take you’re all the way over there with him, speck&planks. Christians should be neither right nor left of politics, but far above it enough to influence it in a godly way. But if it comes to stopping totalitarian, murderous despots through force to end their tarps and pillage of thinnocent, then we need to stand between them and their violence, even if it means crushing their religious sensibilities. All Christians hate violence, but the ethics of this means that it takesore than dilacy to end the antics and murderous activities of groups like the Taliban.
Calling John Howard a ‘lying, deceiving, profiteering war criminal’ is pure leftist Pilger, and says more about you than I’d ever imagined.
Takes more than diplomacy…
Wow! Just read your spat again, s&p. You spew hatred out on Howard and the religious right, holding them accountable, yet forgive the perpetrators of terror. Pure Pilger!
LOL. Joe Hockey The Plumber doesn’t know if he’s ‘right’ or ‘left’
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/god-is-good-but-just-be-sure-not-to-take-him-too-literally-20091109-i58p.html
Don;t feed the troll…starve it to death
I think the point is, in the case in Texas, that the soldier shot his fellow men, bad enough soldiers of opposing sides shooting each other. It wasn’t just an accident it was premeditated and he fired upon unarmed men and women, one woman was 3 months pregnant. To me he appears to be insane, and scarily he is a doctor, and he has an oath regarding preserving life.
I would consider myself to be right of centre in most aspects of life: I am a conservative in my thinking; but I do think through things and I do spend time evaluating every issue that I consider important. Some things have changed for me over the years, in certain areas I have become more liberal, in other areas more conservative.
But I would not blindly follow a party or movement or leader simply because he is on the right wing of politics. Take George W. Bush, who proved one thing: religion and politics don’t mix – it is like oil and water. The religious right in the US has stuffed up their country and for what? A blind loyalty to an ideology.
But I do think this though: Christians should be involved in politics – in whatever aspect, but don’t force down your personal beliefs and opinions on others! We Christians should vote, should hold office, should be involved in the movement of politics.
I only have to think about my own beloved country and how Christians played a huge part in bringing about change!
In fact it was Bill Clinton who forced sub-prime mortgages on financiers, which began the monetary slide. Bush poured millions into your beloved Africa in AIDS relief.
“Bush poured millions into your beloved Africa in AIDS relief”… and what has that achieved in Africa? People getting anti-retrovirals, but going hungry! If Bush was an ethical man, he would not have gone down the road with Bio-fuels which have driven up the cost of grain! Bush was in bed with the energy companies, and pushed their agenda.
I do agree that the USA’s slide did start with Clinton – whom I never liked either as a president – he was a politician – not a leader; and Bush was much the same. How is Obama going to fare? I hope better, but once again, in my opinion, another politician, rather than leader…
This is my point – it does not matter who is running the country, it is too much of the same – poor leadership, too much partisanship and no courage in making the difficult choices! I believe that we need to leave ideology at the door when we vote for our leadership. At this point in time, I don’t believe that there is one country in the world that can be proud of their leadership – because too much is at stake for them.
To Craig – I don’t think you can change something from the inside out. Becoming part of the system is no way to bring about change. You do your bit from the sidelines if need be but becoming involved in the affairs of this age means that we have bought into the serpents lie that of “kingdom now” theology. Imagine of the Jews of the Nazi regime tried to bring about change by enlisting in the German armed forces and rising through the ranks??? Ludicrous to say the least.
A “Christian” is called to be an ambassador of Christ and a citizen of heaven. This takes precedence over the affairs of men and the world in which we live… At no time did Christ or the early apostles become embroiled in the affairs of Rome and the governance of the provinces. We should not forget that women were treated brutally in those times, slavery was rife as was corruption in the senate. “My kingdom is not of this world” is as true now as it was when Christ stood before Pilate.
An ambassador to a country does not involve him or herself in the affairs of that nation to which they are sent. If they do so, they invariably eschew their role as an impartial ambassador and become criminals of their own natural country’s court system.
Have an opinion by all means but stay away from the snake pit of politics.
