The Monthly reports…
“This conversation between two great Australian political commentators, La Trobe University’s Emeritus Professor Robert Manne and The Project’s Waleed Aly, is part of La Trobe’s Bold Thinking public lecture series.
Aly discusses the rise of ISIS and Islamist extremism in general, including his thoughts on how the movement ought to be combated in parts of the Middle East where it has taken a stronghold.”
Group Sects 
“Neighbor: ‘About 30 Men’ Regularly Gathered to Pray at Suspected NYC Terrorist’s place”
Hmmm lovely. Just praying and talking about peace.
Any Anabaptists there?
Just glad I didn’t go there to “educate” myself like the Anglican Priest exhorted….
Anyway.
As Wally the Gold Logie Winner says
“Islam, what are we afraid of? “ only killed 8 ….
Stop whining and watch my show! If I win again Bundaberg teachers will deify me and hang my portrait on classroom walls.
Next prediction Priest. Trump will solve the North Korea problem by the end of the year.
And no – he won’t be impeached by then.
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Good news
“WITH new losses, the Islamic State group has been driven from more than 96 per cent of the large parts of Iraq and Syria it once held, crushing its goal of establishing a “caliphate” in the region.”
Would Gregorita and Bonehead know that?
Probably not..
Would they know about record stock markets, business confidence , consumer confidence, reductions in self trafficking?
Probably not.
Would they know about Donna Brazile and Elizabeth Warren stating categorically that Lying Crooked Evil Hillary rigged and stole the DNC election?
Probably not.
Why? Because major networks run by hypocritical liberals won’t tell them.
And Anglican priests have forfeited all integrity by allowing themselves to be led by the nose by liberal journalists and personalities.
After a year of Russia Russia and crying about the election what is the totally hypocritical democrat response to Hillary’s election rigging involving infringement of electoral laws?
Let’s move on from 2016….
Man.
You guys are totally morally and intellectually bankrupt.
Democrats are in total disarray now.
Trump still not impeached, still the President.
Hillary crying and hitching around the country on a book tour – except that DonnaBrazille’s book shows the internal corruption and pathetic actions of Lying Crooked Hillary.
This is hilarious.
Really.
Trump won.
And it’s just getting better.
Oh? Why did the Anglicans not pay out that settlement?
Was it really that they ….forgot?
Nah. My bet is they were building a safe space for Anglican Priests to cry in when they get upset over Trump tweets.
In other news Brazilian Catholics are thinking about allowing married priests – to counter the rise of Anglicans.
No … that was a joke.
The loss of people to evangelical churches.
So maybe the loser Anglican priests can jump ship to Rome when their Gravy Train totally disintegrates.
Yes, I got off track there.
Lol
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Did I read correctly? On a thread on an anti-Christian hate site about why there is nothing to be afraid of Islam – one commenter gives yet another example of Islamic violence and killing.
Which leads some Anglican Priest to paste anti-Trump tweets regarding the casino shootings.
Where the hell do Anglican priests study these days???
Such is the hatred of Trump that the priest has to paste tweets about him thinking that somehow makes Islamic terrorism less of a problem .
Do priests weave Trump bashing into every sermon or something?
Oh but if you want to talk about Trump – catch his latest tweets about Hillary.
Donna Brazille’s book is pretty funny eh!!!
All about that criminal Hillary and her shameful actions towards Bernie Sanders!
Disgraceful.
But this is the woman who told reporters she was shot at, deleted 30’000 emails and convinced gullible naive liberals fools (even clergy) that the Benghazi was about a Youtube video., – oh and who is a pinup girl in Anglican seminary locker rooms.
Nice try Priest. But trump is looking better day by day.
And Hillary is looking worse.
So, are the priests in Newcastle going to be shouting at the sky in that big protests??
Smh
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IDIOT LIBERALS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANOTHER 8 DEATHS.
The NYC Muslim terrorist came to the US under a diversity visa lottery.
This was the dumb idea of a dumb Democrat. Probably liberal Anglican priests thought this was a splendid idea!
So the latest Muslim terrorist came on this and brought 23 other people with him.
Next idiotic liberal failure was that the mosque he attended was under surveillance by the FBI.
But a liberal mayor gets in and thinks this is raising tensions and is misogynist etc etc. And to the delight of idiotic liberal Christians everywhere the surveillance is stopped.
A few years later he runs over people in the streets in a truck!
Saying of course “Allahu Akbar” which our resident insane anti-Semite school teacher informed us is what Christians could say in worship services.
The idiocy of liberals would be funny – IF their moronic decisions weren’t resulting in death and maiming of innocent people.
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Does the Priest have a night job as a CNN reporter?
He just can’t bring himself to say that the low down vile murderer had a big beard and yelled Allahu Akbar and looked like a ….
If he were white ….
At least he could have said he was driving a “Peace Truck” as a hint….
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Gee thanks Priest.
Now I understand . Wally the Muslim was right.
There’s nothing to be afraid of.
Islam is indeed a religion of peace!!
All the burning of churches, bombings, rapings, beheadings, genital mutilations, running over people with trucks – why that’s just … eh. ….
Nothing to do with that nice man from the mosque.
Okay, I actually watched 10 minutes of that.
Completely boring.
What was I supposed to hear??
I’ve studied Islam, been to a mosque, had lunch with and been friends with Muslims?
What was in after the 10 minute mark?
You object to me posting news about men killing while shouting praise to Allah ?
On a site devoted for years to daily and weekly news reports attacking Hillsong, C3, Catholics, Anglicans and any supposed Christian who did something wrong in the world? ???
Sites that you were on for years commenting with disdain against churches???
And for some weird reason Mr Group Sects writes positively about Islam???
That’s either hypocrisy or raging hatred or maybe stupidity?
What did I learn from that colossal waste of time?
1. Canadian Anabaptists are trying to be cool and funny and … succeed in having lots of hair
2. Lay-Sunnis in Toronto are 100 times more polite and sophisticated than Newcastle Anglican priests.
Ok and now for something completely different
“The New Jersey mosque that New York City terror suspect Sayfullo Saipov reportedly attended has been under surveillance by the New York Police Department since 2005, according to a published report.”
This evil murdering Muslim attended a mosque and got in on a “diversity visa”.
So….
Come to Greg’s church.
Music by The Aboriginal Dreamtime Didgeridoo Praise Band followed by the message by a delightful Sunni Muslim from Toronto.
Pikelets and tea served by Father Gregory. (Because …. what would he preach about? He already preached too many messages against Trump last month, and the homosexual deacons are asking him to go quiet about the unspeakable joy of boy love because they’re organizing a march against Kevin Spacey .
Priest … read the Bible and pray sometimes.
It’s not as horrid and outdated as you think!
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My imaginary super hero is better than your imaginary super hero.
Nah, na, nah, na, nah, nah.
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Here Q – maybe this will help educate you:
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A disturbing hate-speech-laden video has emerged, from a mosque in Pakuranga, Auckland, which promotes Holocaust denial and calls for the destruction of Israel.
The remarks were made by a diplomat and counsellor at the Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Iran in New Zealand, Mr Hormoz Ghahremani (pictured above), together with an Iranian cleric, Sheik Shafie, and a New Zealand Muslim leader, Sayed Taghi Derhami. Mr Ghahremani was introduced at the event as the First Secretary of the Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Iran, New Zealand.
The video, from June 2017, is from the Islamic Ahlulbayt Foundation of New Zealand event, held in Auckland in commemoration of Al-Quds day. This commemoration was described in the video by the Wellington-based Iranian diplomat as “a symbolic day of unity of Muslims against Israel” and by Sheik Shafie as a chance to “deal a powerful punch to the mouth of the cancerous tumour known as evil Israel”. In the video, the Sheik also said:
“We all know that the whole existence of Israel is fabricated around the question of Holocaust. And the Holocaust is that phenomenon that in itself is not allowed to be investigated and found out what it is. I have quite a few questions in this regard. First, if this Holocaust took place in the second world war in Europe then why not distribute the documents concerning this and let people see for themselves…. It all shows that there is a big scheme and conspiracy to establish the bigger scheme of occupying from the Nile to the Euphrates, which is their final objective.”
Sheik Shafie
The speakers not only denied the Holocaust but they also called for the destruction of Israel. Sheik Shafie quoted Ayatollah Khomeini, saying “if Muslims get together and each one pour a glass of water over Israel, the flood will wash it away”. Mr Derhami said that Israel is a “cancerous tumour” that had to be “surgically removed”, and the Iranian diplomat said the “sinister phenomena of terrorism and extremism in the [Arab] region” are “fuelled and fanned by the enemies of Islam and the Zionist circles.”
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Islamic leaders are calling on Muslims to boycott school meals in the county of Lancashire, after it became the first local authority to refuse to supply non-stunned Halal meat to council-run establishments.
Totally insane.
Send them back to Mecca
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World judo championship on at the moment – at Abu Dhabi. Miserable Muslims won’t play the Israeli anthem . And instead of shaking hands when they lose they run away from Israeli athletes.
Pathetic. Disgusting. Miserable.
I’ve seen more maturity anti-Semitic Bundaberg school teachers!
Typical.
The world should be outraged.
But no.
Since media is run by left-wing bafoons who are almost as hypocritical as Newcastle Anglican priests there is silence.
No honor in Islam.
Go Israel! Shalom!
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An Islamist attack on a hotel in the Somali capital ended on Sunday after 25 people had been killed in a near 12-hour siege, police said, underlining the insurgents’ ability to carry out deadly attacks in the heart of the city.
“The death toll rises to 25 people including police, hotel guards and residents. The death toll may rise. We suspect some other militants disguised themselves and escaped with the residents who were rescued,” police officer Major Mohamed Hussein told Reuters.
“Three militants were captured alive and two others blew up themselves after they were shot,” he added.
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A gang of 12 mostly-Muslim men from the Rotherham area have appeared in court to face 45 sexual abuse offences against eight girls under the age of 16.
The men are accused of rape, indecent assault, the supply of controlled drugs, and false imprisonment as part of Operation Stovewood, which was set up in the wake of the Rotherham grooming gang scandal.
The men, all aged between 33 and 38, allegedly committed the crimes between 1998 and 2003, The Star reports.
Amjal Rafiq, 38, Nabeel Kurshid, 34, Iqlak Yousaf, 33, Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar, 36, Tanweer Ali, 36, Aftab Hussain, 38, and Abid Saddiq, 36, all appeared at Sheffield Magistrates Court Wednesday.
They were joined by co-defendants Sharaz Hussain, 33, Salah Ahmed El-Hakam, 38, Mohammed Ashan, 33, Masaeud Malik, 33, and Waseem Khaliq, 33.
Nine of them were granted bail, while Mr. Ashan, Mr. Malik, and Mr. Khaliq were remanded in custody after appearing via video link. All 12 will next appear at Sheffield Crown Court on December 1st.
Senior Investigating Officer, Paul Williamson, told the Star: “We have now charged 21 men with over 94 child sexual abuse offences and expect this number to increase as more victims come forward.
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Who’s afraid of girly Islamic men. Come to my neighborhood, we’ll chop off their tiny Muslim knobs. Allah dickbar.
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In certain no-go zones, police have been brutally attacked, some of which has even been caught on video. In Rinkeby, police have been trying to build a new, more secure police station for months but have been unable to find building contractors due to the danger of working in the area.
80 Per Cent Of Swedish Police Consider Quitting Over Migrant Danger
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Sex assaults up in Austria by 26% in a year.
44% if them by migrants.
Quick quiz
The migrants were mostly
(a) Anglicans
(b) Muslims
(c) Adherents to Islam
(d) F＠#＆＠ You’re a F@$& racist
Waleed, Austrian women are afraid.
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News.com.au and other liberals down under don’t seem to care but 230 Somalians were killed and more than that wounded the other day.
Yes. Over 500 blown to bits and maimed.
Not just beheaded this time.
Hundreds of kilograms of explosives detonated in Mogadishu.
Al-Shabab – no they aren’t Buddhists. Hindus? No.
Christians? Of course not.
Another extremist Islamic group.
Gold Logie Winner and latest sex symbol among Bundaberg teachers – Wally the Muslim asks “Islam -what are we afraid of?
And many people burying their dead and crying in hospitals answer “a lot!”
Now Explorer Pants and Greg the Explorer Priest think it’s strange for this latest atrocity to be mentioned. Why isn’t someone commenting about that poor man who was accidentally born a woman and got sneered at for wearing a pink dress in Newcastle. “What about him?!” They scream before descending into a cacophony of foul vile language and reaching for Valium to help with the stress of the looming homosexual marriage vote deadline.
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The knifeman is believed to have shouted “Allahu Akbar” (God is Greatest) before assaulting passers-by, a source close to the investigation told AFP on condition of anonymity.
One of the victims had her throat slit, according to officials, with the stabbing rampage sparking a mass evacuation.
Remember that time when that Bisexual Bundaberg Teacher said he was going to start saying “Allah Akbar” in church.
Why even bother reporting what he said. Slitting throats in a train station?
Probably not Quakers!
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Man screaming ‘Allahu Akbar’ kills 2 women at Marseille train station in suspected terror attack –
Wally? Father Gregorita? Bundaberg?
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MUSLIM MURDER AND MAYHEM IN MUSLIM PARADISR”
Canada??? In Canada??
I’m not surprised . There are Muslims there.
But Father Gregorita is scratching his bald head. Hmmm Why Canada? They are liberal. They rolled out the red carpet for Muslims up there?
No Greg has no answers . Well, he has no real answers anyway, but this time he’s stumped!
Bones is perplexed . He loves Canada’s dreamboat PM and can’t imagine why Muslims wouldn’t be happy there.
But if the truth is known , Bones is still too excited after the entertainment at the grand final .
Same Love … sung in the place where Bones first homosexual crush took place over that he-man Ian Roberts!
“Oh heart be thtill “, said Bones to himself.
Unfortunately he didn’t spot Ian in the crowd. But just seeing those rainbows at the footy got old Bones juices flowing again.
Why aren’t I surprised?
Simple . Where there are Muslims in any great numbers there will be rape, murder, attempts to take over.
But Wally isn’t afraid of Islam. Of course not!!
He can’t wait for it to take over!
Oh Canada….
A TERRORIST ran away after he rammed a police car before stabbing an officer several times, and then used a truck to run down nearby pedestrians in Canada.
Canadian police have confirmed a police officer from Edmonton was stabbed near Commonwealth Stadium and four pedestrians were later injured by a fleeing truck.
The first incident happened when the man crashed a car into a police barricade outside the stadium, where the Edmonton Eskimos were hosting Winnipeg on Canadian Forces Appreciation Night.”
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Sweden and islam
The town of Falkenberg felt it necessary to split asylum accommodation by gender after a number of cases of sexual abuse in order to prevent further abuse of young girls.
In the city of Uppsala last year, five underage Afghani migrants are said to have brutally raped a boy under the age of 15 and filmed it on their smartphones. The victim in the case was also an Afghani and was held at knifepoint as the assault lasted for over an hour.
Reports have also alleged that the vast majority, nine out of 10, of gang rapes are committed by men with migrant backgrounds. Many of the gang rape cases also involved underage children.
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“Liberal Swedish journalist who worked to show the beauty of Islam in the country gets SHOT in an Islamic NO-GO Zone”
Rotfl – like the Australia 60 mins crew.
What next. Newcastle Anglican priests get beaten up in a no-go zone after wearing rainbow colored robes and pink hats while singing “we are the world” in an effort to show that the latest Left-wing copy and paste job was actually …. chuckle … sound research, and uniting with the Muslims to show they are basically the same religion anyway.
Ok. Back to Oprah.
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Islam: what are we afraid of?
Muslim festivals in Progress Park – if you’re a girl on your own…
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Great news! Take that Priest! The Swedes are fighitng back!! Go Swedes!
Swedish electoral authorities have refused to register the Muslim-led “Jasin” party from taking part in next year’s Swedish election after radical Islamists had tried to take it over.
The Muslim party announced last week it would field candidates in next year’s Swedish national election and sought to register as an official Swedish political party.
The agency refused after not receiving the proper paperwork – but that might be the least of the party’s problems as it tries to cope with its more radical members, Swedish newspaper Varlden Idag reports.
Spokesman Mehdi Hosseini said: “We have had some problems in our party. Radicals tried to take over.” When asked if there were Muslims within his party who would like to see Sweden subject to Shariah law, he replied that there were.
Shariah Law???? Hear that Priest. Idiot Muslims in Sweden want Sharia Law!!!
Come on moderate Muslims, and bible believing Anglicans – wake up!
Now Shariah Law in Newcastle might not be such a bad idea.,,,,,
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A MAJOR terrorist attack in Australia is inevitable, according to one of the country’s most senior police officers.
“I don’t like to say it but it will happen. It’s inevitable,” NSW assistant commissioner for counter-terrorism Mark Murdoch has told News Corp Australia.
“Despite everything that is being done and the good work that law enforcement and intelligence is doing, without wanting to create unnecessary fear within the community, it’s going to happen.” The 37-year police veteran, who will retire in November, said it was impossible to prevent extremist groups exploiting social media to lure young recruits who are almost completely unknown to authorities.
Ha!!?!?
Didn’t this guy listen to Wally the Muslim Gold Logie winner and Father Copynpaste?
You mean people are actually worried about things
Hmmm another one trick pony?
Neigh neigh
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One trick pony?
I sporadically list news about Islamic violence – raping, bearing, burning, bombing of women , children – destruction of churches -terrorist attacks in multiple countries on an article called “Islam what are we afraid of”
A normal fair person would see that as normal.
The Priest calls that being a one trick pony…
Strange reasoning.
If the article were “The brutal honesty of Bill and Hillary Clinton” it would be normal to list the well documented repeated lies and cover ups of these two”
That wouldn’t be being a one trick pony.
It’s called commenting on topic.
Speaking of that – more women disagree with Wally the Muslim..
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Two Afghan asylum seekers were arrested for the brutal rape, and a third for attempted rape, of a 16-year-old girl in the Bavarian town of Höhenkirchen-Siegertsbrunn just south of Munich.
The pair of asylum seekers, aged 27 and 17, are said to have met the girl on Friday night along with others who gathered in front of a local asylum shelter. The pair, along with an 18-year-old Afghan male, walked the girl to a nearby train station where the 27-year-old and 17-year-old took turns raping her, Der Spiegel reports.
The 18-year-old Afghan asylum seeker also attempted to rape the girl but before he could a local resident appeared and scared the three migrants away.
Shortly after the incident, police engaged in a major search for the suspects deploying a helicopter on the scene. The men were arrested shortly thereafter.
