Pastor turns purple on Gayby Baby

 

Junkee reports…

“After a series of articles, op-eds and editorials in yesterday’s Daily Telegraph claiming community “outrage” over a Sydney high school’s plan to screen Gayby Baby, a documentary about the kids of same-sex families, the NSW government banned schools across the state from showing the film during school hours.

By day’s end, the issue was beginning to take on a life of its own that neither the Tele nor the government could have anticipated. Everyone from Senate Opposition Leader Penny Wong to the students of Burwood Girls High themselves (the school at the centre of the original Tele coverage) heavily criticised the Tele‘s claim that the movie was “propaganda,” as well as the Baird government’s decision to ban the film. The backlash even started gaining the attention of Tele sister sites like News.com.au and RendezView, and other outlets like the Guardian began finding some pretty serious holes in the Tele‘s original assertions about the extent of the so-called “outrage”.

To air out all sides of the debate, last night The Project hosted a debate-slash-interview between openly gay Sydney state MP Alex Greenwich and Presbyterian Minister Mark Powell, and it got pretty heated. Powell was instrumental to the Tele‘s foundational claim that the Gayby Baby screening had provoked community outrage — in the original Tele story he claims that “many parents” were upset by the prospect of their kids watching the movie at school, and declared Gayby Baby is “trying to change children’s minds by promoting a gay lifestyle.”

For people watching at home, it didn’t take very long to figure out where Powell stood on the issue of teaching LGBTI acceptance in schools more generally; he argued that the timing of the film’s release was “propaganda” designed to promote “a political ideology being enforced on our children,” and repeated his claim that the Burwood High screening had resulted in a substantial amount of upset to students and parents.

“We’ve got all these girls in tears coming to us and saying they feel victimised, like if they don’t participate in this they’re basically ostracised from their peers and even from some of their teachers at the school, and that’s the nub of the issue,” Powell said. When pressed by Project co-host Carrie Bickmore, though, Powell was unable to provide any details:

Carrie Bickmore: “Mark, how many girls have come to you? How many parents have come to you?”

Mark Powell: “Look Carrie, there’s been heaps. And the thing is, is that –“

CB: “What’s ‘heaps’, Mark? ‘Heaps’ is three or ‘heaps’ is a hundred?”

MP: “Well, ‘heaps’ in terms of more than students at Burwood Girls that actually identify with being gay.”

How Powell knows the number of Burwood Girls High students who identify as LGBTI wasn’t explored; given his views on the film, which he admits he hasn’t seen, it’s unlikely they would confide in him. But he was equally strident in claiming that screening the film was tantamount to “forcing” a certain ideology on kids.

“In a liberal free democracy, good education is about seeing alternative views. But don’t force those views onto other people, making them do things,” Powell said. “If we’re in a really good educational environment and we want to create and develop critical thinking, why don’t we show the film in one hour, and then show an alternative view in the next hour and let girls decide?”

In response, Greenwich pointed out that schoolkids “get that alternative view every single day of [their] lives, when [they’re] told about heteronormative relationships,” and said the film was important to show in schools because “young LGBTI people are one of the highest risk groups for youth suicide and mental illness.”

“What does that do to a kid who’s in a family with same-sex parents who are told that they’re not normal? Or a kid who’s raised by a single parent? Or by their grandparents?”

But Powell was seemingly unmoved, interrupting with: “It’s not about saving lives! It’s not about saving lives! It’s about promoting — it’s about political –” before Greenwich fired back, saying that Powell “obviously [doesn’t] understand how hard it is to be a gay kid in a high school.”

“I find it sad that you think families are political, that families raised by loving same-sex parents are political,” Greenwich said. “They’re not. They’re part of everyday society.”

From http://junkee.com/a-gay-mp-responded-brilliantly-to-a-pastor-who-thinks-gayby-baby-is-propaganda-on-the-project-last-night-4/64146#GkrmU8fjqYIoXHdv.99

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18 thoughts on “Pastor turns purple on Gayby Baby

  1. When the Pope visits – it is obviously like Christmas time with counterfeit Santa’s running around everywhere,

    It allows the Pope to get on with his real work, while the others concurrently meet people in all shopping centers and other events.

    Obviously there is inconsistency – so this Pope must have been one of the fake ones.

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  2. Looks like you aren’t friends any more.

    CNN Exclusive: Pope held private meeting with same-sex couple in U.S.

    “Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man, brought his partner, Iwan Bagus, as well several other friends to the Vatican Embassy on September 23 for a brief visit with the Pope. A video of the meeting shows Grassi and Francis greeting each other with a warm hug.

    In an exclusive interview with CNN, Grassi said the visit was arranged personally with the Pope via email in the weeks ahead of Francis’ highly anticipated visit to the United States

    “Three weeks before the trip, he called me on the phone and said he would love to give me a hug,” Grassi said.

    “I want to show the truth of who Pope Francis is,” he said.

    Pope Francis taught Grassi in literature and psychology classes at Inmaculada Concepcion, a Catholic high school in Sante Fe, Argentina, from 1964-1965. Grassi said that he is now an atheist.