If it is noted in the bible that the “Peacemakers will be the sons of God”, then those that strive for peace will be seen to be. War answers nothing. Scolding and discipline is something else, but that is not the loss of life.
If the Spirit gives life, what right do we have to take it away? If God is love, how is war love? If the good news is about our King of Peace and Eternal Love, loving the whole world, how is war achieving this?
Someone had to bring up Nazi’s and Hitler. Do you know what didn’t help back then either in those days? The church’s silence. I think it was the catholic church that was in agreement with Hitler though.
This says A LOT about the state of the church and the times we are living in. Finally a church made news in Sydney with a sign they stuck up (Jesus love Osama). But the war was ‘finished’ by then, so it was a bit less radical and a safer thing to do. This has proven how backward the church has gone. Really small churches did make a stand, but those that I was actively involved in at the time, CCC and Hillsong got a bit more friendly in the pants of Australian politics, much to my shock.
XC3 hit a sore nerve with me, as this topic is very sensitive to me. I will not tolerate such blatant hatred and ignorance of those brainwashed by the political religious right. If they want to learn, I will engage with them intellectually and then we can exchange materials and resources that help further the understanding of matters.
I find ‘blah-blah’s’ comment very wise. Good point!
As a result of my rant, I apologise for derailing this thread.
“To Craig – I don’t think you can change something from the inside out. Becoming part of the system is no way to bring about change. You do your bit from the sidelines if need be but becoming involved in the affairs of this age means that we have bought into the serpents lie that of “kingdom now” theology. Imagine of the Jews of the Nazi regime tried to bring about change by enlisting in the German armed forces and rising through the ranks??? Ludicrous to say the least.
A “Christian” is called to be an ambassador of Christ and a citizen of heaven. This takes precedence over the affairs of men and the world in which we live… At no time did Christ or the early apostles become embroiled in the affairs of Rome and the governance of the provinces. We should not forget that women were treated brutally in those times, slavery was rife as was corruption in the senate. “My kingdom is not of this world” is as true now as it was when Christ stood before Pilate.
An ambassador to a country does not involve him or herself in the affairs of that nation to which they are sent. If they do so, they invariably eschew their role as an impartial ambassador and become criminals of their own natural country’s court system.
Have an opinion by all means but stay away from the snake pit of politics.”
Politics is a snake pit! I can agree with that whole-heartedly. What you have posted is valid, but I cannot agree that we should not attempt to bring about change around us…. We are meant to be the light of the world – and light is effective where there is much darkness! We are also the salt of the earth – here to preserve. You ask the question about Nazism. But yet I must ask the question: What if someone had stood up to the Nationalists beforehand?
It is not a question of theology, but of trying to make a difference in our world. How will people know Jesus unless they see Jesus – i.e. see Jesus in us!
“XC3 hit a sore nerve with me, as this topic is very sensitive to me. I will not tolerate such blatant hatred and ignorance of those brainwashed by the political religious right”
Are you serious Specks?!!! Please point out to me any instance where I displayed one bit of hatred in my posts. Your posts on the other hand were spewing some of the most violent rage I have ever seen on this blog. Even Lance in full voice hasn’t come near to what you vented in your replies to my posts.
“There was NO legitimate reason for going to war. Not ONE!”
I can give you 2976 reasons – one for every innocent life taken by your beloved Osama.
“our government KILLING PEOPLE and DECEIVING PEOPLE in the name of God by invading Afghanistan and Iraq.”
Just how many innocent people has “our government” killed in Afghanistan and Iraq Specks? Less than 20. How many innocent Afghanistan and Iraqi lives were lost THIS WEEK as a result of Muslim terrorist activity? You claim to have studied both sides of the argument. Actually your lack of understanding of the whole matter shines through your posts like a torch through glad wrap. Try reading Bob Woodward’s books “Plan of Attack” and “Bush at War”. Balanced reporting without championing the Bush administration, as well as highlighting many of the failures. You are simply dragging out the same tired old arguments that when compared to actual reality don’t stand up to scrutiny. I suggest that you have a bit of a lie down with a hot cup of tea and think about reality for a while.