The 16-year-old victim of the attack suffered injuries but was not hospitalised as a result of the assault.
The rape is the latest in Bavaria after a number of high-profile sex attacks in the last several months. Last month, a 47-year-old from Afghanistan was sentenced to a 15-month suspended term by a court in Augsburg after he was found guilty of sexually abusing multiple children, some of which were as young as five.
So Priest.
Bavarian parents of girls are afraid of Muslim migrants.
Please use your smooth ecclesiastic tones and reassure them.
Hint . Drop the lightning thing.
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Okay my work is finished here.
Lol
Total and complete annihilation.
Good luck with the Priest gig Greg. Behave!
Give my regards to the Teacher. Bid him Thalom (see what I did there?)
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Here’s what I’d love to do.
Send all the liberal anti-evangelical Muslim-loving nutjobs in a city. Build a wall around it.
Tell all the Muslims they are welcome .
Then just mention to the Muslims that these liberals are all for homosexual marriage and love to swear and blaspheme and make fun of religion.
Then just let the fun begin.
Wouldn’t take five minutes and the fat old white liberals would be SOSing and begging Trump to save them.
ROTFL
The ultimate quick cure for left-wing psychosis and Trump Obsession Derangement Disorder.
Sunday Night Live would be a good name for a comedy show making fun of the parade of liberal dummies and the absurd things they say and believe!
Can I crowd-fund here?
Anglican priests and Bundaberg teachers should have plenty of spare cash!
And you guys can have lots of cameo roles!
You’d become famous!
Bones might even get a GOLD LOGIE!
(Esp if we keep his anti-Semitic website posts under wraps)
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The Priest did some wacky copy/paste hack job trying desperately to downplay Muslim rape in Europe.
Okay, I’ll respond.
Remember Cologne.
Here’s something from Wikipedia.
And no Father Gregory, Wikipedia isn’t owned by Trump. It’s not run by Nazis, and they aren’t white supremacists. So can it with the usual liberal conspiracy theory smear tactics!
All of the incidents involved women being surrounded and assaulted by groups of men on the street.[29][30] Police reported that the perpetrators were men of “Arab or North African appearance” and said that Germany had never experienced such mass sexual assaults before.[20][30][31][32][33] The German Federal Criminal Police Office said the incidents were a phenomenon known in some Arab countries as taharrush jamai (translated as “group sexual harassment”).[34][35][36] The attacks sparked an international outcry, a debate about women’s rights, the sustainability of Germany’s asylum policy, and social differences between European societies and those of North Africa and the Middle East. Taking place during the European migrant crisis (see timeline), the attacks also led to a hardening of attitudes against immigration.[37]
Chief Prosecutor Ulrich Bremer stated that “the overwhelming majority” of suspects were asylum seekers and illegal immigrants who had recently arrived in Germany.[38][39] Only a small number of the alleged perpetrators have been identified. By 9 April, police in Cologne had identified 153 suspects, 24 of whom were in investigative custody.[8][9][11][2][40] Almost all of the suspects of the Cologne crimes were non-Germans; two-thirds of them from Morocco or Algeria. 68 suspects were asylum seekers; 18 were residing in Germany illegally, and the legal status of 47 others was unclear. Four suspects were underage, unaccompanied refugees.[11][41][42][43][44][45] By July, four perpetrators had been convicted,[24] and it was reported that half of the 120 outstanding suspects had been in Germany for less than a year,[25] most of them from North Africa.[46]
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“OFFICIALS had been warned about the teen held over the London Tube bucket bomb, it emerged yesterday as new CCTV footage was revealed.
The increasingly radical views of the 18-year-old Iraqi orphan were said to have led to a tip-off to the anti-terror hotline, Prevent, reports The Sun.”
Okay here’s the problem.
A Muslim becomes increasingly devout and talks menacingly criticizing Trumo, the West , Christianity , white privilege. People report him. But what can the police do?
1. He belongs to the religion of peace so they have to be careful
2. He says exactly the same things as left-wing liberal anti-Christianity Newcastle Anglican priests.
So they let him go….
Then
BOOM!!
Pain, fear , chaos, panic, destruction.
Who cares says the priest. Let’s get the yes vote out so homosexuals can feel all legal and moral during their next bout of anal sex.
After all – you have more chance of being hit by lightning – and I’m a priest who has advocated every sexual sin in the Bible as being oh jolly good and I havent been hit by lightning.
Leave the Muslim terrorists alone says the priest. Bash Trump and bible believing evangelicals – they’re the real menace.
Now … back to my Huffington Post – it’s so much more inspiring than the common book of prayer – how dreary!
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More of the rape epidemic in Muslim overrun Germany.
“Four asylum seekers have been arrested by police in Dessau, Germany after being suspected of gang raping a 56-year-old woman on the grounds of a former vocational school last month.”
After a rape of a jogger in broad daylight German women were advised to jog in pairs.
What’s that? The Priest says it’s not fair to pin all sex crimes on Muslims in Germany?
Anglican Clergy in Newcastle were bad too??
Yeah, I guess you have a point there…
But you guys didn’t violently do it in packs at least.
And you’re paying the victims. Hardly the same .
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You know what’s hilarious? Greg, Bones and Wazza watch comedians making fun of conservatives al the time.
But fight fire with Fire and they can’t handle it. Just like all bullies and thugs. I should start a TV show!
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AUSSIES SCARED OF BEING MURDERED FOR LEAVING THE RELIGION OF PEACE
(Is this like the fear liberal Anglicans have if they openly say they believe the Bible??)
Joke – kind of !
But what’s below is not funny.
Well Wally the Muslim and Gregory the leftist Priest – EVEN MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID!!
I call on Waleed to melt down his GOLD LOGIE and donate the proceeds to rescue the Muslims living in fear of Muslims.
Read on …..
URWA* used to love her religion and once believed her faith was unshakeable.
Born into a conservative Muslim family in Australia, she now lives a secret double life and no longer calls herself a believer.
The young woman is among a secret group of Australians turning their backs on conservative forms of Islam.
However, as her experience shows, leaving the life she has known for so long remains far from easy.
The 25-year-old’s “sin list” of everything she’s never done are things most Australians don’t even think about like listening to
“I want to take my hijab off,” she tells The Feed’s Patrick Abboud.
“It will be the biggest decision I’ve ever made in my life so far but I’m terrified I don’t know what the consequences will be.
“I feel so trapped. I’m terrified of someone finding out I’m ex-Muslim, I feel like I’m carrying around a ticking time bomb.”
She said the best case scenario if her friends and family found out about her true intentions would be that she’s disowned.
“Worst case — I will be murdered,” she said.
Abboud gained exclusive access inside a secret network of young ex-Muslims who are turning their back on Islam. He reveals what happens when people walk away.
Some are living double lives out of fear of reprisals.
Okay that’s enough.
Deep down Greg and Bones know the truth. But you couldn’t get them to admit they’re wrong anymore than you could pry an Ian Roberts centerfold out of Bones sweaty palms.
Or get Father Gregory to tell homosexuals that penises were made for vaginas and not men’s anuses.
Oooh. Now that was offensive huh? You can swear your head off and cuss out evangelical’s …. but don’t touch Greg’s sacred male anal sex!
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Hey Priest, wanna hear something hilarious?
You hate Trump right?
Remember he made that terrible statement about Sweden and Muslim immigrants?
Yeah – you were outraged!
So we’re the Muslims in Sweden. They started rioting.
And just to show I can link like an Anglican …. lol
So if Trump there were no-go zones in Newcastle would the Anglicans riot?? Lol
https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/21/riots-erupt-in-swedens-capital-just-days-after-trump-comments/
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Btw Priest,
I was so kind I didn’t mention the London tube terrorist attack carried out by a Muslim refugee.
I thought given the timing you would have felt like a goose.
But I’d really want you to start thinking . He’s a start..
1. Read up articles by holocaust deniers. They quote all kinds of statistics and statements. But it’s absurd.
Same with Japanese nationalists who dismiss the Rape of Nanking. Facts and figures and eye witness reports showing that nothing happened – when every knows it did.
So you could probably post more articles – but you need to read more widely.
And even read the articles you post. Read carefully EVERY paragraph of the snopes article. And think!
Then reread CAREFULLY the 3 or 4 random people from the no-go zone (sorry – I should be politically correct and call them “vulnerable” zones)
One said “don’t just listen to the police” . Huh??? I thought the police all said everything was just going along swimmingly ?
Read, Priest. And talk to normal people.
And go spend a week in a Sweden “vulnerable zone” with your wife and daughters.
You won’t do it will you!
Okay, go back to your parish meeting where you discuss free hearing aids for what’s left of the congregations.
Nah, the old faithful Anglicans don’t actually like what’s happening.
Ask them . And just don’t dismiss them because they haven’t been enlightened by Spong and some Homosexual Episcopalian theologians who think the Apostle’s Creed was a quaint folksong.
Bye bye.
I’ll let you get back to helping out with the new mosque .
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GFYS says the Anglican Priest from the infamous Newcastle diosece after copying and pasting from liberal websites.
The priest should reread the very articles he posted – esp the Snopes one.
You live in a liberal bubble don’t you Priest.
Which is great because all you have to do is regurgitate liberal and feminist articles and have tea with some people in eccleasiastic high places and because the Anglican Church (outside of Sydney) is descending further and further into irrelevancy , you could even end up as the Grand Pooh Bah and put on a silly hat and carry a staff and pontificate copying the Pope.
Priest, read your articles again. Then read other sources. Then meet some actual Swedes. Do you know any? Ask them.
Read what police say. Watch actual videos.
Pasting a few accounts of errors is just silly.
There were some Jews who falsely claimed to have escaped from Auschwitz. That would have made you tut tut and go back to high tea with your collaborating Roman Catholic friends back in the day.
Hey pastor Houston – I think you should start aHillsong in Newcastle.
There’s no competition from the Anglicans there.
Maybe you can ask that ultra-feminist idiot you quoted can give a donation to the Newcastle Anglican Child Abuse Fund.
Oh and Muslms? Refugees? Load up and head for Newcastle! Thats the place to be!!
Please – leave everywhere else and go and live in Newmecca. I mean Newcastle.
There’s a priest dumb enough to think crime will GO DOWN based on his wholehearted scholarly research of liberal websites….
Echo chamber?
Lol
Once again it’s the same.
The kooky liberals copy and post from some random Swedish liberal feminists and follow up with horrible language. That’s the state of liberal Christianity today.
I read that ….. so #%€#%.
Steve quoted the Bible and original thought. You guys just posted left-wing propaganda and insulted. He left.
I know the Bible means nothing to you, so I just post my own words. You guys post left-wing (and sometimes anti-Semitic ) propaganda and insult.
Intellectually bankrupt left-wing hacks who have nothing to say and have no grasp of reality.
One trick pony?
Nah, I can talk about the insanity of boys becoming girls and still suiciding or two lesbians raising a boy and all the things that you think are great for society.
But I thought I’d stick to the Wally article.
After all -He’s got a GOLD LOGIE and Bones never misses an episode. He’s going for swarthy men now….
I won’t say GFYS.
I’ll say, go and enjoy a delightful time of tea and crumpets with the archbishop and telll him your ideas about Germaine Greer video segments in sermons.
God help the Anglicans
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Vote NO.
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So there you go Q – you’re a trump loving fake news spreading Islamophobic twit – a one trick pony with no actual basis to anything you say. GFYS
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Does Sweden have an immigrant rape crisis?
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Banning immigrants from Muslim-majority countries is one of the cornerstones of Donald Trump’s response to terrorism, and one heartily supported by his core supporters. On Feb. 18, 2017 he spoke at a rally of those supporters in Melbourne, FL and defended this policy defended that plan with the claim that,
“We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening. We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers [of refugees]. They’re having problems like they never thought possible…”
The comment raised many eyebrows because nothing happened in Sweden on Feb. 17, or any date leading up to it. Trump isn’t exactly known for being well-spoken or informed, so the White House was forced to respond with the usual damage control that always seems to be required when he speaks in public. Eventually it was discovered that yet again he had misspoken and was referring to claims he’d misheard during a Fox News segment that had aired the previous evening, not an actual incident. Backtracking only made matters worse of course, so after a day or two he went back to what he knows best–the red meat Twitter offensive,
“Give the public a break – The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!”
The incident put Sweden back under the same 2016 election year spotlight that made it the Far-Right’s poster child for why everything that’s wrong with the world is the fault of dark-skinned people from non-Christian nations, and how a new age of peace and prosperity will dawn if we would only ship them all off to internment camps on the most remote wind-blown rock in the Aleutians. Fake news and propaganda sites have published one story after another about Sweden’s “rape crisis” (Perlmutter, 2017; Craig, 2017; Thorn, 2016; etc.). A widely circulated Facebook meme alleged that a 14-year-old Swedish girl had been kidnapped, tortured, and gang-raped by three refugees. Swedish police were said to be handing out “don’t touch me” bracelets to women to prevent “migrant sex attacks” (Hale, 2016; Gehl, 2017).
None of this checks out of course. The 14-year-old girl turned out to be German rather than Swedish, and later copped to having made the allegations up (LaCapria, 2016b). Furthermore, the image in the circulated meme wasn’t even her–it had been posted to Flickr by a girl hoping to win a “Little Picture of the Year” contest. The bracelet campaign was part of a larger sexual harrassment awareness program that had nothing to do with any alleged refugee rape crisis (LaCapria, 2016c). Interestingly, many of these stories (including three of those cited above) feature the collage shown below of praying Muslims and what are purported to be Swedish women who were beaten and raped by immigrants.
Alleged Swedish rape victims & Muslims
Reverse image searches reveal that the blonde woman figuring most prominently in it was taken from a stock photo published by an online royalty-free image collective.
Battered woman stock photo – photo4design.com
There’s no evidence the model is even Swedish, much less actually abused. It’s more likely she’s an aspiring starlet with a good make-up artist, and a regular at Malibu Beach.
The Fox segment Trump referred to was an even bigger spectacle. In it Tucker Carlson interviews Ami Horowitz, a media personality and film-maker who recently completed a short documentary alleging that “rape and violence has exploded across Sweden due it’s immigration policies.” During the interview Horowitz made numerous statements that within days were debunked as unsubstantiated rumors or outright falsehoods (Aftonbladet, 2017; Baker & Chan, 2017; Chan, 2017; Farley, 2017). The documentary not only repeated these falsehoods, but contained numerous edits that appear to have been deliberately misleading. For instance, its first 20 seconds include a slow pan across a BBC headline (“Sweden’s rape rate under the spotlight”) but conspicuously avoids the article’s content. However the title, author, and date (briefly visible) are enough for a Google search of the original article (Alexander, 2012) where we find the accompanying byline;
“The Julian Assange extradition case has put Sweden’s relatively high incidence of rape under the spotlight. But can such statistics be reliably compared from one country to another?” [My emphasis]
The article goes on from there to explain in depth why they can’t. “In the spotlight” was merely a rhetorical device to pique readers’ interest, but Horowitz would have us believe it was an indictment. When I first pulled the article up, this byline appeared on my screen barely an inch below the portion scanned in the documentary, and in bold print. Compare the portion of the article the documentary pans across,
Horowitz
with this highlighted screenshot from the original,
The original BBC Sweden
No reasonable person could’ve missed the article’s message or content, unless the intent was to deliberately mislead the audience. Soon after the documentary’s release two policemen who were interviewed in it accused Horowitz of deliberately editing their comments to misrepresent their statements and called him a “madman.” A review of the final edits by the documentary’s cameramen confirmed their claims (Lindkvist, 2017; 2017b). Horowitz denies all of this of course, but as of this writing he still refuses to provide the original raw footage for comparison (Lindkvist, 2017c). Horowitz also claims to have been beaten by a “gang of immigrants” while filming for the documentary in Stockholm’s Husby district (Robinson, 2016). But not surprisingly, there’s no actual footage of the alleged attack–only a blank screen with audio and a few words of what is claimed to be “Arabic.” And of course, Horowitz emerged from this traumatic ordeal with no apparent injuries. To date, no independent evidence whatsoever suggests the attack wasn’t staged, or if it did happen, that the assailants were actually Muslim immigrants.
Needless to say, these shenanigans only increased the documentary’s popularity on social media and in the usual Far-Right tabloids.
Shenanigans aside, here’s what actually is true. Sweden does have the highest number of registered rape offenses in Europe, and has so for some time (UNODC, 2013; Brå, 2016). But a number of statistical, substantive, and legal factors render the differences almost meaningless. First, in Sweden crimes are registered when they are first reported, before their true classifications have been verified. As such, and act first registered as rape will retain that classification in published crime statistics even if it ends up being reclassified or charges are later dropped. Furthermore, rape charges are also handled in a substantively different manner than elsewhere. In the United States for instance, a man who assault his wife or girlfriend, say, 20 times might be given a single rape charge, whereas in Sweden he wuld be charges with 20 rapes. Second, even by First World standards Sweden is an overtly feminist society and their laws and social norms are correspondingly more liberal. In Sweden, the definition of rape includes groping, and there are fewer social stigmas associated with reporting it. Here in the United States a significant number of sexual assaults go unreported because of the shame attached to them. Rape victims are often accused of being “slutty” behavior that somehow led their attackers on, and are considered “soiled” by it. The Swedes have little patience for such excuses, or for “locker room banter” about sexual assault of any kind–to them, “no” damn well means NO! As such, rape tends to be overreported in Sweden compared to other First World nations (Von Hofer, 2000; Brå, 2017).
In other words, the main reason rape is more “prevalent” in Sweden is that they don’t make excuses for men like Donald Trump or his bragging about “[grabbing] them by the p***y, ” they arrest them!
If Swedish law were implemented in the United States, our rape stats would likely be worse than theirs… and our current ruler would be in prison where he belongs rather than the White House. As for immigrants and Sweden’s crime trends, those alleged correlations disappear on closer examination as well. There are several chronically recurring factors in Far-Right xenophobic fake news, but among the more common are scientific and mathematical illiteracy, especially where statistics are involved. For instance, one repeatedly sees videos and alleged eyewitness accounts of isolated incidents from which sweeping generalizations are made, or graphs in which some trend (like crime) is plotted against a single variable such as nationality hailed as “proof” of a direct correlation between the two. A few weeks ago a friend posted the two graphs below in a Facebook comment thread.
Overall Swedish crime rates by national origin.
Unsourced Swedish crime percentages.