    Grassi said the Pope has long known that he is gay, but has never condemned his sexuality or his same-sex relationship. In the video, Francis says he recalls meeting Grassi’s boyfriend in Rome.

    “He has never been judgmental,” Grassi said. “He has never said anything negative.”

    Grassi said that he asked for the meeting in Washington because the friends he brought along have been through difficult times and wanted to receive of a blessing from the pontiff.

    At the end the meeting, the Pope hugs both Grassi and Bagus and kisses them on the cheek.

    “Obviously he is the pastor of the church and he has to follow the church’s teachings,” Grassi added. “But as a human being he understands all kinds of situations, and he is open to all kinds of people, including those with different sexual characteristics.” ”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/pope-gay-washington/index.html

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  3. I actually looked up the meaning of the word “foible”. See that’s how much I respect your posts Greg. 🙂

    “a minor weakness or eccentricity in someone’s character.”

    I don’t think I have any foibles. My weaknesses and eccentricities are just way off the charts.

    In fact, I’m so bad that one of the only things I can boast about is that I wasn’t on the Ashleigh Madison list!

    Think I’ll get a T-shirt.

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  4. A catholic that is outraged by manipulation of scripture.

    Celibacy anyone? Transubstantiation? Priests can only have penises?

    Seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle gay.

    Come on Liony, you liked it when Hillsong went all mean to the gay. I detected a smile on your face.

    And why would you be nice to what Benedict XVI called an “intrinsic moral evil”.

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  5. Bones – Lionfish is outraged by all forms of manipulation of scripture whether it be ‘obligatory tithing’ or ‘new forms of marriage’.

    I do not endorse behavior that is ‘mean’ to people gay, straight or both.

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  6. “I am working on the basis that the Pope liked the pictures – the covert message obviously went over the old guys head.”

    So the pope is stupid.

    Cool.

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  7. “But everyone places the same game.”

    Or people are outraged by anything to do with equality in a secular multicultural society because Bible.

    Lionfish was outraged by Hillsong until they were mean to gays.

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  8. I am working on the basis that the Pope liked the pictures – the covert message obviously went over the old guys head.

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  9. But everyone places the same game. One crazy atheist student can get outraged about some BIble statue. or some kids in a public school singing silent night and saying people are outraged. Or some mother of one gay kid can talking about the outrage at a school over some guy talking about premarital sex. The gays have been doing this for years.

    as for the Pope he seems like a nice bloke to me. Except how can a man stay celibate that long. weird

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  10. Looks like the conspiracy goes to the top of the Catholic Church.

    Pope Francis sends letter praising gay children’s book

    Italian book that explores different family types including same sex was banned by mayor of Venice, but pontiff becomes unlikely supporter

    “Now Pardi has found an unlikely supporter in Pope Francis, who through his staff has written to the author praising her work. “His holiness is grateful for the thoughtful gesture and for the feelings which it evoked, hoping for an always more fruitful activity in the service of young generations and the spread of genuine human and Christian values,” wrote Peter B Wells, a senior official at the Vatican secretariat of state.

    The letter, dated 9 July and recently seen by the Guardian, was a response to a parcel of children’s books sent by Pardi to the pontiff in June. The collection from her publisher, Lo Stampatello, including seven or eight books which deal with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues (LGBT), was accompanied by a heartfelt letter from the author describing the attacks she has come under in recent months.

    “Many parishes across the country are in this period sullying our name and telling falsehoods about our work which deeply offends us,” she wrote. “We have respect for Catholics … A lot of Catholics give back the same respect, why can’t we have the whole hierarchy of the church behind us?””

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/pope-francis-sends-letter-praising-gay-childrens-book

    Maybe you need to talk to your boss.

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  11. If you do not think that there is an intentional agenda for Gay activists to push their propaganda onto young children then you are naive.

    “A primary grade lesbian teacher from an Ontario public school revealed in a workshop at a homosexual activist conference for teachers earlier this month how she uses her classroom to convince children as young as four to accept homosexual relationships.

    “And I started in Kindergarten. What a great place to start. It was where I was teaching. So, I was the most comfortable there,” Pam Strong said at the conference, attended by LifeSiteNews.

    The conference, hosted by the homosexual activist organization Jer’s Vision, now called the Canadian Centre for Gender and Sexual Diversity, focused on the implementation of Bill 13 in Ontario classrooms. Bill 13, called by critics the ‘homosexual bill of rights,’ passed in June 2012 and gave students the right to form pro-gay clubs in their school, including Catholic ones, using the name Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA).

    Strong, who is in an open relationship with another woman and who has been a teacher for about five years, focused her workshop on what she called the “power of conversation” for promoting LGBTQ issues in an elementary classroom. She began her talk by relating how she reacted the first time one of her students called another student ‘gay’ as a putdown”.

    More here: http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/04/lesbian-teacher-how-i-indoctrinate-kids-to-accept-gay-marriage-starting-at-4-years-old-2467760.html

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