Lance (Group Sects) writes…
History Makers Radio has pulled Pastor Matt Prater’s 2011 anti-gay parody song from its website after his 2013 appearance on the ABC’s Q & A program.
However, the song is still available on the net.
For legal reasons I am not creating my own file of the song to post here, but below is a link to the song.
Play song audio
History Makers Radio blogged in December 2011…
“This is Matt Prater’s first ever recorded song. It’s a parody version of Billy Joel’s “We didn’t start the fire.” It’s a comedy song that Matt aired on Vision radio, tackling the issue of Homosexual marriage, and the need for Revival!”
From http://www.historymakersradio.com/2011-12-17-we-need-revival-fire
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Group Sects 
Margot, what on earth has that blog comment got to do with the idiot pastor, his innane song, his hypocrisy at being in a second marriage (but not wanting to allow certain people a crack at their first) and his inability to recognise that studying under Phil Pringle does not consititute gong to bible college?
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Christians Serving Gay Couples – Is it Biblical?
http://reformedreasons.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/christians-serving-gay-couples-is-it.html?m=0
A Renewed and Candid Reconsideration
Before I get into the meat of this blog I want to make sure you understand what it is I am getting at. First, I am not placing any obligations on Christian business to engage in practices they deem unrighteous. I am not really suggesting that you take any action at all regarding the matter that has recently exploded on the scene in American culture as it relates to the specific issue of how Christian should relate to gay couples. What I am suggesting is that we think through our actions to make sure that our thinking and behavior are in fact clearly supported by Scripture. I have written a lot about the homosexual movement serving as the greatest threat to religious freedom in American culture and I still think that is true. However, I am afraid that I may have contributed to fuzzy thinking on the issue and I want to set the matter straight, at least where I am concerned.
The burning question: Is it unrighteous, ungodly, or unbiblical for a Christian to do business with homosexuals when that activity leads to the ungodly practice of gay marriage? This is a very important question and one that, if answered incorrectly, could lead to unnecessary pain and suffering on the part of Christian business people.
The New Mexico Story
In 2006, Elaine and Jonathon Huguenin refused to take photos of a gay celebration ceremony because it violated their Christian belief. The Huguenins believed that doing business with the gay couple would be participating in the celebration or in some way construed as an endorsement of the lifestyle. This is a slippery slope that we walk so we must use wisdom in how we answer the question. How does taking pictures of a gay celebration endorse the gay lifestyle? I cannot see how taking the photos of the ceremony could be ipso facto viewed as an endorsement. Should the Huguenin’s be allowed to do business with whomever they wish and refuse to do business with whomever they wish? That is a good question. I am not a legal expert and so I cannot say for sure. I can say that permitting businesses to discriminate based on whatever criteria they desire is probably not the best way to maintain fairness and justice in a society.
The Oregon Story
More recently, an Oregon bakery known as Sweet Cakes by Melissa has closed its doors for similar reasons. The bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple and the backlash has been nothing short of ludicrous. The bakery has since been forced to close due to the constant angry protests and threats organized by the homosexual community. The owners even said that some threats were aimed at their children, hoping they would die. Indeed, this is not the America in which I was raised. But was this episode really necessary? Did the Christian owners have to refuse to bake a cake for the lesbian couple in order to remain faithful to biblical Christianity? If the answer to this question is no, then indeed it is a pity that one could lose their business on what could possibly be misplaced convictions. I am not suggest that is the case, but I am saying we have to ask the hard question if it might be the case. What we need in the current environment is sound, godly, healthy leadership with the ability to think through the issues and properly apply biblical principles that Christians are thinking correctly about these issues.
The Wedding at Cana
Enter a wealthy wedding a Cana. I understand the purpose of the sign at the wedding as to point to Christ as Messiah. Nevertheless, Jesus never sinned in performing His miracles and He did not sin here either. We have a wedding celebration full of drunk guests when Jesus gets the request from His mother to provide more wine to people who are already sinfully drunk. Can Jesus honor His mother’s request? Could He be accused of endorsing drunkenness and sin by honoring that request? I think He could. But Jesus honored the request anyways. After all, it is one thing to be accused of endorsing sinful behavior and quite another to be guilty of it. Jesus Himself was accused of being a drunk and a glutton even though He was neither. Jesus was able to provide wine for people at a wedding for people who were clearly engaged in violating His principles of behavior for alcohol consumption. This is an event that we must consider when we work through this gay marriage issue. Are there limitations? Of course there are. A preacher could never unite gay people in marriage without sinning because that is serving as a key figure in bringing together an unholy union. But that is a religious matter, or ritual, not a matter of business.