The first was said to be from “Mother Jones” and the second from “SCS.” No other specifics were given regarding their origins or content, but I was able to trace the first to a Feb. 17, 2017 article in the online edition of Mother Jones (Drum, 2017), and the second to the Swedish Crime Survey (Brå, 2016), which my friend had dubbed “SCS.” As he originally posted it neither the ordinate, nor the title of the latter were labeled leaving us to wonder what percentages were even being shown. But even so, I was able to track down the original research behind both for the context and detail that were omitted here. The latter figure as it appears in the original publication is below,
Swedish offences against individual person: 2005-2015 (Martens & Holmberg, 2005) .
Several things are immediately apparent. First, the long-term regressed trends of the violent crimes shown are almost flat, and if anything trending downward. The few spikes present are easily accounted for by reporting noise and/or socio-economic factors unrelated to immigrant status. In particular, the 2015 spike in rape was almost certainly a result of the fact that the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reclassified reporting of sexual offences that year to broaden the definition of rape (Valverde, 2017). It would be surprising if there wasn’t a resulting spike, even if the number of actual crimes remained unchanged. Comparison of these trends with Sweden’s immigration records (Wikipedia, 2017) reveals no discernable correlation whatsoever between the two.
But what about the first figure? Doesn’t it show that immigrants are committing the lion’s share of Sweden’s violent crimes? The figures shown there are clearly labeled as being for the period of 1997 to 2001–almost a decade before any of the recent immigration waves the Far-Right is intent on blaming immigrants for. In the uncited article my friend borrowed it from we find the following directly above it,
“Sure enough… He linked to an old report that tallies crime rates for the years 1997-2001—which is all but useless in 2017…” (Drum, 2017 – My emphasis)
It seems my friend conveniently overlooked the “useless in 2017” part in his own source before sharing it. A check of the original source Drum obtained both figures from (Martens & Holmberg, 2005) reveals the following,
“The high level of relative risk noted among North Africans does not however mean that persons from North Africa are responsible for a large proportion of the offences that are linked to crime suspects in Sweden. On the contrary they account for a very small proportion of these offences. The groups that dominate in this regard are those from the Nordic countries.” (My emphasis)
In other words, the bulk of Sweden’s immigrant “rape crisis” is due to Scandinavians, not dark-skinned people from Muslim-majority countries!
When demographic, socio-economic, and other factors are properly accounted for, the relationships between their crime statistics by race and/or immigrant status are no different than what one would find in poor minority communities in America. Yet again, there’s nothing here but reptile-brain, xenophobic agitprop. No meaningful relationship of any kind whatsoever exists between being a Muslim immigrant and being a low-life scumbag.
It’s depressing, and alarming to think that that so many otherwise decent human beings can be so fear-driven and hungry for an excuse to hate dark-skinned people with different beliefs, that they’ll devour any vicious, incompetently researched rumor fed to them about those folks… without so much as 30 seconds of the due diligence they would demand if they were slandered strangers in a foreign land.
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Fressgas, in Frankfurt’s city centre, where the purported mass assault took place Google
Prosecutors are investigating two people for allegedly fabricating an account of a mass sex attack by Arab migrants in Frankfurt.
Claims that a “sex rioting mob” of around 50 men assaulted a group of women over the new year were reported by German tabloid Bild earlier this month.
The report, which suggested the attackers lived at a refugee shelter in central Hasse, was widely re-circulated by right-wing news sites.
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In an article since taken down from its website, Bild interviewed a chef who runs a restaurant in Fressgass, a busy shopping district, as well as a 27-year-old woman.
The chef alleged that dozens of Arab men came into his restaurant in, stole his customers’ jackets and sexually assaulted multiple women.
The 27-year-old female told the paper: “They grabbed me under my skirt, between the legs and on my breast – everywhere.”
Yet, police said on Tuesday they believed the allegations were “completely baseless”. One of the purported victims of the alleged attack was not in Frankfurt at the time of the purported crime, they said.
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By MELISSA EDDYFEB. 16, 2017
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BERLIN — The German mass-circulation daily Bild has “emphatically” apologized to its readers for an article that said a “mob” of Arab men had sexually assaulted women on New Year’s Eve in a Frankfurt restaurant, after the police said that an investigation had failed to turn up any evidence.
The accusations carried echoes of genuine attacks on New Year’s Eve a year earlier, and Nadja Niesen, a spokeswoman for prosecutors in Frankfurt, said on Thursday that the authorities had opened a preliminary investigation of two people suspected of fabricating a crime.
In its Feb. 6 report, Bild, the most widely read newspaper in Germany, quoted Jan Mai, the owner of a cafe in downtown Frankfurt, as saying that 50 “Arab-looking men” had assaulted women on Dec. 31. It also quoted a woman it identified only as Irina A., 27, who said she had been among those who were groped “everywhere” by the men.
The article mirrored a high-profile episode in Cologne a year earlier, when hundreds of women reported being robbed or sexually attacked on New Year’s Eve, some by groups of migrants and newly arrived asylum seekers.
The Bild report from Frankfurt was picked up by other outlets and was widely shared on social media. More than a week later, after the Frankfurt police and other news organizations cast doubt on the allegations, Bild conceded that the attacks described in the article “did not take place,” and it removed the article from its digital platforms.
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“The editorial staff of Bild emphatically apologizes for this untrue report and the allegations that it made against those concerned,” the newspaper said in a note published online on Tuesday that cited the police findings and pledged an internal review. “This reporting in no way reflects the journalistic standards of Bild.”
THE DATA ON MIGRANT CRIME
Germany’s federal police compiled migrant crime statistics for 2015 and released a report in June as part of efforts to calm a heated debate.
Migrants commit a smaller share of crimes than their proportion of the overall population.
All CrimesThe share of foreigners, including migrants, among Germany’s roughly 81 million people is less than 10 percent. But, proportionally, far fewer of the roughly two million people investigated for all crimes committed in 2015 were migrants: just 6 percent.
Violent CrimesOf 2,721 crimes that ended in a death, migrants were responsible for about 9 percent. And of 1,683 cases of sexual abuse, including rape, they were responsible for about 5 percent.
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Bild has a daily circulation of 2.5 million and often sets the tone for political discussions in Germany, and the decision by prosecutors to open an investigation reflects broader concerns in the country about the spreading of false stories and anti-immigrant or anti-European propaganda.
Chancellor Angela Merkel, under whose leadership Germany admitted 890,000 asylum seekers in 2015, is seeking a fourth term this year. Both she and her refugee policy have been the subjects of false news reports and base insults, which officials worry are aimed at whipping up fear and at shifting perceptions before the vote on Sept. 24.
Marcus Pretzell, a member of the far-right party Alternative for Germany, described the 12 victims of a truck attack on a Christmas market in Berlin as “Merkel’s dead” on social media.
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Separately, a report in the Russian news media claimed that a Russian-German teenager had been raped by refugees, setting off protests by Russian-speaking Germans who said they felt unsafe, and spreading to the highest levels of diplomacy before the accusations were questioned seriously enough to dampen their spread.
Other newspapers, including the conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung and the left-leaning Taz, had swiftly published articles questioning the claims in the Russian report. But they were not accepted as false until the police discovered that the teenager had been with her boyfriend at the time of the alleged assault.
The Frankfurt police initially disputed the Bild article on the New Year’s Eve attack, saying that they had no reports of such events that night. On Tuesday, they said that an investigation of testimony by the owner of the cafe and by a woman who said she had been assaulted had failed to turn up any evidence.
“The questioning of the named witnesses led to considerable doubt about the events described,” the Frankfurt police said in a statement on Tuesday, adding that they were examining whether those who fabricated the accusations could be asked to pay for the cost of the investigation.
Mr. Mai could not be reached on Thursday. Both his personal Facebook page and that of his cafe appear to have been taken down.
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UPDATED: Story of Syrian refugees raping Idaho girl is wrong, prosecutor says
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Authorities are denying reports that Syrians gang-raped a child at knife-point in a Twin Falls apartment complex earlier this month, saying the false claims are being spread to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
“There were no Syrians involved, there was no knife involved, there was no gang-rape,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said Monday morning.
[Story: Public demands answers in sex assault case.]
His comments largely refute several differing accounts about the incident circulating on anti-refugee resettlement and conspiracy websites and anti-Muslim blogs. Most of those accounts claim a group of Syrian refugees sexually assaulted a mentally disabled girl at knife-point June 2 in the laundry facilities of Fawnbrook Apartments, a low-income housing complex in Twin Falls, and that the attack was celebrated by the perpetrators’ families as city officials orchestrated a cover-up.
Investigators and the prosecutor were quick to dismiss nearly all those claims Monday. Loebs said he didn’t want to “fan the flames of anti-Syrian refugee people” but suspects the false reports are the work of a local group opposed to refugee resettlement who hoped to stir up trouble by claiming the incident involved Syrian refugees who committed a violent sexual assault.
[Story: False report of Twin Falls attack recalls real one for Boise Syrian refugee.]
“There is a small group of people in Twin Falls County whose life goal is to eliminate refugees, and thus far they have not been constrained by the truth,” Loebs said. “They have not been constrained by the truth in the past, and I don’t expect them to be constrained by the truth in the future.”
An incident did occur, Loebs said, and two juveniles have been charged after authorities obtained video shot on a cellphone. But the details of the case don’t match what’s being reported by anti-refugee groups, the prosecutor said.
The criminal cases against those juveniles have been sealed, as is customary when children are charged. Although prosecutors and police are barred from discussing certain details in sealed juvenile cases, Loebs laid out the basics in an interview Monday with the Times-News. And Twin Falls Police Chief Craig Kingsbury briefed the public on the incident at a City Council meeting later in the evening, saying he wanted to clear up falsehoods circulating on social media.
According to those officials, three boys were involved, ages 7, 10 and 14, and the alleged victim was a 5-year-old girl. The boys are from Sudan and Iraq; none are Syrian. They are being held at a juvenile detention facility. Officials suspect the boys have been in the Uniteds States fewer than two years, but their refugee status wasn’t immediately clear to the police chief.
There were no adults involved, Loebs said, the boys didn’t have a knife, and the incident wasn’t a “gang-rape” instigated by the oldest boy.
“All those involved are juveniles, and the older one didn’t touch the victim in any way,” Loebs said. Only one person is alleged to have touched the victim, said the prosecutor, though he declined to elaborate.
The police chief also said there is no evidence to support claims the suspects’ fathers high-fived or praised the boys for committing the alleged assault, as has been reported on anti-refugee websites.
The prosecutor received a report Thursday from police. Further refuting claims made in the stories online that police bungled the investigation or tried to cover it up, Loebs said the police investigated the incident thoroughly, interviewed everyone who needed to be and followed proper protocols.
The police chief told the public the victim’s health and safety were the department’s first priority, and apprehending the suspects was the second — regardless of either’s ethnicity or religious beliefs.
Kingsbury also addressed claims that it took the police department more than two hours to respond.
“Simply, that just is not true,” the chief said. “The Twin Falls Police Department, the Magic Valley Paramedics, even the Twin Falls County Sheriff’s Office, responded in due time.”
Earlier in his comments, Kingsbury said the call originally came in as “something a lot less serious than a sexual assault or lewd and lascivious conduct.”
Loebs said sex cases between minors aren’t uncommon and implied that this case is being exploited by the local anti-refugee movement to make a political point.
Refugee-resettlement officials called the online reports deceptive attempts to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
Only a handful of people from Syria live in Twin Falls County — 11 Syrians were receiving food stamps in the county and eight were on Medicaid in 2015, according to state statistics. No Syrians have been settled in Twin Falls through Idaho refugee programs, said Jan Reeves, director of the Idaho Office for Refugees.
“There have been periodic website postings about hundreds of Syrians coming to Idaho that have all proven to be false in the past, and this is probably just one of those attempts to try and stir up hatred and bigotry,” he said.
Loebs said the College of Southern Idaho Refugee Center, which oversees refugee resettlement in the Magic Valley, did not resettle the boys involved and that the program has “absolutely nothing to do with this.”
Zeze Rwasama, director of the CSI Refugee Center, said he knows no details about the incident or the names of those involved but is deeply concerned about what the online claims and misinformation are doing to the community.
A headline at the online news site Drudge Report read: “REPORT: Syrian ‘Refugees’ Rape Little Girl at Knifepoint in Idaho.” Snopes, a fact-checking website, said the story was “mostly false.”
“I think the community has seen a lot of negativity around the refugee programs,” Rwasama said. “Speculations are things that can destroy the entire community.”
Echoing statements by the prosecutor, Rwasama said refugee opponents are trying to promote an agenda, particularly against Syrian refugees. He asked residents to confirm facts and refrain from speculating online.
“It breaks my heart when people in the community are divided around issues of resettling refugees,” he said.
Last week, residents at a City Council meeting called on city officials to release more information about the incident and questioned whether authorities were covering it up. The story blew up over the weekend when the juveniles were arrested, and differing accounts were widely circulated on conspiracy-oriented blogs such as Dr. Rich Swier, Refugee Resettlement Watch, Creeping Sharia and Info Wars.
People packed the Council’s meeting on Monday, some speaking in favor of refugee resettlement and others warning that resettlement was a federal government plot overseen by President Barack Obama to allow Muslims to infiltrate the United States.
Supporters of the family started a Facebook group, “Justice For Our Children,” that had almost 9,000 members as of Mondaymorning. They have also started a GoFundMe page to raise money to help the family move and an online petition that had more than 1,100 signatures from all over the country as of Monday.
The incident is just the latest to rekindle a debate in Twin Falls over refugees, security, culture and religion.
News last year that Syrians fleeing a years-long civil war could be among about 300 refugees to be resettled in Twin Falls this year touched off an anti-refugee movement that sought to close the local resettlement office. Those efforts failed when organizers couldn’t gather enough signatures to put the measure before voters. Critics of the program have raised concerns about security and refugee vetting, but some of the movement’s most prominent members have also pitched wild conspiracy theories and tried to frame the debate around religion by frequently making disparaging remarks against Muslims.
Though no Syrians refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls, 36 have been resettled in Boise.
“These were all families,” said Reeves, the director of the Idaho Office for Refugees. “They’re now resettled here. They’re moving on with their lives.”
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PROSECUTOR, POLICE OUTLINE HANDLING OF JUVENILE CASES
By ALEX RIGGINS
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Aside from denying false rumors that are swirling around the Internet, prosecutors and police are saying very little about an alleged sexual assault by three juveniles that occurred June 2 at the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls.
In that way, this case is just like any other of its nature.
Police and prosecutors treat sexual assault cases very carefully no matter what the age of the victims or alleged perpetrators, and when only juveniles are involved, the cases are often kept completely sealed.
On its website, the Idaho Supreme Court explains that juveniles charged with a crime first appear in court for an “admit or deny hearing,” which is similar to an adult arraignment.
“At this hearing the court shall also determine the confidentiality status of juvenile case records and proceedings,” the Supreme Court says.
On Monday, no juvenile cases were opened to the public.
“A judge could unseal it if it’s in the public interest,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said of the Fawnbrook case. But he doesn’t expect it to be. “Absent the false reports, this is not a case that would be made public.”
Juvenile cases involving sexual misconduct are “not that uncommon,” the prosecutor said.
The reason for sealing juvenile cases is to protect juvenile perpetrators as much as to protect victims. Loebs said juvenile court is aimed at “maximum rehabilitation and minimum public stigma and punishment.”
As for protecting victims, Twin Falls Police Chief Craig Kingsbury addressed that Monday night while briefing the Twin Falls City Council on the case, saying sexual assaults take time to investigate properly and “can’t be done in an hour” like on TV.
He said most cases are reported well after the sexual assault occurs, and neither patrol officers nor detectives take statements from juvenile victims — that’s left to St. Luke’s Children at Risk Evaluation Services, or CARES, a team specially trained to interview children involved in sexual assaults.
“The questions and question formulation when interviewing young victims is so important,” the chief said. “We don’t want to do anything that’s going to re-victimize — we don’t want this child to have to tell that story more than once, if we can help it — and we also don’t want to do anything that’s going to jeopardize the prosecution if an officer or detective were to improperly formulate questions.”
At a CARES interview, the juvenile victim is in a comfortable, neutral place — not a police station — and the interviewers “are trained to provide questions that are developmentally appropriate for that child” to make sure the child can comprehend the questions, Kingsbury said.
CARES interviewers are “properly trained forensic interviewers” who also interview young perpetrators of sexual crimes to try to find out why they commit such acts, Kingsbury said.
The police chief said that while investigating the Fawnbrook case, “the investigators took their time appropriately, worked with CARES to make sure everything was done right,” and then submitted the case to the prosecutor’s office “just like any of these cases.”
Twin Falls resident Vicky Davis addresses Council members one by one during their meetingMonday evening at their chambers in downtown Twin Falls. Davis is a leading local opponent to refugee resettlement. Twin Falls resident Vicky Davis addresses Council members one by one during their meetingMonday evening at their chambers in downtown Twin Falls. Davis is a leading local opponent to refugee resettlement.
Twin Falls resident Vicky Davis addresses Council members one by one during their meetingMonday evening at their chambers in downtown Twin Falls. Davis is a leading local opponent to refugee resettlement. Photo by Drew Nash/Times-News
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http://www.snopes.com/swedish-girl-refugee-assault-meme/
Image depicts a Swedish girl brutally abducted and raped by three refugees.
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FALSE
ORIGIN
On 28 May 2016 the Facebook page “I’m white” shared the meme reproduced above. It featured a photograph of a young, blonde woman, and the text said:
‘ ..I was kidnapped, tortured, and gang-raped by three refugees for 17 hours before I escaped while they slept. The police said the assault was my fault and the judge sentenced them all to probation ..’
‘ ..This took place last year, when I was 14..’
The caption on the status updated claimed the purported incident occurred in Sweden:
i’m white facebook sweden rape
The photograph did not show a crime victim, however. It was published to Flickr on 5 November 2011, with a caption asking for votes in a contest (translated):
Please vote for me in GPs Little Picture of the Year! Went ahead with two pictures!
According to the caption superimposed on the photograph, the 14-year-old Swedish girl was abducted and raped in 2015. Police purportedly blamed the girl for the incident, and the three assailants received no jail time. Social media users asked about the specifics of the claim, but no one produced any news links about an incident matching the description.
There was, however, a story that came out in late 2015 that’s very similar to the one in the meme: a thirteen-year-old girl disappeared from her home in Berlin for a day and a half, then reappeared saying she had been held captive and repeatedly raped by three men (described in separate news accounts only as “migrants,” “asylum seekers,” and “southern-looking“), and detailing her escape. A woman purporting to be her aunt gave a detailed and tearful account of the ordeal, and another woman claiming to be the girl’s cousin spoke at length about it at a far-right political rally.
The account was by turns tragic and moving. There was just one problem with the story: it was completely made up. The girl admitted her hoax just a few days after her return during the investigation, and subsequent examinations showed no signs of trauma.
The meme also may have been inspired in part by a 26 May 2016 article published by British tabloid Express, which reported that police in Sweden investigated an uptick in sexual assaults carried out by “asylum seekers”, who then pinned blame on their teenaged victims:
SWEDISH police have blamed Scandinavian teenage girls’ “Nordic alcohol culture” and Western behaviour for a steep rise in sex attacks carried out by migrants. The damning police report, which is looking at why Sweden has the worst rates of physical and sexual violence committed against women and girls in Europe, has also excused refugees who it says “cannot handle the alcohol”.
Shockingly, the report revealed the majority of sex attack victims were under the age 15.
The article referenced a May 2016 report from the Swedish Police Authority [PDF], which examined sexual assaults in the country between 2011 and 2016. The first page mentioned refugees in passing (and cited rumors of New Year’s Eve assaults), but not as a massive component of sex assaults in Sweden (translated):
[This s]urvey covers the period 2011-2016 and concerns over ten thousand reported crimes relating to sexual assaults. Of these, nearly two thousand complaints were in 2015 and 2016 []. The majority of the victims are girls who are younger than fifteen years old, but crime also occurs against young boys. Crimes committed in a public place, for example, crowds and the festival areas, are relatively few and are only just over one percent of the total number of crimes. The vast majority of offenders are acting alone and involve young girls, usually for physical touching that is perceived as unpleasant. …
The the typical offender is a middle-aged man who acting alone through indecent exposure, offensive suggestions or superficial touches. However, there have been a few group assaults in parks, at bus stops and on buses and trains. In swimming pools, repression has been usually carried out by three or more boys against many girls. The sole perpetrators have often not been identified, but data indicate that they do not constitute a homogeneous group. Where the crimes carried out by offenders in a larger group of public places and indoor swimming pools are the perpetrators were mainly young people looking for or have recently received asylum in Sweden. The most common sexual harassments are committed via social media and affect even small children.
The report concluded by acknowledging that the issue of sexual assaults in Sweden is a complex, and needs a more dynamic law enforcement approach:
A significant part of the action lies in awareness-raising and attitude-changing measures directed against different perpetrator groups, and needs to use targeted actions in collaboration with other agencies and organizations working with young people. Police have a shared responsibility with a great need for collaboration.
Although a handful of news stories included elements of the meme’s claims, none specifically involved a 14-year-old Swedish girl abducted and gang-raped for hours by refugees before she escaped. It is possible that the meme misrepresented a case we were unable to locate, but it’s probably that — like the photograph — the claim is a creative illustration of its creator’s fear of refugees in Europe.
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You’re a dead set idiot Q – waffling along to yourself in your own little echo chamber – comforting yourself that fake news in Sweden confirms your own racial bias.
So…let’s get the facts o the supposed rape of a 12 yeaer old whos rpaist stil goers free:
Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.
Except it turned out that there was doubt. Within a few hours the statement had been taken down.
The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”
To paint the perpetrators of sexual assault as some monolithic group also makes it easy to continue the victim-blaming
It was too late by then, of course. The buzzwords had already been unleashed, seized and extrapolated upon until they had become the main story. Reporting from the UK, the MailOnline’s news story cited authorities as identifying the perpetrators of the assaults as “young men, who are foreigners.”; the Telegraph’s headline warned of “reports of rapes by ‘migrants’”. And so an inaccurate, retracted police statement, and one victim’s speculation that they were “probably immigrants” turned into fact.
However much the media (and sometimes the police, it would seem) like to suggest otherwise, the threat of rape and sexual assault at festivals does not simply come from some easily pigeonholed “other”. It’s wrong to lay the blame, as we do for so many of the world’s problems, on a faceless foreign mass. To do so is to derail an issue that badly needs addressing. Because it’s not as though these were isolated incidents, confined only to Swedish festivals where foreigners are present. Far from it.
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In 2009, a woman was raped at Reading festival. In 2010, a 16-year-old boy was found guilty of attacking a 12-year-old girl at Secret Garden Party and two women were raped – in unrelated incidents – at Latitude. In 2013, two women were assaulted at Wilderness festival. Last year, a man was arrested on suspicion of raping a woman at V festival.
In the early Swedish news reports, Patricia Lorenzoni, a researcher and lecturer at Linköping University, was one of the few dissenting voices. Does she feel migrants were disproportionately blamed for crimes such as these? “Yes,” she says, “and there is plenty of statistical data showing this. Racist and rightwing populist groups have for years tried to create a climate of fear around the image of the ‘immigrant’ rapist. What is worrying now is that this language is becoming part of more general media reporting.”
If we allow this trend to continue, then we fail to examine our own culpability when it comes to rape culture. A Swedish police report on sexual assault in the country, for example, referred to the damage caused by ideas of “masculinity”, as well as the normalisation of sexual harassment in schools. But these nuanced analysis and deep-rooted causes don’t make for quite such exciting headlines.
Swedish police identify seven men suspected of sexual assault at festival
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To paint the perpetrators of sexual assault as some monolithic, easily identifiable group also makes it easier to continue the victim-blaming. Because it should be easy to avoid being assaulted at a festival, right? Just avoid the men who have “attacker” practically written on their foreheads. In 2010, after the attack at Reading, festival organiser Melvin Benn spoke of a plan to “inform young girls in particular about the danger of sexual predators”. There was no mention of how the festival planned to deal with the sexual predators themselves. The same year, Hop Farm festival founder Vince Power said a festival was essentially a small town, “and in a town you wouldn’t leave your door open”. In doing so, he painted the women who’d been assaulted as victims of nothing but their own carelessness.
As long as we continue to put the onus of responsibility on the victims in this way, and paint the perpetrators as a foreign threat miring what could otherwise be some festival utopia, that door will remain open.
In a more measured statement following the weekend’s attacks, Swedish police admitted that “the descriptions [of perpetrators] are diverse”. There is, they said, just one common denominator: “These are all young men.” However much we try and twist the narrative, there is no homogenous, easily recognisable perpetrator of violence – least of all at festivals. The sooner we realise that, the sooner we might be able to stop it from happening.
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Did you cowardly hypocrites hiding in the shadows read that report?
12 year olds getting raped and beaten in Sweden, and getting married off in the back of mosques in Australia.
But do Bones and Greg care.
No. Not at all. They’re too busy prancing around the streets going door to door pleading with people to vote “yeth” for homosexual marriage and the societal upheaval that wil go with it.
Licking their chops now.
They’ll be able to force Christians out of jobs and stop conservatives from adopting. Getting close now isn’t it girls?
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Attention all Muslims.
Bundaberg and Newcastle welcome you with open arms. Especially if you are gay and hate evangelicals.
Oh, before you leave you are welcome to stay at Wally the Muslim’s house.
He can show you his GOLD LOGIE!!!
Scroll down for some silly whining from those horrible Swedes…
“A journalist investigating the rape of a 12-year-old girl in Sweden was told that police have not even interviewed the prime suspect two months later because authorities “cannot cope” with the sheer volume of cases since Sweden opened its borders to mass immigration two years ago.
Back in July, the 12-year-old girl was dragged into a restroom by an older man in the center of Stenungsund before being beaten, raped and threatened with death.
Knowing the identity of the culprit, the girl’s mother immediately reported him to police, but authorities have yet to even interrogate the suspect two months later despite knowing his name and address.
According to journalist Joakim Lamotte, the girl is still being confronted and taunted by the rapist on the streets of Stenungsund.”
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I call on the priests of Australia to protect Australian citizens by doing everything possible to stamp this out.
Go to your local mosque now!!
Oh and ask them their thoughts on gay marriage too.
Any mosques in Bundaberg?
Can the Bundaberg teachers talk with their Muslim students to find out how widespread this is.
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Wall? Eh….. Wally the Muslim??
How can this be going on in your .. eh ….. lovely community.
Shocking alright.
Well not for some here.
The Newcastle Anglican Priest newbies just love Islam and will be too scared to make a statement.
The hippie is reading Hillary’s failure book for juicy bits about King Bernie,
And a Bundaberg teacher says “Who cares. Has Megan got a logie? Anyway, IAN ROBERTS got in the news again”
Catch Up: Australia’s shocking secret trade in Muslim child brides, some as young as ten. Megan Miller reports.
http://www.todaytonightadelaide.com.au
#TTAdelaide
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Somewhere there’s a teacher drowning his sorrows with Bundaberg rum looking over the sugar cane fields convinced that it’s those Jews that stopped Hillary from winning and a local boy from getting a GOLD LOGIE.
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She was convincing eh? Everyone believed her.
Maybe Muslims have a special talent for acting??
My, one day I can see the day when one of them in Australia even receives the highly coveted GOLD LOGIE!!!
A gold logie!!!
Imagine that.
According to failed academics turned Bundaberg school teachers, a Gold Logie means you really are wonderful and are a fountain of wisdom.
The Gold Logie …….
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But what about the attacks on Muslims??
Why the hate?
What about the poor Muslim girl in New York who was attacked?
Lies.
Here’s one story white liberals in Australia probably won’t ever hear about . Oh they heard about the original lie – just not the truth!
“A Muslim teen said she was “verbally abused on a NY train” by “islamophobic Trump” supporters. It was worldwide news. No one in the media questioned all the holes in her story.
Yasmin and her brother Abdoul were featured together in NY Newsday talking about the “pigs” who attacked her and the cowardly witnesses who sat idly by. Yet no witnesses ever came forward and no surveillance video corroborated her story, which supposedly happened on the platform and in the train car of a post-9/11 New York City subway station.
Ironically, it was also NY Newsday that reported the police charges against Abdoul from a few years earlier. Allegedly, Abdoul Seweid and his friends were involved in some serious criminal activity that Abdoul tried to cover by blaming the involvement of “three unknown males.””
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Not sure if anyone still looks after this blog or if anyone is reading it. Or if those old commenters aren’t busy out there rallying for the gay marriage postal vote so they can leave their wives and marry their true loves … but
from time to time I’ll post I’ll make a comment answering the gold logie winner’s hilarious “Islam:What are we afraid of???” question.
It’s actually the kind of question that either makes some spit out theur whiskey laughing or makes others recoil in fear.
But, here’s another random example of what happens when too many Muslims are in the same place – trouble.
“Firefighters in the southern Swedish city of Malmö were forced to let a building burn to the ground after they were violently attacked by locals who threw glass bottles at them.
The fire, which occurred in the city’s suburb of Kroksback, initially started after two cars in a car park were set on fire Thursday at around 9 pm. Police and fire crews were called and arrived on the scene shortly after, whilst another fire started at a nearby building on Sörbäcksgatan street, police said in a press release.
As the firemen tried to put out the second blaze, glass bottles were thrown at them and at their vehicles. The attack forced the firemen to abandon the blaze which engulfed the building and burned it to the ground.
Police who arrived on the scene were also attacked with glass bottles though the police report does not specify what damage was done to their vehicles or any injuries sustained by the emergency personnel.”
Yeah, I know some of you didn’t see that news.
You were too busy laughing at your comedic idol Stephanie Colbert raging against Trump for “not visiting s single flood victim”
In spite of the fact that he went to Texas twice met and encouraged many flood victims – black and white, and Colbert didn’t go down there – unlike the many people who did..
Yep, liberals just can’t help lying.
Pathetic miserable people.
Who run when you take them in with truth and logic.
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Another unsurprising headline
Denmark in crisis as Muslims protest & attack police over wanting independent Sharia Law police force in Denmark.
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Too much horiible Islamic news to post.
But I just saw this.
“A young couple from Poland were subjected to a “brutal and beastly attack” by four men suspected to be African migrants on a beach in Rimini, Italy.
The 26-year-olds were taking an evening stroll on their last night in the popular tourist spot when they were set upon by four men, Wiadomości reports.
The young man was beaten unconscious by the gang, who then subjected his partner to multiple rapes in front of him. Both were also robbed.”
Yeah, let more in. Just restrict them to Bundaberg and Newcastle.
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Sad.
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This is for Q:
Q: How do you tell a Sunni from a Shiite?
A: The Sunnis are the ones with the Shiite blown out of them.
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Okay.. anyone left here.
Anyone with a brain?
Been following the latest Radical Islamic attack that killed many including a cute little Aussie boy?
Read this.
“Don’t criminalise the mosques because the overwhelming majority of them are places of worship. They are places where people pray,” Trapero said.
“In fact, even though there is an imam implicated in the group, it doesn’t mean that the mosque is where they were radicalised.”
One woman who was close to multiple attackers and who heard Es Satty’s sermons said the imam repeatedly preached about jihad and killing infidels. She spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing she would be attacked for speaking out.
“I feel like I could have done something. I feel a little bit guilty now,” she said.
“Everybody knew it. It was an open secret.
Es Satty’s former mosque denounced the deadly attacks, but denied Es Satty was anything other than “a normal imam.”
So the ringleader is an normal old Imam who preached at a mosque and all the little Muslims heard him talk about jihad and now one of the feels a little guilty ….
And somewhere there’s a Bundaberg teacher and a Newcastle Anglican Priest who know they have nothing left to say.
Because they know ….. Some smart Alec Muslim getting a gold logie means nothing to people maimed in hospital or people planning funerals .
Hey Anglican Priest . Get out and evangelize.
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Hope no one was holidaying in Barcelona.
Radical Islamic terror strikes again.
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Hey here’s a fun exercise.
Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher.
Famous – left wing … and and TV STARS!!!!!!
If the were in Australia they’d have standard LOGIES or maybe even that ultimate reward for political knowledge and insight …
***THE GOLD LOGIE***
What do little Aussie white guys who aspire to be “liberal” respond when the giants of their field come out with this??? Do they go into denial? Do they choose pinupboy Waleed??
Do they call these guys islamophobic??
Oh Bill Mayer has a TV show. Millions more know him than have even heard of a Logie.
On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” author Richard Dawkins argued that Muslims aren’t being oppressed by critics of Islam like himself, but that they are oppressed by Islam.
Host Bill Maher and Dawkins talked about their mutual dis-invitation from speeches at UC-Berkeley and a radio station canceling an interview with Dawkins.
Dawkins said that there is “an epidemic that’s going on of people running scared from open speech,” and terrified of things that might be offensive.
He added, “I think that this radio station and these universities, they are on our side. We’re on their side. Now, I was de-platformed specifically because of what I was alleged to have said about Islam. I think that the reason they did it was probably a laudable motive, they are on the side of oppressed minorities. They think that Muslims are an oppressed minority, oppressed by people like us. Actually, of course, Muslims are oppressed by Islam.” He later argued that Muslims who don’t oppress women or gay people are being persecuted by those who do and “That’s where the persecution comes from.”
Maher added that “criticism of a religion is not the same thing as bigotry.”
Maybe Bones can look up who is more popular before he decides what to think?
Now do the little Aussie battlers know what HBO is?
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Waleed Aly
Ex-spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria.
Politics lecturer at Monash University’s Global Terrorism Research Centre, despite having no doctorate and having qualified in engineering and law.- he’s only recently got his PhD
No wonder then that
– he had no idea who Borok Haram are – says they might be vigilantes.
– Speculated that the Boston marathoners could be patriots…
– Assured the public that Taj el-Din el-Hilali, was not a worry even though he’d praised suicide bombers as “heroes” and called the September 11 attacks “God’s work against oppressors”.
– Can’t answer a straight question about homosexuality.
– Wants understanding of Muslims everytime there’s a terror attack – and blames western society.
But Bones loves him to bits – roll over Ian Roberts, Bones just can’t get enough of Waleed – he’s got a gold logie!!!!!
Just imagine if he went to Bundaberg . Bones would be at the airport swooning and screaming like a teenage girl for the Beatles.
After all – he’s got a GOLD LOGIE!!!
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What happened to my Gunston video?? Lol
Anyway, that guy is funny. Just hilariously uninformed . But that’s maybe part of his act.
1. There was no Muslim ban.
2. Isis is getting pulverized and is in retreat. And probably nobody on this site knows why. It’s thanks to Trump – but nobody here knows why.
3. The USA is doing much better. Stocks at record levels, numbers on food stamps down , unemployment down, jobs created, illegal border crossings down, sex trafficking down, business confidence up, financial regulations streamlined ( which is reason for the above economic good news), international co-operation on North Korea.,
If there were a Democraric President now the newspapers would be full of good news and praise.
Instead, because most journalists are left-wing, hyper critical, sore-loser, negative, totally biased snowflakes , they report on the absurd Russia story which simply shows the putrid hypocrisy and double standards of the Democrats and their second party – the media.
Oh and Bones.
There was once a time in Queensland when if the class clown had no other argument than “X says so and he’s got a logie” that the teacher would rightly explain how stupid and moronic the answer was. Now in 2017 that answer is given by a teacher??
What kind of Mickey Mouse education system has it become. Next they’ll ban Christmas cards and talking about Jesus…
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2016 Gold Logie Winner Waleed Aly asks “Islam, what are we afraid of?”
Christians are afraid of being shot and bombed in churches in different countries, Muslims are afraid of other Muslims blowing up their mosques, law-abiding Jewish citizens of Sydney are afraid they won’t be able to build a new synagogue, police, ambulance and firefighters are afraid of going into many no-go zones in various countries, and of course many people are nervous when they get on planes, or attend big public events because you never know when an Islamist is going to blow the place up. Swedish women are afraid of getting raped, German school girls are afraid of wearling the same clothes they did for years near refugee centers full of Mulims, and ….well, there should be no reason to keep going.
But suffice it to say that there are now whole areas that people are now afraid to go, and security levels are much stricter all over the world in order to protect people from adherents of Islam.
The safest countries from Islamic terrorism to live in are the countries with the lowest numbers of Muslims. That, wouldn’t be surprising to most people. Strangely enough it is.
Anyone who can say otherwise probably deserves some kind of award. Being able to wonder aloud why people are afraid of Islam without laughing requires great acting skill. Probably deserves a Logie.
Though nobody outside of Australia would have any idea what a logie is – as you can see in this classic interview.
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Greg.
Pope Francis is a good man. But he has security. Unlike the poor parishioners in Nigeria who were killed the other day. And news of plans of assassination of the Pope by Islamic terrorists as bad as it is , concerns me less than the disgraceful treatment of the Jewish community in Sydney.
Explorer.
Sad that you have no respect for the Holy Father.