A Different and Interesting Perspective
If we cannot bake a cake for a gay couple because God does not honor their union, must we also turn away the believer-unbeliever unions? I think we must. In addition, what about the owner of a hotel who rents rooms to people who are going to commit sexual sin? What about the Christian hotel owner who knows a gay couple have leased a room for their honeymoon? What about the tuxedo shop owner? And the Limo service? Where do we draw the line? If we object to the gay couple, can we object to the couple that divorced on unbiblical grounds, and are getting remarried?
What if we took a different position than what we have seen so far. What if there is a better way for us to deal with this gay marriage, Christian business issue? What if the bakery responds to the gay couple by saying, sure, I will bake your cake but, you must understand that I am a Christian, and as such I do not believe that God sanctions your behavior. What if, at that point, while serving them as a business, the Christian takes this opportunity to give them the gospel of Christ and issues the message of repentance? Would the couple still want to use the Christian business? Maybe, but maybe not. The more important thing is that the Christian business is in the wonderful position of giving the gospel.
I am not saying my mind is settled on this issue. What I am saying is that I am having to take a harder look at it because I think I may be guilty of being inconsistent and thinking poorly about it. If we know as Christians that if we make the decision to enter business in American culture, then we must understand that we will be required by law to do certain things. As Christians, we do not have “rights” if you will to change the law to be in our favor. Those days are gone. Does religious liberty require that business law bend to Christian morality? I cannot say. What I can say is there are wiser ways to navigate this issue than the ones I am seeing so far. And it is in our best interest to start thinking differently when it comes to the gay marriage laws and how Christian business is to react to them. I see it as an opportunity to get the gospel out there and let these people know right up front what you position is and why. Give them the truth: the gospel truth. A for the rest of the issue, the best I can say is that I am still thinking about it.
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Thanks for the tip on that.
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Looks like Pastor Prater also changed his bio to “minimize” his divorce.
http://www.gaymentothat.com/2013/09/did-anti-gay-marriage-pastor-matt.html
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“Hope for Hurting Hearts” – really? So long as they’re not gay hearts hey Matt, you hypocrite.
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Australia is a SECULAR country. I’d like to remind the Pastor AND the PM that a good many of us don’t give damn what Jesus would do or what the bible says….about ANYTHING !!!
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Nathan, try it now.
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Seems to be gone now? Anyone take a mirror of it?
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the more educated the people become the more religion becomes discarded in day to day living. Then add idiots like this and suddenly religion is more out of touch with modern culture than a dog in a vegan store.
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Abominable. Thoroughly offensive and a very poor example to set for your congregation, Pastor Prater. This is clearly the product of a twisted soul filled with hatred.
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Couldn’t bear to listen to more than 5 seconds of it. Can’t stand wannabe business people and politicians wrapping themselves up in Christianity in order to suck money and votes out of a gullible audience. Look at the guy’s shirt: Has more sponsors on it than a Formula 1 driver.
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I think you would be in trouble having to cite Fred Nile and Jim Wallace! It seems the Christian Right (I am Christian, but not from the Right) seems to have an aversion to Science! Don’t believe in Climate Change and doesn’t believe the Science behind Homosexuality. I love debating them and beat them down everytime!
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It’s the stupid gay pastor from #QandA. This song is very humm Gay!
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@Roscoe. Just watched that video. Kind of funny.
But they played their own instruments, wrote the song, and sang in tune. Original.
Maybe you missed my point.
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Have you heard of the songs “Christians in Love” by Dead Cat Bounce?
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What a dumb thing to do. The gay community will love this, and it’s not even Christmas.
First he steals a song. Second he can’t sing. Third the lyrics are lame.
But more than that, does he not realize that it will obviously back fire because if Billy Joel and his fans bothered to take the time to do anything about this, they’d go on the attack about Christians hijacking a song written by someone who is obviously not anti-gay or anti-gay marriage and at the very least isn’t interested in “revival”.
How ridiculous. No doubt we’ll see this on youtube soon with Billy Joel fans criticizing this guy.
But anyway, does he really think this is the way to revival? Maybe he could put down his mic and go pray/
What a week! On one hand an artistically acclaimed movie presenting lesbian love, and the other side comes up with…? A bad rip-off of a Billy Joel song…
I feel like I’m on a team who are scoring tries on the wrong end of the field.
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