Haven’t seen you speak that way about Muslim leaders.
Bones
Great to see you comment..
I was worried about you.
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Logies 2016: Waleed Aly wins Gold Logie
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The pope is dyslexic and confused
So tired of being the man in the news
People looked on,agog
As he prayed to his dog
as his flock looked bemused in their pews.
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I wasn’t going to say anything – but you said someone tried to kill Pope Francis – well that’s it – Bastards.
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It’s so great that intelligence services in countries all over the world are watching evil terrorists who self-identify as Muslims and who claim to act for Allah and are faithful to the teachings of the Koran.
My goodness – what is it about the Koran and Islam that inspires violence and hatred in so many different countries?
It has just been revealed that Portuguese security services foiled a planned attack on Pope Francis in May. A Moroccan Islamist purchased materials needed to make an improvised explosive device and persuaded his Portuguese wife, who was a firefighter, to conceal the bomb in the ambulance that followed the pope during his tour of the town of Fatima in May. However, surveillance by the Portuguese intelligence service prevented the attack and the would-be attacker has now been deported back to Morocco.
“It has just been revealed that Portuguese security services foiled a planned attack on Pope Francis in May. A Moroccan Islamist purchased materials needed to make an improvised explosive device and persuaded his Portuguese wife, who was a firefighter, to conceal the bomb in the ambulance that followed the pope during his tour of the town of Fatima in May. However, surveillance by the Portuguese intelligence service prevented the attack and the would-be attacker has now been deported back to Morocco.”
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This question just never gets old.
“Islam what are we afraid of ?
A LOCAL council has banned the construction of a synagogue in Bondi because it could be a terrorist target, in a shock move that religious leaders say has caved in to Islamic extremism and created a dangerous precedent.
The decision, which has rocked the longstanding Jewish community in the iconic suburb, was upheld in court this week as the nation reeled from the alleged airline terror threat and debate raged over increased security measures at airports and other public places.
Security risk? Terrorism?
From who?
Hillsongets? Anglicans? The Salvation Army ?
Ooohhh I know. Could it be the Religionists of Peace?
This is where Wally the Muslim should chime in and say that there’ll be no problem with terrorism against a synagogue because if we have enough police they’ll catch the Islamic terrorists before they blow up the synagogue then we’ll be able to smile and say “Islam – what are we afraid of?
Walleed – go ask the Jews!
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Meh. Big deal eh Wally Ali. They stopped them.
Nothing to worry about Islam because the cops can catch them. What else have they got to do?
Let’s bring in more Muslims. As long as we increase the number of cops to stop them it’s all good.
Great work boys.
Glad someone is concerned about radical Islamic terrorism – or even normal run of the mill Muslims who get radicalized..
NEW details have emerged about just how close alleged would-be bombers got to carrying an explosive device aboard an international flight from Sydney.
Earlier on Thursday, Sydney’s Daily Telegraph reported an unwitting passenger may have been used to smuggle a bomb on board a plane destined for the Middle East.
The plot to have the device detonated “without (the bomber) knowing they were part of a suicide mission” was aborted.
On Thursday afternoon, Fairfax reported the device made it as far as Sydney International Airport terminal’s check-in area and that a passenger was “queried about the weight of the luggage at the check-in counter and learnt it was too heavy”.
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Ha!
Wally the Muslim in the news again.
Now we don’t have to be afraid of Islam because….
Because Aussie police are really good at catching Islamic terrorists and we haven’t had big attacks yet.
What??!??
You moron!! We haven’t had big attacks because ASIO and co are running around monitoring and catching Muslims BEFORE they are successful.
If they weren’t you would have had a plane blown up and then what would you say.
Maybe Wally Ali can donate half his salary to the police!
What a clown!
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The number of children subjected to or fearing forced marriage being offered assistance by the UK’s leading children’s charity has hit a record level, new data has revealed.
The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) now provides three times more counselling sessions than they did five years ago.
Some of the victims are as young as 13 and they are frequently threatened with violence and emotional blackmail, pressuring them to marry older men they may have never met.
Also 5000 cases of Female Genital Mutilation without one prosecution.
So Waleed the Muslim, you’re question is dumb beyond compare. Even Muslim young girls are scared of Islam!
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So what religion do you reckon these migrants would be?
“According to reports, the number of sex attacks at Swedish music festivals has increased by as much as 1,000 per cent in 2016 and the trend has shown little sign of change.
Aside from the outright cancelling of festivals, few have proposed meaningful solutions to the problem of sex assaults, many of which are said to be committed by young men of a migrant background.”
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New details have emerged about London Bridge terror group ringleader Khuram Butt, the 27-year-old Islamist who was shot dead by police in June, which reveals him as a proselytising radical who used positions of trust to recruit young Muslims.
Terrorist Khuram Butt led fellow Islamists Rachid Redouane and Youssef Zaghba in their attack on London bridge, in which they drove a hire van into pedestrians before disembarking and charging Friday-night revellers with knives while wearing fake suicide vests. They killed eight, and injured 48 before being killed by a police armed response unit.
A new report by Britain’s Mail on Sunday reveals Butt’s Islamist activities extended beyond his deadly attack, and apparently influenced his teaching at an East London Muslim school, and his work at a nearby Muslim gym where he worked as a trainer and met his fellow attackers.
The paper reports Butt volunteered as a volunteer after-school Koran teacher at the Eton Community School in Ilford, East London, formerly known as the Ad-Deen Primary School, where he took classes of up to five children at once. Butt was known locally as an Islamist, and had appeared in a Channel 4 documentary about Islamic extremism in Britain.
Despite that, he was still able to attain a position at the school to teach. Locals since expressed fears he was radicalising children and the headmistress passed on a list of names to the authorities.
It is reported that police and social services have been made aware of Butt’s teach activities and are now identifying children that would have been under his care to determine the extent to which his influence was made.
Despite his presence, the school managed to attain an improved rating by the British schools inspectorate, Ofsted, just two months before the London Bridge attack.
Well of course. What was there to be afraid of?
The friendly Koran teacher…
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And of course there’s Nigeria.
At least 69 people are known to have died in a Boko Haram ambush of an oil exploration team in northeast Nigeria, as three men kidnapped by the jihadists made a video appeal.
Yeah I know.
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Read up on what this idiot said.
Sad thing is it will end up happening because of the thinking dumb white fat liberal Christian men.
Halal certification chief Mohamed Elmouelhy told his Facebook followers the solution to this perceived demographic crisis for Australian women is for Muslim men to “fertilise them” and “keep them surrounded by Muslim babies” as part of what he foresees as the gradual Islamisation of Australia.
He wants and is working for an Islamic Australia.
Read his deleted post you morons.
Halal certification is insane.
Moronic liberals would bend over to Muslims and say me first if they thought it was politically cool to say so.
What fools let this halal certification garbage in.
Weak dumb emaciated stand-for-nothing fat white liberal girlie men.
And the Muslims despise you completely!!!
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So again – an answer to the “Islam, what are we afraid of?” question.
We’re afraid that the more Muslims there are in Australia the higher the chance of families trying to blow up planes in the name of Allah.
Yes I know, Islam is a religion of peace. Well so us Hillsong and so is Newcastle Anglicanism.
But the federal police and Asio are spending much time trying to stop Anglicans and Hillsongers from blowing up planes.
From news.com.au
AFP Commissioner Andrew Colvin said the plan was “Islamist-inspired”
(is he allowed to say that?)
There was shock in Surry Hills, where neighbours said the family had lived there since the 1970s. One neighbour said he was not aware of any extremist links.
“Never in my life would I have expected this … they’re a very nice family,” he said.
(This always is said about the nice Muslims next door who kill and bomb. )
One neighbour said he often saw people in religious robes gather outside.“You’d have 15 or 20 of them talking outside and they would all go into the unit together,” he said.
(Well … peaceful Muslims. Just like 15 Anglicans – or so they thought …..)
The wife said her 66-year-old husband was on his iPad when police arrived and dragged him outside. She said she didn’t know why police had searched their home. “We’re not bad. We put scarf on, that’s our religion … you go to the church, I go to the mosque, that’s it,” she said.
(yeah….. how many times have you heard that after the latest killing.
Good work police. Keep monitoring , and for the sake of the country – keep religious profiling. I know you can’t say you are – but just do it.
Yep. The sweet Muslim family next door since the 70’s.
Waleed, tell your people it’s not nice to bomb planes.
I know you don’t do things like that – but there are mAny more Muslims that want to kill innocent people than Anglicans, Hillsongers, Buddhists or any other group on the plAnet.
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Since I know the loser looney liberals secretly will read this -here’s a parting shot.
And this time it’s a copy and paste job.
From Milo (now do I need to explain to Fatger Gregorita who that is…?)
A gay conservative Trump supporter. The guy so dangerous Wazza’s tolerant loving left-wing brethren refuse to allow to speak on campuses…
Oh the irony.
You guys should buy his book! He’s gay!
“Islam and the Left
During my college talks, I’m often asked what arguments to use when debating with the regressive Left. I always have the same answer: Islam.
There is nothing else which better exposes the modern Left’s rank hypocrisy, their disregard for the facts, and their hatred for the West and all it stands for than their attitude to Islam. Every noble principle the Left claims to uphold, from rights for women to gay liberation, even diversity itself, dies on the altar of its sycophantic defense of Islam.
Karl Marx called religion the “opium of the masses.” If you look at the Left’s attitude to Christianity, you might think they believe in this message. The progressive Left’s comedians and columnists never miss an opportunity to belittle and denigrate conservative Christians, and yet, they defend Islam at the expense of every other minority. Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have all been frustrated by this question: Why is the Left refusing to lift a finger against the most radical, dangerous, socially conservative and oppressive religion on earth?”
He goes on…..
The tide is turning.
Liberal hypocrisy is obvious.
CNN is tanking.
Trump wins again!
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Have you become unplugged, Q? Suggest you put the plug back in.
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Left this out
Jerusalem District’s Police Commander Yoram Halevy said all three attackers were residents of the West Bank, and noted that some of them had permits to enter Israel. He added that there were no specific alerts before the attack. “However we know what Jerusalem is. We are in the Ramadan period and we do not act according to alerts, we are on one big alert all the time,” he said.”
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Islam, what are we afraid of?
Well lots of things. But seems like there’s more cause for alarm during Ramadan… you know – that Islamic love fest..
Luckily this the machine gun jammed.,
Oh, this wasn’t widely reported on the news that liberals watch – strangely enough.
One day you might scratch your chins and ask why.
Three Palestinians Carry Out Knife-and-gun Attack in Jerusalem, Policewoman Killed
All three assailants shot dead ■ Attack took place outside Old City, in two separate scenes near Damascus Gate
Three Palestinian assailants armed with guns and knives carried out an attack Friday night in Jerusalem that killed one Border Policewoman and left a number of people wounded.
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Islam what are we afraid of.
Well lots of girls around the world are.
BUT while liberals will want to rise up against Christians for not baking one measly cake for a couple of homosexuals there doesn’t seem to be a peep about Islamic Female Genital Mutilation
Where’s the pussy hat brigade ?
The CDC states that the massive increase in the monstrous practice of female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C) is “wholly a result of rapid growth in the number of immigrants from FGM/C-practicing countries living in the United States.” Virtually all of the countries listed by the CDC were dominated by Muslims. And that’s not even including Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation. The author of the 2016 study asserted that if Indonesia were included, the number of victims would increase by “several tens of thousands.” Recently-retired CDC researcher Howard Goldberg told The New York Post, “Indonesian figures became available after we wrote our paper, but it turns out that FGM was much more common in Indonesia than had been thought.”
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“Pakistani Christians in Sindh province are demanding justice after a 35-year-old sanitation worker died, having been exposed to toxic sewage and refused medical care by Muslim doctors who refused to touch his “unclean” body during Ramadan.
Ramadan is the holy month of Islam, in which Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset to strengthen their faith. The doctors refused to touch the sanitation worker because he was covered in sewage and touching the sewage during Ramadan would “displease Allah,”
“Islam, What are we afraid of?” is the question being addressed.
We are not afraid. We just hope this pathetic, disgusting religion will go away, and Muslims will come to their senses and become Christians, atheists, or even Anglicans.
THe beliefs these people have are just destructive.
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Re the one minute silence scandal
Most of the Saudi Arabian side are Muslim and the custom of pausing for a moment’s silence to honour the dead is not common under Islam. Instead, it is custom to pray for the dead, give to charity on their behalf and remember.
Muslims….they don’t respect other people’s culture.
Father Gregorita? Am I allowed to conclude that?
Yes? No? By God they’ll insist you respect their culture if you go there!
Actually they’ll insist on it if you go to a swimming pool in Australia.
Unless of course…..theses guys aren’t real Muslims.
The only one who could tell us that is….Father Gregorita
No, I’ll stop fooling around and explain what I’ve been trying to get through fat heads (see I didn’t say bald) for years.
Muslims are a different breed.
Anyone who knows anything about Islam knows that.
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A federal prosecutor dropped a bombshell in court Wednesday, telling a federal judge that the government estimates that as many as 100 girls may have had their genitals cut at the hands of a local doctor and her cohorts.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Sara Woodward disclosed the information while trying to convince a judge to keep a doctor and his wife locked up in the historic case. It involves allegations that two Minnesota girls had their genitals cut at a Livonia clinic in February as part of a religious rite of passage and were told to keep what happened a secret.
“Due to the secretive nature of this procedure, we are unlikely to ever know how many children were cut by Dr. (Jumana) Nagarwala,” Woodward said, referring to the lead defendant in the case, later adding, “The Minnesota victims were not the first victims.”
The news just keeps getting worse about Muslims doesn’t it?
Doesn’t it Father Gregorita.
So is it okay when Muslims do this?
Or are they not Muslims?
Only Gregorita can tell……..
Okay, I’ll come clean. I won’t ask anymore. I’ll just tell you the ONLY solution.
You tell these insane people with their INSANE false religion that if they want to live in America they follow AMERICAN laws! No exception.
Simple.
Forget trying to be nice about the cultural history. It stinks.
Stop butchering little girls.
See Gregorita – it’s simple.
Now if you want to argue that I’m anti-Muslim knock yourself out.
But I won’t allow Muslims coming in and butchering girls, and bombing people.
See? That’s the intelligent right response.
Simple.
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Hey that Muslim (Greg can check out whether he’s a Muslim or not) who hit the cop on the head outside of Notre Dame?
Highly educated, highly acclaimed and radicalized while in …….Sweden.
But Greg wants to say
1. He wasn’t a Muslim
2. Most Muslims are nice.
3. Even stating the fact that he hit the guy in the head is anti-Islamic (but …. what if he’s not truly Islamic ?)
4. Tell the cop if it wouldn’t have been the hammer of a Muslim (possibly just a non-Muslim saying he’s a Muslim and being the daily Islam-hijacking non-Islamic extremist who is angry at white Jude-Christian imperialist pig dogs) – then he had just the same chance of being hit on the head by lightning .
Yes Monsieur Gendarme, Anglican priests down in Newcastle really believe that – I think the Huffington Post is required reading at their …”seminary” there, and they got that scintillating statistic from there.
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Attention all Newcastle Anglicans who aren’t recovering from molestation at the hands of Anglican priests and teachers.
Please go through every article of this blog and say
“this is anti-Christian. The greater majority of Christians are peaceful and nice”
And Greg will give you a PhD in internet debate.,
Back to the topic
Islam ..?
Well did you see the news about the Philippines this morning?
Or or …
oh I see.
According to Greg’s reasoning (can I use that word), under the topic of “Islam, what are we afraid of” you aren’t allowed to mention anything that self proclaimed Muslims do anywhere in the world .
You just have to answer “nothing”
And then go back to calling Trump and idiot, Driscoll a misogynist, Margaret Court a hypocrite , and hope Lance gets back to publishing the next article about a self proclaimed Christian who dies something bad.
Greg …..you make ME want to become an Anglican Priest to save the church from illogical , inconsistent , hypocritical leftists like the newbies coming through.
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Just re-read Greg’s post.
He says there is no point because Q posts “anti-Islam” stuff and he points out that the greater majority of Muslims are nice??????
Lol
That’s what this is???
Lol
So if I post something like
“Indian Muslim Family Burns Pregnant Daughter Alive for Marrying Man of Lower Caste
A 21-year-old pregnant Muslim woman in India was burned alive by her own family members because she married a man from a lower caste, according to a police official.”
Greg says that is “anti-Islam”????
And he feels he should say
“Most Mudlims are nice – don’t be anti-Islam?
Lol
So….. this website? Is it anti-Christian?
Think carefully Greg.,
So the hundreds of articles here about a pilfering pastor? Swindling saint? Randy reverend?
By your definition they have to be “anti-Christian”
And all anyone should say is something like
“Most Christians are nice”
In that one post Gregorita the novice Anglican Priest, you have shown the utter hypocrisy and inconsistency of you looney leftist commentators!!
Lol
Think!!!
So Islam, what are we afraid of?
Shall I keep answering?
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Hear a lot about this Allah dude in England eh
“A CHILDCARE worker has been stabbed by three women in London, who reportedly chanted “Allah will get you”.
The Ilford Recorder reports that Karrien Stevens, who runs the Little Diamonds childcare centre in Hermon Hill confirmed that one of her staff was the victim of a stabbing attack, while on her way to work.
The woman, reported to be in her 30s, was stabbed from behind and saved when a man came to her rescue and the attackers ran off”
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WASHINGTON, DC – An imam at the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, has reportedly stated in a video posted to the mosque’s YouTube account that he believes Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) prevents “hyper-sexuality” in women and endorsed the cutting of a woman’s clitoris in order to prevent her from experiencing the urge to engage and act upon her sexual desires.
The video has since “been removed,” according to YouTube.
In the YouTube lecture, Shaked Elsayed spoke about FGM as the cutting of “the tip of the sexually sensitive part of the girl so that she is not hyper-sexually active.”
In America?
So … are they Muslims?
I guess we’ll have ask Gregorita or Wally Walleed.
Anyway instead of that operation Justin send them to Newcastle or Bundaberg.
A week with Greg would cure them
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Great Greg. So I suggest that as an Anglican priest you try to control the insults and put downs directed at the President of the United States, Margaret Court and many other public figures. And try to be more positive.
i take the position that if people online attack public figures, post articles full of satirical put downs about them, and quote people who continually mock, that it would be okay for me to use satire and playful insults in the same way.
Melly, Explorer pants, Wazza, you have no problem with mercilessly attacking and insulting not only individuals but also whole groups of people.
So, i give it back to show what its like to be on the receiving side.
Plus I have genuinely posted so many facts, counter arguments, statistics and questions that are ignored.
I though this was a place of debate.
It’s not,
It’s just another liberal leftist hangout where conservatives are attacked and insulted.
And like most other places, liberals are used to lampooning and snickering thinking they are clever, but can’t take responses.
Anyway,
Have a good day.
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Yeah, four years ago during a meltdown…in recent times I’ve shown great restraint it to respond in kind to your insults and put downs…I have not insulted or put your down and called you any names: in the past 24 months let’s say…prior to that I was out of control and I am ashamed of that version of me!
Smellya l8a
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For an Anglican Priest /Tony Robbins life coach you sure throw around a lot if put downs insult s and negativity.
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I’m not afraid of Muslims.
I’m saying we need to stop terrorism.
And increasing the Muslim population is not the way to do it.
“‘Grave questions’ over why Melbourne siege gunman was out on parole”
I guess Greg was in charge and was loving his enemies.
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For someone who claims (do you claim to be a Christian anymore?) to be a Christian, you throw around an awful lot of put downs. Well done. Anyhoo, I’m bored with this same old same old – its like groundhog day here now – Q posts anti islam while I post stuff pointing out that the greater majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists – and now – just because a bloke has terrorist ties, a criminal act called murder and kidnap are treated as a terrorist event – Oh please – will somebody please tell me who it is that benefits if we are all scared of the horrible moozies? I won’t bow dow to the God of fear – I worhsip God who said: Love your enemies, pray for those who mistreat you – do not repay evil with evil – so I will never take up Q’s point of view and I’m assuming he won’t take up mine.
So…what;’s the point of cointinuining? Lance has give up on this site – what are we still doing here?
See ya L8a masta b8a
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news.com.au sssures is that terrorism was worse years ago.
Remember the World Trade Center?
““Even in 2001, the year of America’s worst terrorist attack, the likelihood of an American in the United States being killed in a terrorist attack was less than one in 100,000.”
See? It was nothing really.
But in 2001 there were still gays who couldn’t get married and even the Clintons and Obamas were opposed to it.
So in hindsight …… Greg should’ve have turned off the tv on Sept 11 and organized an angry mob to attack the hateful Obamas. (While watching out for lightning strikes)
Right??
The leftist hypocritical raving continues unabated ….
But if it stopped … how could Newcastle Anglicans newbie priests make sermons?
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UK Survey results.
1. Two out of three Muslims would not give information if they knew details about a terror plot involving family or friends.
2. over 50 percent of Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal.
3. 23 percent of Muslims want Sharia law to become the dominant legal system in the country.
4. 31 percent are completely comfortable with one man having multiple wives.
Trevor Phillips, (who popularized the term “islamophobia”) former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said survey results showed
“the unacknowledged creation of a nation within the nation, with its own geography, its own values and its own very separate future.”
“For a long time, I too thought that Europe’s Muslims would become like previous waves of migrants, gradually abandoning their ancestral ways, wearing their religious and cultural baggage lightly, and gradually blending into Britain’s diverse identity landscape.
Liberal opinion in Britain has, for more than two decades, maintained that most Muslims are just like everyone else… But thanks to the most detailed and comprehensive survey of British Muslim opinion yet conducted, we now know that just isn’t how it is.”
Trevor Phillips admitted he was wrong. How long will it take Australian Anglican priests?
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Mosque refuses to bury terrorirsts
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“a href=”http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2017/06/02/when-mosques-refuse-bury-muslim-terrorists”/>Mosque refuses to bury terrorirsts
Fatwa Against Terrorism and Suicide Bombings
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http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2017/06/02/when-mosques-refuse-bury-muslim-terrorists
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Frequent sexual assaults by Muslim migrants in Swedish schools
Lamotte spoke about one school he had visited where migrant sex abuse was prevalent saying: “Young girls tell me they are sexually harassed by newcomer guys both at school and outside of school. They say they do not feel safe in the school corridors. They say they have stopped going home by themselves after school. They say they do not take the bus either.”
Wazza’s response: yes it’s sad. If they were killed they could go to heaven.
Greg’s response: White Swedish racist trash!
Xenophobic nonsense! Just FEEL the Muslim love.
“They are called racists when they talk about their reality and what they face” from the staff at the schools, he said. Having visited schools every week for over a year and a half, Lamotte said he has seen the same story play out again and again.”
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Quote of the day from man clutching a knife would to his throat.
“He looked like a fucking Muslim terrorist”
Latest news, Greg wants to sue him for hate speech. Either jail or compulsory attendance at Greg’s lectures on how wonderful Islam is.
At the end of the program perhaps his wound will have healed and he’ll know that it isn’t possible to ever say someone looked like a Muslim terrorist.
Greg, thy name is idiot.
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“He got me but I dodged it, I ducked and weaved,” Mr Morrison said. “He looked like, I hate because, you know, I know the thing with Muslims and terrorism, but he looked like a f***ing Muslim terrorist.”
Yeah. A white westerner feeling bad for thinking someone looked like a terrorist when he’s cutting his throat.
“Mr Chigbo, who spoke with the attacker on Saturday, said: “We were having a general conversation because I am in the process of moving house at the moment.
“I had a big van up here and he came up to me and said, ‘Oh, Ken, you are moving’. He was usually a really nice, friendly guy but this time it was on a different level of nice.
“It was quite strange and hard to put into words.
“He was asking me where I am moving to, and then he started asking about the van.
“He said to me, ‘Oh, where did you get your van, Ken? How much is it, is it possible to get in automatic?’ – all these specific questions about the van, which obviously now makes sense in my head.
“At the time I didn’t think anything of it.”
Well of course you wouldn’t because he was just the nice Muslim man next door who attended the mosque and liked soccer – until you see him on the news slashing people’s throats at which point Greg the Anglican Islam expert says that he wasn’t Muslim.
No, just because he attends a mosque, is nice, has a wife who wears a burqha, prays five times a day, follows Muslim dietary laws, thinks Mohamed was great and talks about Allah – that doesn’t mean he’s Muslim.
Oh well he maybe Muslim – but the day he cuts your throat then he stopped being a Muslim and well you see then … there is no problem with increasing Muslim immigration because Islam is a religion of peace, and maybe … maybe it was a tweet of Trump’s that offended him and turned him from a nice Muslim into a non-Muslim terrorist after lunch.
Or maybe he stopped being a nice peaceful Muslim because he missed out on a raise at work and as Wazza says the problem is with economic dis-enfranchisement – oh and education. He didn’t have a masters degree.
But – they won’t defeat us.
John placed a teddy bear on the bridge and Sally put a lovely photo on her Facebook profile. And Greg has invited some aborigines to do some more dreamtime stuff at the Anglican Church.
Maybe Greg feels a special affinity with Islam ? It’s founder and the founder of his church had some things in common after all.
So, carry on as usual folks.
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Great timing for Anglican Greg’s dumb posts which are meaningless and offer absolutely no solution to the latest radical Islamic terrorist act.
Seems like Islamic terrorism is the greatest evangelical tool for Muslims of all time.
1. Muslims slaughtered innocent people.
2. Idiots like Greg rush to shout from the rooftops how peaceful and wonderful Muslims are and how there are bad Christians .,
3. People suddenly start praying, placing teddy bears and flowers , pray and say how wonderful Muslims are and start telling Muslims how much they love them.
4. Friends and family of murdering Muslims say there must be a mistake because they were just good decent Muslims who got serious about their faith.
5. Investigation concludes the nice guy Muslims were planning their killings for months and travelled to and from countries Trump wanted a 90 day ban on. And that Daddy was in on it too.
6. People go on to attack Trump and Margaret Court or whatever.
Wait a few weeks then it all starts over again.
But they forget that the teddy bear doctrine doesn’t scare the Muslim terrorists.
Oh I forgot, Wazza chimes in and says nobody should be concerned because a Christian will go to heaven.
Oh yes. Then Greg will talk about non-existent marches and how more people died from lightning strikes on London Bridge last night.
Just wish Greg and Wazza would move to a Muslim country. Greg can hand out flyers for his didgeridoo service and Wazza can hand out flyers for his nude church service . And then get arrested and flogged.
Then they can blog about hi woman peaceful Islam is.
Where’s Bones? Are the rumors true?
That he’s trying to agitate for bisexual marriage equality so he can be joined in holy matrimony with Ian Roberts and Kathy Griffin?
Wake up fools!
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/29/christian-church-destroyed-by-isis-rebuilt-by-muslim-residents-6670055/
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“The Islamic State terrorists overrunning Marawi, a city of some 200,000 on Mindanao, are members of a terrorist organization known as the Maute group. The jihadists attacked Philippine police last week during a siege of the suspected hideout of Isnilon Hapilon, the head of Abu Sayyaf, another jihadist group that has pledged allegiance to the Islamic State. The jihadists interrupted the police operation and then began attacking authorities and positioning themselves to turn Marawi into an Islamic city, raising the ISIS flags over mosques and killing anyone identified as Christian.
Survivors have reported that the terrorists are stopping civilians attempting to flee and forcing them to recite Islamic prayers. Those who cannot recite them are killed immediately, even those who identify as Muslim. Police found a pile of bodies this week labeled “hypocrites,” which they believe to be Muslims that the jihadists found insufficiently devout. Islamic State supporters around the world have used this tactic when attempting to establish an Islamic stronghold.”
Greg, lots of lightning strikes in the Philippines lately. And the Nobel prize winners weren’t hit.
President Wazza wouldn’t care. He’d just hold a press conference and send a “see you in heaven” message.
No.
Isis needs to be wiped out.
And the rest of the Muslims need to be taught that they can’t follow the example of Mohammed.
That they can’t be violent to people of other beliefs.
Islam: What are we afraid of?
Indeed.
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Fact: You are more likely to be struck by lightning in your lifetime than a Muslim is likely to commit a terrorist attack during that same timespan.
This just posted by the Anglican priest was a joke, a typo, a botched copy and paste job?
Do you laugh politely assuming it was a joke to try to lessen the embarassment?
Or do you weep for the sorry state of Anglicanism…..
Alright its obvious that Bones has run away in humiliation, Wazza is reduced to the heavens rewards for martyrs as his solution to terrorism, and Greg – well he’s disgraced himself again. ONe conservative has knocked out a whole tag team of leftist nincompoops.
My work is finished here.
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Fact: you didn’t answer the question
Fact: you just posted the highlights from Sally Kohn’s absurd article from Huffpo.
Fact: Her facts are not facts
Fact: Anyone who quotes these facts just doesn’t think and deserves to be whipped on the backside in the town square.
Really???
I don’t have time to go at length through this.
It’s just too stupid for words.
But if you like just google the ridiculous article and read where other people have taken the time to show how ridiculous it is.
Greg, you just have to stop quoting these people.
They write nonsense.
Try telling ASIO etc that they forget Islamic terrorism and should spend more time on lightning strike prevention.
Seriously disappointed in you.
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Fact: Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the US and Europe.
Fact: Five out of the past 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners were Muslims.
Fact: You are more likely to be struck by lightning in your lifetime than a Muslim is likely to commit a terrorist attack during that same timespan.
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“Islam:What are we afraid of?”
Okay, since people want to assume that REAL Muslims are peaceful, and that anyone who is violent at all is not a real Muslim even if they study the Koran, quote it, pray five times a day, live by most of it’s moral code, and shout Allahu Akbar all the time…..
can you define the sect of Islam that is not really a sect, so that we know who is doing the beheading and bombing in the various countries of the world?
Whose up for it?
Sunni? Shiite? Salafi? Sufi? Wahabi? Takfiri? Deobandi? Hanafi? Khauriji? Ahmadiyya?
How much do any of you know about these groups?
It’s hard enough getting three commentators on groupsects to agree on who is a real Christian, so I’m not sure which of you is going to be able to really decide on what is a real Muslim, because the group who seem to be the MOST peaceful are the and the other Muslims say they are NOT Muslims.
All I know is that wherever there is a bombing, you’ll find that the person spent time at the local mosque and liked saying Allu Akbar and called themselves a Muslim who didn’t like people dissing Allah or Mohabbed.
In other words, as obnoxious as Westboro Baptists are and as money hungry some prosperity preachers are, they aren’t the ones planting explosives to blow up and maim children – either targeting “infidels” in Manchester or Shiite Muslims in Bagdad.
None of you have any solution whatsover. Except for some inexplicable reason you think more Muslims of the various sects coming into Western countries is completely irrelevant.
Okay ^ no insults. Just questions?
Can anyone answer without insulting Trump?
Over to you guys.
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“The majority of people in Sweden believe the media is dishonest about problems in society associated with mass migration, according to research presented by the nation’s Institute of Media Studies.”
“The mainstream media in Sweden has been accused of habitual censorship: photographs of migrant criminal suspects are routinely pixelated, with even their skin tones changed, in order to hide the extent of migrant crime”
The only people who support increased Muslim immigration are people who don’t live near Muslims.
Merkel should go live with Muslims.
But she’s never do it. Neither will Greg or Wazza.
If they did they would change their lifestyles to no time offend in ways they never would to not offend Christians.,
So, is it cowardice or just hatred of Jesus that turns liberals into blatant hypocrites?
That’s the burning question.
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UPDATE (25 May): Nine Christian civilians were reportedly shot dead at a militant-run checkpoint in the besieged city of Marawi in the southern Philippines on Tuesday (23 May).
Filipino news site GMA News Online – one of the biggest news and public affairs networks in the country – reported that local residents identified the nine as Christians, saying they had been pulled from a truck, had their hands bound and then their bodies riddled with bullets and left in a field.
This latest update comes as a Catholic priest and 13 other Christians are still reportedly being held by the Islamists, who have laid siege to the city, setting fire to buildings including a cathedral and Protestant-run college, and erecting the black flags of ISIS.
“Islam: what are we afraid of?”
Is the dumbest question since a Jewish kid in Berlin asked his father “Papa, is Hitler really that bad?”
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We’ll stop terrorism through
1. Education programs
2. The West stops interfering
That’s the liberal mantra.
Okay
1.
“A combination of government benefits and low-interest loans meant to pay for further education were used to fund the terror plot of Manchester killer Salman Abedi, police believe.
Police are investigating the finances of university dropout turned Islamist killer Salman Abedi, and was in receipt of thousands of pounds of government money before the attack, reports the Daily Telegraph. Police sources told the paper the killer even got government handouts while he was abroad in Libya, where it is believed he was being trained in bomb making.”
2. See the bombings in Baghdad today?
Isis blowing up Shiites. First one killed children buying ice-cream at night after Ramadan fasting.
Second killed elderly people.
Muslim on Musli atrocity.
The country might change and the reasons given might change. But with the different sects in Islam and even within groups like the Muslim Brotherhood this just isn’t an easy thing to solve.
But – increasing the numbers of Muslims in your country is not a good idea.
Such a simple logical concept – that really can’t be argued with. But liberals do.
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Damn it Greg. Respect!
Take it on the chin?
I hereby take back all the girlie man comments.
IF they don’t make you a priest, Ill go down and protest1
Now.see the problem I have with many liberal journalists
As for not being real Muslims….we’ve spent 2000 years trying to argue about who the real Christians are. Whats a real Muslim ?
There are more Muslims who believe in Jihad then there are in this se
I’ll take these guys anyway of the week. I don’t believe that the founder was the fulfillment of any prophecy anymore than I believe in Joesph Smith.
but….if they go from being one percent to 100% the world would be in a better place.
So, basically I wish every Muslims would become a Christian. Failing that, let them become this groups or believe the same way re violence.
As for the other story about the guy stabbing the Muslims – terrible isn’t it.
If I were there I would have tried to stop him.
And being the macho man that I am,i think i could have…….
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Ok – I’ll take that on the chin – not real muslims.
The random guy yelling at muslims? Not the guy who stabbed three people who tried to calm him down, two of whom died?
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https://mic.com/articles/151681/over-30-000-muslims-in-the-uk-marched-against-isis-of-course-you-didn-t-hear-about-it#.BcOLuVXHA
Okay, Greg, Wazza and Bones.
Here is the problem with the way you guys debate. And the problem with liberal news journalism.
Its either stupid, or evil and deceptive. I won’t write a lot on this but keep it as short and to the point as possible.
1. Muslisms commit yet another atrocitiy,
2. Greg says “hey Muslims are good”
3. Greg says “I can prove it” and posts a link as proof citing some liberal journalist.
4. The article is fake. Or being as kind as possible – INCREDIBLY misleading.
Greg and young liberal ournalist argue that the US news deliberately FAIL to report on the 30,000 Muslim march against terror. YOu would assume this is after Manchester
Only problem. THere was no march. THat’s right. There was no march.
Its like a Get Smart routine… “You’re surrounded by 300 heavily armed agents” becomes “would you believe two drunk boy scouts and Wazza bearing sling shots”
Here are the facts.
1. No march. 30,000 members of the Ahmadiyya sect had the annual world conference on a farm in England and as part of that there was a public statement about terrorism.
Wow what a leap.
2. THis was last year. Not this year. It was no special event. No special gathering to make a statement about terorism at all. There are only 30,000 Ahmadiyya Muslims in England, so this was a big deal for them. So this is like the Hillsong Conference. Or the world gathering of the Jehovah’s WItnesses. SO, no wonder the US media didn’t have wall to wall coverage of the Muslim March.
No, this was no march outside Buckingham Palace. This was a Muslim campmeeting on a farm!!
3. This sect believes their founder was the promised messiah of the end times! So, no other Muslims accept them. They are considered apostates!!!. The British Muslim Council doesn’t ever recognize them!!! Get it!! So you’ve got a soon to be ANglican priest who obviously knows NOTHING about Islam, and NOTHING about the way news works on the internet.
But – great little sect . They are completely against violence and jihad. Ironically, Muslims don’t agree with them, reject them, and none of them joined this march around the farm.
4.. This journalist that the Anglican respects so much? Another article I saw? About some randomw white guy who yelled at Muslims in AMerica.
So shes a young American Muslim who conitnually publishes articles about poor Muslim suffering.
I get that she has had some nasty comments from time to time.
But she isn’t being beaten up or beheaded.
But – that’s no excuse for completely irresponsible journalism.
And Greg? Please!!! Once you become and Newcastle ANglican priest PLEASE check things before you use them as evidence when you inflict liberal nonsense on the dwindlying members of your parish.
Or at least – tell them to turn their hearing aids off.
Man. Was Bones your teacher in school or something?
Lift your game Newcastle!
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Go ahead – embarrass me
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But – Christians are tough.
The evil murderous hate from Muslims won’t prevail.
The only way Islam will win is if they continue to deceive gullible and ignorant white liberals..
“Survivors of the attack said that the ten masked Islamic State militants did not merely open fire on the bus full of Christian pilgrims on their way to the Monastery of Saint Samuel the Confesor, but that the victims were made to descend from the bus and asked one by one whether they were Christians before being shot by the assailants.”
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I’m not afraid of Muslims.,
But some Egyptian Christians are ( and not just from Isis )
TEL AVIV – Writing in an encrypted chat room, Islamic State sympathizers and militants celebrated the deadly terrorist attack against a bus of Coptic Christian pilgrims in Egypt on Friday, and warned that Christians in the country should expect more
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I’m not afraid of Muslims.
But this guy and his parents are.,
Beatings and abuse from Muslim classmates have been cited by the parents of a Jewish teenager as the reason they removed him from a leading Berlin school.
The 14-year-old was born in London to a British mother and a German father. According to a report in the Sunday Times, the student was kicked and punched by students of Middle Eastern and Turkish origin so many times he was left fearing for his life. One of the attackers is alleged to have threatened to shoot him with a mock gun he believed was real.
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“https://mic.com/articles/151681/over-30-000-muslims-in-the-uk-marched-against-isis-of-course-you-didn-t-hear-about-it#.BcOLuVXHA”
This link of Gregs is the most absurd thing I’ve read in ages.
And it’s symbolic of all that is wrong with Greg’s approach to debate, and the sorry state of liberal journalism.
Check out the link Greg. Do a few minutes of googling and you’ll realize that you linking that to this argument is unbelievably silly.
Shame on you. But shame on the journalist.
Its really laughable.
If you like I’ll explain, but it will be extremely humiliating for you.
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“I would have thought any Christian would have been happy to die, in the assurance of the after-life with Christ.”
If that is your answer to someone who is trying to protect civilians from bodily harm and murder, then I think you have a completely warped idea of the Christian’s “blessed assurance”.
If you think that a Christian having no fear of death means that they don’t lock doors, watch traffic, don’t believe in having a police force, military or ideas about national security, then I think you are crazier than I thought.
I am not afraid of death. I still have ideas about security. Have you been smoking weed?
“If you are as fearful and alarmed as the general fox-news watching conservative public, then I can’t see how your Christian values distinguish your behaviour from the rest of the herd.”
I don’t watch Fox that much. Not much at all actually.
My favorites were OReilly but he’s gone, Megyn “what a babe” Kelly, but shes gone and Alan Colmes the super liberal but he’s dead.
Herd? Herd would refer more to people who follow liberal news networks because they comprise about 80%. I’m not fearful and alarmed. But i’ve been pointing out that millions around the world who have to live with Muslims ARE fearful.. Not all of them are Christians.
“Jesus said to Love you enemies and do good to those who hate you. Do you believe it or are you going to water it down?”
Yes, I believe it. I’m not going to water it down. Do you think a person who believes in that just watches as children get killed?
I don’t. If I saw a child getting raped or molested or someone being killed, I’d intervene. And that intervention might result in pain, death or injury to the bullies.
So, if your wife or daugher is being raped, don’t worry. I will step in and save them while you sit back and do nothing because you want to be loving.
Wazza, I think you need to do more study on the beatitudes.
But if you think they are mean to be taken literally, and no “watered down”, then I expect you’d have no arms, And now that you mention it – give me 10,000 dollars.
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I would have thought any Christian would have been happy to die, in the assurance of the after-life with Christ. I’m a bit worried about the process but not the end result.
If you are as fearful and alarmed as the general fox-news watching conservative public, then I can’t see how your Christian values distinguish your behaviour from the rest of the herd.
Jesus said to Love you enemies and do good to those who hate you. Do you believe it or are you going to water it down?
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Greg.
Do you really understand that link you posted.
Hint. Read what that link was about,
I’ll give you till tomorrow.
Then I’ll explain the link, and also the problems with you, the journalist who wrote it, and liberals in general.
And, it will be absolutely humiliating for you.
So, I’ll give you a chance.
then i’ll make some points. And if you only read this next post of mine, that’s all you’ll ever need to read.
Because, you posting that link, shows everything that is wrong with the liberal world.
Study up my friend.
the truth will set you free.
PS, Wazza and Bones who is lurking – please wait for my next post. It applies to you too.
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” Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said if Americans knew what he knew about terrorism threats they would “never leave the house.”
Give that man Wazza’s book on The Joys of Dying”.
And tell him there were Muslims marching for peace on the “other side of the world” and if that anything happens again not to worry because Greg the Aussie Anglican says there’s a good chance he’ll run into a friendly Muslim taxi driver.
No worries mate!
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https://mic.com/articles/151681/over-30-000-muslims-in-the-uk-marched-against-isis-of-course-you-didn-t-hear-about-it#.BcOLuVXHA
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“The number of refugees in Germany capable of committing terrorist attack in the country has quadrupled since 2011, the German Federal Criminal Police Office, BKA, told government broadcaster Deutsche Welle.”
Greg- do you understand this?
Wazza – do you understand this?
Your answer to this I should to tell the Germans they’ll go to heaven and some of the nicer Muslim taxi drivers will give them free rides after the explosion?
Really?
Your stupidity isn’t cute anymore.
No?
Still not?
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Wazza. “orange dictator”?
Just another liberal lemming throwing childish insults.
Following the media’s lead.
Notice how successful and praised Trump has been in his overseas trip?
The media can’t attack , so they stoop to just picking the worst photos or making up stories about Melania not holding hands.
It’s like high school all over again.
You and liberal media and immature “resisters” can’t do anything with facts so it’s just hateful childish pranks.
Pathetic.
He won, you lost. And we need a President to lead the fight against the TRUE evil in the world.
Obama failed miserably.
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Well, looks like my work is finished here.
The only argument the looney liberals have is…
Wazza. As a christian, I shouldnt be fearful of dying because the Romans killed the early Chrlistians.
Gregorita the ex-liberal Anglican – At the latest massacre there were some Muslim taxi drivers who have free rides.
Yep. That’s all they’ve got folks.
I’ll leave you with this.
“The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.”
But – we should all be happy to die and a few Muslim taxi drivers will help out with rides to the morgue and the hospital so…..
no more walls, no more borders, let more Muslims in.
Now, let’s get back to the real work of attacking Trump, boycotting Coopers Beer and bankrupting Christian bakers..
And….. I hear a nun when shopliffting in a convenience store in Timbuktoo.
Oh….don’t mention the Newcastle Anglican pedophile priests. I did but I think I got away with it..
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Greg, its very simple. The more muslims there are in a country, the more radicalized ones there are.
It’s maths.
Do you understand that?
Greg. SImple questions. What percentage of Muslims in England think terrorism is okay.
Answer.
What percentage of Muslims in France are willing to blow people up.
ANswer.
Then ask yourself, what percentage of Newastle Anglicans believe that its okay to be a suicide bomber.
ANswer.
Then look at where terrorist acts are taking place.
ANs ask yourself the simple question.
WOuld more Muslims make a country a better place? Freer of terrorist threats?
Most sensible people could answer that in the time it takes you to comb your hair.
Its really just so simple.
And having a few muslims giving people lifts doesn’t change the basic problem.
And may I remind you of the nature of the website you are on.
If only a few nice Christian taxi drivers would stop the years of Christian bashing on this website, but it didn’t.
Really. That’s all you got?
Yeah, people. Don’t worry. The next time radical Islamic terrorists blow your kids up, there will be some moderate Muslim taxi drivers to give you a free ride to the hospital.
Wow! see , no problems.
Okay the ex-liberal Anglican thinks all is well because you can always count of free taxi rides at the next bombing!
Might even get a kebab outside the funeral.
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Wazza, I’m not afraid personally.
But I’m a man. I want to protect people.
Based on your logic, it would have been wrong to defend againt the Japanese, or fight the Germans and liberate the Jews.
I lock my doors. I drive safely. I believe in maintaining law and order and preventing bombings.
That makes me wrong because I’m “afraid”. And its not on the other side of the world.
WOUld you like me to give you a list of the places Muslims have murdered, raped bombed.
You act like Manchester is a one off. It isn’t. It’s just another in a long line.
And as for Australia. You forget Bali? You forget Monis. You forget the 12 major terrorist attacks that law enforcement have prevented.
Orange dictator?
You black dictator has done more bombing than anyone. And at times he stopped migrants.
You don’t think even the old white dictator Bernie would have ANY policies to reduce terrorism?
So Wazza, the faith-filled CHristian. YOu don’t believe in police, armies, walls?
Wazza, tear down your fence, keep your door open at night, and let Muslims live in your back yard if you want to be logically consistent.
But you won’t.
No, I’m not afraid. One on one against a Muslim? no make that me against three of four its okay, but I want to protect women and kids. Unlike your average limp-wristed liberal girlie man, who is happy to bend over anytime .
Think Wazza.
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Q is afraid of being bombed and dying. But Paul said to live is Christ and to die is gain.
The early Christians had their entire governments and societies wanting to persecute and kill them, yet they did not change their lifestyle. They didn’t insult and demean other people who didn’t agree with them. Yet now a small radicalised group commit crimes on the other side of the world and Q loses his head with fear.
So much fear he will salute a bumbling and annoying orange dictator if he says he will build a wall to keep them out.
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Islam, what are we afraid of?
Nothing.
Ram Albedi, what are afraid of?
Radicalized criminal People like your son!
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/23/muslims-have-started-a-fundraiser-using-the-hashtag-muslimsformanchester-6656846/
So which Muslims should we fear? The taxi driving ones giving free lifts in their taxis for people needing transport in the wake of the Manchester crime?
I pray for the day when people will wake up to the fact that it is not Islam we should fear, but radicalized criminals who are also Muslims.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/visitmymosque-uk-muslims-open-doors-fight-bigotry-170205183044673.html
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In no way shape or form am I a liberal Anglican.
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In other news relevant Tobita the question
“Islam, what are we afraid of?”
“The Iraqi asylum seeker who raped a 10-year-old boy in a swimming centre in Vienna will have his sentence reduced from six to four years after a judge felt his punishment was too “draconian”.
On the 2nd of December 2015, the 20-year-old Iraqi Amir A. brutally raped a 10-year-old boy at the Theresienbad in Vienna and shocked the country after claiming that he had a “sexual emergency”.
Hey Gregorita,
You know that photo of the guy with the “I’m Muslim- don’t panic” TShirt that you laughed about days before another Islamic terrorist attack?
On the back of the Tshirt it says “Unless I have a sexual emergency”
And at the bottom in Arabic “And my Uncle Ramadan works in airport security nyuk nyuk”
There’s a funny Tshirt you could mock me with Mr Anglican
“Don’t Panic. uncle RAmadan works in airport security”
EXCept Greg – nobody is laughing anymore.
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” Ramadan Abedi told The Associated Press that he spoke to his son five days ago and that Salman Abedi sounded “normal” while he talked about his upcoming trip to Saudi Arabia.
“We don’t believe in killing innocents. This is not us,” Abedi said.
Gregorita believes you…and he has a funny Tshirt to send you.
News Flash – Ramadan the lovely Muslim airport security worker has been arrested along with his other son.
“Islam, what are we afraid of?”
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Attention all Liberal Anglicans.
DO NOT ENGAGE ME – JUST READ! Lol
So, the lovely nice old very normal Muslim family in Manchester.
It seems the same old damn story!!!
A bomb goes off.
A suspect is found.
He’s a Muslim.
The same story again.
Boston bombers – you name it.
Everyone says the SAME DAMN THING!
1. Recently he got more devoted to Allah
2. “Oh his father will be so disappointed”
3. His father “My son is innocent”
4. Whole family is found to be living in the community while hating the country that accepted them and plotting to kill their neighbors kids.
5. Intelligint person with common sense says the obvious “let’s not increase the Muslim population – more Muslims =more murder”
6. Idiot liberal posts funny Tshirt pics saying how wonderful Muslims are
It happens over and over and over again.
And it will continue.
One thing I agree with.
The real problem is not Muslims.
No- it’s the idiot white liberals who have lost all sense of reasoning and want a death wish.
And get this – his father who was also a terrorist ??
Working in AIRPORT SECURITY!!!
Conclusion..
Most white western liberals are fat.
The fat cells have affected their brains and they can’t think straight. How else do you explain it?
But who cares.
The liberals are more interested in whether Trump and Melania old hands all day.
And CNN is talking about
russians.
The devil is laughing.
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Here’s an intelligence test for Gregorita.
There are now 5000 soldiers on the streets in England. Critical levels.,
So… where would you be looking for people likely to be plotting another strike.
1. The evil Hillsongers who are guilty of playing loud music and being just way too happy.
2. Among boring Anglicans playing bingo to raise money for their broken down church to get it ready in time for the funeral of one of their youngest members – who is 87.
3. The ….. eh … you know , that other religion that Greg insists is just beautiful but a little misunderstood and seems to feature a lot whenever there is devastating news.
Get it right and you could win either one of those hilarious Tshirts you posted or ….. a trip to Mecca!
Think hard.
Yes this is humor.
But maybe just maybe you will see that the question “Islam, what are we afraid of?” Is as ridiculous as asking the Anglican Church for the secrets of their incredible church growth!
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Great. Don’t engage Gregorita .
Just read and lthink and learn.
“Islam . What are we afraid of?”
Okay… go read the BBC website.,plenty there.
But here’s some highlights for the liberals.
1. The Islamic man who bombed the kids had been to university.
So much for the insane liberal mantra we’ve been hearing for decades about “education is the solution” . Rubbish.
If you’d like I can provide the educational qualifications of the terrorists involved in the last 5 years of murder and mayhem.
Unless Gregs answer is to make sure Muslims get free masters degrees??
2. He visited Syria from Libya for training.
Hmm weren’t they in Trumps 6 country temporary ban?? You know that made Greg and the Libersls shout “Racist, racist, you’re a dirty racist!”
There’s a reason for a temporary ban.
But, go ahead Greg, let everyone in!!
3. He was known in the neighborhood. Probably someone reported him to the police or wanted to but was scared of being seen as anti-Muslim by one of Greg’s friends.
And that’s the problem. People are too scared to state the obvious.
Oh next news- southern Philippines. Do they get Mindanao news in Newcastle .
Oh more news. Monis the Muslim…..
Remember that lovely believer in the fabulous religion of pieces (yes the spelling was intended)?
Well two mistakes were made according to the findings.
1. Why was he still at large after all his history of assaults and violence? Insane. Easy – go find the politically correct looney liberals involved.
2. They didn’t think he would kill.
What????????
A Muslim? A follower of Mohammed? A guy with his history????
All Muslims , and anyone with half a brain would know that he was capable of killing?
Who wouldn’t have guessed?
A few flakey liberals and the Funny Muslim Tshirt salesman from Newcastle??
Crazy.
We can stop the murder and mayhem if we just use our brains.
But laughing and asking “Islam – what are we afraid of ” isn’t the way.
In other news, Kateyama Perry wants love and open borders – while having an 8 foot fence around her mansion.
Yes – dumb white hypocrites don’t only live in Newcastle.
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Gregorita is a term of endearment.
Greg sounds too white.
Just trying to spread the love around.
Like Kate Perry . Her answer to Manchester?
“and love on each other,” Perry said, adding, “No barriers, no borders, we all just need to co-exist.”
……..
No borders.
This is insane.
Another maiming .
Gregorita and co will break out the didgeridoo, praise Islam say how we should …. just do nothing, let more Muslims in . And just realize that we have to get used to being bombed and killed . That’s life in a big city.
Muslims please come .
Maybe if we let them have their own swimming pools?
Wait. Let’s start having calls to prayer from loudspeakers.
Let’s just unite.
Oh… why not just become Muslims?
Gregorita won’t engage.
Fine Greg. YOure too busy moving house into the Muslim enclave and buying long skirts for your wife.
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And there you go, straight in to the personal disrespectful attacks. I’m done engaging with you.
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Watch this space Explorer. I’m going to come up with an analogy about a certain religion so that maybe even YOU can understand the problem we have here.
Hint. It will be a “What if it were Anglicans who were bombing, raping, beheading, killing, drowning, burning, flying planes into buildings, murdering Olympic athletes, etc etc all around the world while quoting the common book of prayer.
I’ll talk about Anglicans, Church of England, Episcopalians, high church, low church, and comic book writers getting stabbed for daring to make King Henry jokes.
Give me some time to flesh it out. I think finally you will undertand if we replace the M word with the A word.
sigh …..it’s kind of strange that I have to spell it out so much.
Do i need to do it? Or can you just put on your thinking cap and ask yourself whether more Muslims coming into England will make for a happier, more peaceful place.
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Sure Gregorita.
Start up a little Anglican Church in a Muslim area.
Please.
The sound of the didgeridoo will blend well with the call to prayer.
Greg, seriously . If you can’t admit that the more Muslim migration increases the risk of terrorism increases, then you’re either lying or just challenged ….
Oh…
Manchester.
Ask some law enforcement and ASIO people about your theories and statistics.
Looking forward to hearing your about your parish among the Muslims.
When are you starting?
First service be sure to preach about the beauty of gay marriage.
They’ll like that one!
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THIS IS the crime tool from BOCSAR
One day you’ll stop your chicken little act Q – maybe
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THIS is a great story which reflects with accuracy the situation in Muslim communities in Sydney
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Yes -that is awful and disgusting and absolutely criminal – but has not one thing to do with being a muslim – if so, women wouldn’t walk around Lakemba and surrounding areas such as Punchbowl, Wiley Park, Bankstown and Auburn. In fact if you do a search based on “sex offences” at <a href="http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/"THIS SITE the BOCSAR web page, you will find that sex crimes are DOWN in muslim areas as opposed to areas surrounding them which are up.
In the Lakemba, Punchbowl and Campsie the sex crime rate per 100,000 population is 83.7 well below the NSW rate per 100,000 population: 158.3.
Those bad muslims – they be bad – they be sexin’ up on our wiminz – we be betta scared o dem folks.
No thanks – I’d be perfectly happy to live in a muslim neighbourhood.
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Wherever there are lots of Muslim migrants women are afraid
Women in the east Paris district of Chapelle-Pajol are claiming that they cannot leave their homes without being subjected to verbal abuse from migrants in the area.
Over the past year or so the district has become a no-go area for women as migrants and drug dealers have flooded the area. Dozens of these groups of young men crowd the streets, harassing women who walk by wearing what they consider to be immodest clothing Le Parisien reports.
The situation for women has gotten so bad in the area that many women are effectively banned from cafes and bars. 50-year-old Natalie, who has been a resident of the area for 30 years said, “these are insults, incessant reflections. The atmosphere is agonising, to the point of having to modify our itinerary, our clothes. Some even gave up going out.”
An 80-year-old female resident is said to have totally stopped leaving her apartment after being sexually assaulted as she was returning home one day.
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“Coptic Christian families from North Sinai in Egypt, who have been displaced following numerous attacks by the Islamic State terror group and other radicals, say they are “suffering” due to government neglect.”
To which Newcastle Anglicans chuckle and send a “scary Muslim” T-shirt, and tell them there’s all different kinds of Muslims.
Great work, Newcastle!
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1. You as some old white fat Australian would-be Anglicans priest has no problem with calling the President of the United States an idiot in a public forum.
And you complain that me not doubting your internet search skills is a put-down?
After commenting here for years, I honestly don’t know whether you guys can search properly.
Anti-Semite websites, fake photos.
It’s been a wild ride here.
Okay, I’ll try to assume everyone’s google skills have improved.
Yes there are many kinds of Muslims and Christians.
But I go by statistics.
Google
1. murder and rape while the attackers yell Allahu Akbar as opposed to Thank you Jesus.
2. How many countries are experiencing terrorism by Muslims as opposed to Christians.
3. Crime in Muslim enclaves in Europe – take Sweden where nobody was afraid of Muslims.
4. Statistics of what percentage of Muslims support terrorism as opposed to Christians.
Yes there are different kinds of people.
So …. yes, I don’t think it’s a good idea to have increasing proportions of Muslims in western countries.
Go live in a Muslim enclave with your daughters and get back to me.
I’m personally not scared – because me against three I could handle myself.
But in 30 years when I’m a frail old man with the strength of Wazza or Bones – I will no doubt experience fear in a Muslim suburb.
If you don’t want to read – then travel overseas more.
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So…the people who do these things happen to be muslims (of some kind – apparently, just like there are all sorts of Christians, there are all sorts of Muslims) and that requires me to be scared of all Muslims? Sorry – I don’t share your fear laden view of the world Q.
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Is it possible for you to post a comment without including a put down of some kind?
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So no matter how many people get raped, beaten, killed, bombed, beheaded by Muslims across the planet, Gregory will be able to put up silly photos of Tshirts?
That is an outrageous slap in the face to the rape and murder victims and their parents.,
Incredibly insensitive.
So, back to the question?
What are we afraid of?
People are afraid of Muslims obviously.
Gregory, stop googling funny pics for a while,
Google “Asian” problems in England.
First , the grooming of white girls by “Asians”
Then the high death rates of children due to incest in the “Asian” community in certain areas of England.,
Since you may not have the skill to do that, I’ll explain.
They use the word “Asian” to stay politically correct – can.’tell offend the group that it to scary to mention – Pakistani Muslims.
So, go wear your “scary Muslim” T-shirt and try to educate the Pakistani Muslims that it’s wrong to force young white girls in prostitution and it’s wrong to impregnate family members.
Maybe these things don’t bother you, but people are really troubled over there – especially Asians who get included in that term , when the problem is Muslims.
Read up.
It’s not funny.,
Neither is the rest of the Muslim murdering going on.
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Mammooty, left, piously wears traditional Muslim cowboy boots and drives only an Islamic motorbike.
Yousuf Bashir Qureshi dresses in a dhoti and a kurta wherever he goes. And of course, a traditional pair of red and white sneakers.
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You’re right Q – I do need to start getting scared..this is a photo I fond of scary Muslims probably planning to bomb something somewhere:
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The BBC, citing a report into the scandal, states that it involved at least 1,400 children and repeated coverup attempts by officials who urged researchers and victims alike to never speak about the ethnicity of the men committing the atrocities.
Ask families of girls in England what they’re afraid of.
Guess which religion the police didn’t Dad mention.
Someone send Wally over to cover this story.
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Emolument….
For liberals to have no problem with the shenanigans with Bill and Hillary and their foundation but now be worried about hotels is just more damning hypocricy.
Wazza, call an American constitutional lawyer and make your case. Lol
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@Greg.,
Okay.
So, I’m answering the caption on the video.
“Islam, what are we afraid of?”
And I’m answering on a website that is supposedly about religion that basically posts articles about bad Christians to prove some point ,
So , Islam , what are we afraid of?
Well , here’s something from the BBC. Just another example of the horrifying anti-Semitism increasing in Europe that co-incides with the increase of the Muslim population.
“A video of an imam appearing to call for the murder of Jews in a sermon during Friday prayers at a Copenhagen mosque has caused outrage in Denmark.
Mundhir Abdallah was reported to police after being filmed citing in Arabic a hadith – a teaching of the Prophet Muhammad – considered anti-Semitic.
The hadith says the Day of Judgement “will not come unless the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them”.
A Jewish community leader said his words were a “thinly-veiled” threat.
Videos of the sermon were posted on YouTube and Facebook by the Al-Faruq Mosque on Sunday, although Mr Abdallah reportedly gave it on 31 March.
Anti-Semitism exposes legal gaps in Europe
What is jihadism?
A part of the 30-minute address was later translated by the Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri).
In the video, Mr Abdallah is seen standing in front of a black flag with the Shahadah written on it, similar to those used by jihadist groups such as al-Qaeda.
He declares there will soon be a “caliphate” – a state governed in accordance with Islamic law, or Sharia – that will wage jihad to unite the Muslim community and liberate the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem “from the filth of the Zionists”.
As for disrespect, there is no respect shown for the President of the United States here. No respect for “funnies”. No respect for charismatics. And celebrities who nightly lampoon and belittle conservatives and Christians are quoted.
I thought those who make fun of people didn’t mind being made fun of.
Sorry
So, you’re not afraid of Islam? I predict you will be when the population of Newcastle gets to 10 or 20%.
In fact I’ll be happy to bet on it. Unless of course you become a rich, left-wing politician who lives in a posh community where you don’t seem them.
So , this comment respectful enough for you?
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Some thoughts:
Firstly, I’m sick of your constant belittling of us simply because you disagree with us
Secondly – what, in anything that any of us have ever said, makes you think that any of us would find the behaviour described in this story as justifiable in any way?
Third, if you can’t communicate with us without belittling with some kind of snide remark or smart arse put down, just don’t bother. Ok?
If you can’t comment or communicate respectfully (please don’t simply regurgitate all the shit from the past – I know – I was a complete arse – I know I was there – forget it already Q – put it down and move on) don[t bother referring to me in you comments – I won’t be continuing to communicate with you- just comment respectfully please Q – I certainly am doing my best to communicate with you respectfully.
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Bit of a longer version version.
Simple answer.
Bones can become principal, Greg can be School chaplain, Mr Groupsects can teach sex education and Wazza can be the guidance counselor.
Maybe Melly can be the blaspheming gardener.
After a month you can all come back and write about The Joy of Islam.
Sorry Wally the Muslim, you still haven’t reassured us.
Students as young as in Year 5 are making the threats and pressuring peers into reading the Koran at Punchbowl Public School in Sydney’s southwest, the Daily Telegraph has reported.
Documents given to the newspaper reportedly reveal that at least three staff members have taken stress leave, received counselling and been paid compensation after bullying from Islamic students.
One woman reportedly claimed it all got too much for her and she eventually had to quit her job.
She said the final straw was when she received death threats to her family from her year 5 and 6 students, with some saying they would behead her.
Prior to that she claimed she made a number of complaints in 2014 about some of the behaviour in her classroom.
She said she was abused by students when she stopped them from hanging a Syrian flag in the classroom.
The woman also said she was pushed into a corner by several students who then began marching around her chanting the Koran.
Many of the students also reportedly spoke of family members fighting in the war in Syria and pupils would walk out mid-way through a lesson to go and pray.
The woman also reported an instance of bullying during which students would say to that the child being targeted had “betrayed his religion” by “not going to Muslim scripture”.
She said in an earlier incident a “group of boys had stood around a girl and called her horrible names like dog”.
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Hey, where’s Bones.
He’d love teaching at Punchbowl!
Yeah. Islam? Nothing to be afraid of.
Comments girls?
STUDENTS are showing signs of extreme radicalisation as early as Year 5, including threatening to behead teachers, bullying peers into reading the Koran and even demanding the Syrian flag be put up in the classroom.
Documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph reveal how frightened teachers at Punchbowl Public School have resorted to making formal complaints over fears of religious violence inside the classroom.
It’s also understood at least three teachers have taken stress leave, received counselling or been paid compensation because of bullying from Islamic students.
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Islam, what are we afraid of?
Well Swedish women are afraid of being raped.
Nigerians are afraid of being bombed and shot.
Filipinos afraid of being shot.
Workers in New York were afraid of having planes crashed into their buildings.
Party-goers in Bali afraid of being bombed.
Dutch afraid of being stabbed if they went too far with satire.
People in Nice afraid of being run over by trucks.
Oh , they are in Berlin too.
Gay night club goers afraid on being shot in Florida.
Office workers afraid “supposedly” of Muslims being offended about a Christmas party and then going on a killing rampage.
Lost people going to big sporting events hoping security stops Muslims from detonating a bomb.
Many people in planes hoping a Muslim won’t try to bring the plane down.
I could go on.
Actually you could write a book.
Maybe you could make a website about it.
But here’s the good news.
“TERRORISTS planned an Islamic State inspired Christmas Day bomb attack targeting Melbourne landmarks including Federation Square and Flinders Street Station, police claim.”
They stopped some in Melbourne.
Just as well the police are watching these things.
Wherever there are Muslims, people are afraid.
Radicalized Muslims, or those that might get radicalized tomorrow because of a friend on the internet, anger over Obamas drones, a coming book, a satirical video., Christmas decorations, or just someone wanting to relive the glory days of the start of Islam when zags “prophet” encouraged his followers to kill and rob and subjugate all the way to Europe.
Wallydiesnf mind of course.
Why should he?
Until he himself gets bombed Why care?
Nothing to be afraid of.
Just put concrete blocks in roads leading to markets, have more police watching public events, maybe police guarding the doors if Coptic churches in Egypt.
Hey, did you guys see the completely evil video of the Muslim sending his daughters off on suicide missions?
I couldn’t watch it all.
Islam? There is a lot to be afraid of,if you have kids and people you love – unless you are a radical Muslim or a complete idiot.
But among liberals – yes- there are a lot of them.
Solutions from looney liberal Christians this year?
Take down crosses, take down Christmas decorations, prayer rooms facing to Nexca in churches, stop German girls wearing shirt skirts,
Different times for women at pools.
I guess just make the world Muslim?
That would be politically correct.
Islam ….. ?
Just read the news.
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Well Greg the Explore will call this an insane article – but he hasn’t been to Germany and doesn’t live with Muslims. Calls others insane but has called for TWO MILLION MUSLIM immigrants instead of me. lol Fine, I don’t live in Australia. So, let’s send 2 million to Newcastle to live next to Gregorita.
Read to the end.
NO-GO ZONES are emerging throughout Germany as they have become “lawless” places where even POLICE are attacked as a result of mass migration, according to a report.
Gangs of men are preventing people from straying into once vibrant areas of the country for fear of violence, and abuse that even law enforcement has been unable to control.
There are as many as 40 places named in confidential police reports – despite repeated denials from officers – according to a report by US think-thank Gatestone Institute.
In Duisburg, neighbourhoods have been reportedly “divided” by Lebanese gangs who deal drugs, extort businesses and frequently rob.
A 17-page report prepared for the NRW State Parliament revealed the extent of the problems.
Attacks on the rise according to reportsGETTY
German police have been attacked by migrants in some areas of Germany reports suggest
Police have been attacked by migrants, reports sayGETTY
Officers have been afraid to enter some areas, according to reports
In Berlin or in the north of Duisburg, areas exist where police “hardly dare to stop a car”.
Rainer Wendt, President of the German Police Union, said: “Because they know that they’ll be surrounded by 40 or 50 men.”
Mr Wendt said attacks amount to a “deliberate challenge to the authority of the state – attacks in which the perpetrators are expressing their contempt for our society.”
German media has been monitoring the situation.
Recently, N24 Television described a popular shopping and residential area, Duisburg-Marxloh, where police have become “powerless”.
The channel reported: “The descent of the district is nightmarish. Now clans claim the streets for themselves.”
The pockets of lawlessness have deeply upset communities with some witnesses to the violence claiming the problems are being exacerbated by the German government, which has relocated hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers and refugees into these areas.
Duisburg has been one of the areas described as a “no-go one” by German media
The report for the NRW State Parliament described the situation in Duisburg’s Laar district, claiming the area is run by two Lebanese families.
It states: “The streets are actually regarded as a separate territory. Outsiders are physically assaulted, robbed and harassed. Experience shows that the Lebanese clans “can mobilize several hundred people in a very short period of time by means of a telephone call.”
Peter Biesenbach of the opposition Christian Democrats (CDU) said: “If this is not a no-go area, then I do not know what is.”
Recently, German paper Bild wrote “Ghetto Report Germany” – a piece describing “burgeoning ghettos, parallel societies and no-go areas” in Germany.
The police report leaked to Der Spiegel claimed in Duisburg, spiralling levels of violent crime perpetrated by migrants from the Middle East and the Balkans have turned parts of the city into de facto “no-go zones
The report was produced by NRW police headquarters and warns the government is losing control over problem neighborhoods
According to Der Spiegel: “There are districts where immigrant gangs are taking over entire streets for themselves. Native residents and business people are being intimidated and silenced. People taking trams during the evening and nighttime describe their experiences as ‘living nightmares.”
Police officers are allegedly subjected to high levels of aggression.
In Duisburg there are currently an estimated 60,000 Turkish Muslim residents, making it one of the most Islamized cities in Germany, as well as thousands of Bulgarians and Romanians .
This summer, the neighborhood descended even deeper into a spiral of violence
N24
Duisburg’s Marxloh district, one of the most problematic in Germany, has been described as “a memorial to Germany’s failed integration policy.”
More than half of the district’s 20,000 inhabitants are migrants coming from 90 different countries.
The areas in question are also rocked by poverty with many inhabitants being on welfare. In Marxloh, this figure is 50 per cent.
N24 said about the area: “Once Duisburg-Marxloh was a popular shopping and residential area. Now clans claim the streets for themselves. The police are powerless. The descent of the district is nightmarish.
“Police will enter some parts of Marxloh only with reinforcements. Several patrol cars are needed to respond even to commonplace rear-end collisions. Too often, they are surrounded by an aggressive mob, spat upon and threatened.
“Last year, police were deployed to Marxloh more than 600 times with four or more patrol cars.
“This summer, the neighborhood descended even deeper into a spiral of violence. Family clans claim streets for themselves. Citizens hardly dare to go outside at night. In the smallest matter, violence is kindled.”
‘Merkel must go!’ Protest in Dresden as Merkel arrives to celebrate German Unity Day
Mon, October 3, 2016
Protesters jeered at German Chancellor Angela Merkel as she attended celebrations in Dresden to mark 26 years since Germany’s reunification called German Unity Day.
Osnabrück Police Commissioner Bernhard Witthaut told Der Westen: “Every police commissioner and interior minister will deny it. But of course we know where we can go with the police car and where, even initially, only with the personnel carrier.
“The reason is that our colleagues can no longer feel safe there in twos, and have to fear becoming the victim of a crime themselves. We know that these areas exist. Even worse: in these areas, crimes no longer result in charges.
“They are left to themselves. Only in the worst cases do we in the police learn anything about it. The power of the state is completely out of the picture.”
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The areas named in German media are Berlin-Neukölln, Bremerhaven-Lehe/Bremen-Huchting, Cologne-Chorweiler, Dortmund-Nordstadt, Duisburg-Marxloh, Essen-Altenessen, Hamburg-Eidelstedt, Kaiserslautern-Asternweg, Mannheim-Neckarstadt West and Pforzheim-Oststadt.
According to the Rheinische Post, NRW problem areas include: Aachen, Bielefeld, Bochum, Bonn, Bottrop, Dorsten, Duisburg, Düsseldorf, Essen, Euskirchen, Gelsenkirchen-Süd, Gladbeck, Hagen, Hamm, Heinsberg, Herne, Iserlohn, Kleve, Cologne, Lippe,
Lüdenscheid, Marl, Mettmann, Minden, Mönchengladbach, Münster, Neuss, Oberhausen, Recklinghausen, Remscheid, Rhein-Erft-Kreis, Rhein-Sieg-Kreis, Solingen, Unna, Witten and Wuppertal.
If Greg has actually read this far, and he probably hasn’t because he’s swearing at the moon, I hope he thinks and reads and researches.
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okay you just said dozens of thousands of hundreds….let’s say that’s 24 times 100,000.
Okay perhaps you hate me, but if you think Australia would be better with another 2 million Muslims than me, than nobody I know would agree with you. What percentage of Muslims are okay with Sharia. Or with terrorism. If you want to argue that 99% of Muslims are peaceful, and only 1 % are terrorist then you’ve just let in 20,000 terrorists. Great work meathead. lol
If you want to argue that only a tenth of a percent are terrorists than you’ve still let in 2000 radical Islamic terrorists who will gladly rape your daughter, burn your wife, and throw you off a high building.
Great work Greg!!
Hey, instead of spending your time spouting nonsense, go and have a look at what Muslims are doing in Europe. Or ask your local ASIO friend how many personnel are trying to prevent Islamic terrorism in Australia. Do you have any idea? No you don’t.
When you do, then come back and have an intelligent conversation.
And F you, doesn’t count.
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No Q, letting in masses of un-screened people to your country is insane – who cares what their religion is? Not me in particular…you might, but I certainly do not. In fact, I’d rather have a dozen thousand of hundreds of Muslims than even one Agnostic Q
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Mad Muslims on the March Again -while Waleed whistles
The rally turned ugly as night fell and thousands of hardliners clashed with police, setting vehicles ablaze and hurling bottles and rocks at officers, injuring several. Police responded with tear gas, water cannon and truncheons but it took hours to quell the violence, which later spilt over into a poor neighbourhood in Jakarta’s north.
An elderly man died but his cause of death was not yet known, Jakarta police spokesman Awi Setiyono told AFP.
In a brief statement just after midnight, President Joko Widodo — flanked by senior officials including Indonesia’s military chief, security minister and national police chief — regretted the peaceful march descending into violence.
Muslim protesters chant slogans near burning police trucks during a clash outside the presidential palace in Jakarta, Indonesia. Picture: Dita Alangkara.
Muslim protesters chant slogans near burning police trucks during a clash outside the presidential palace in Jakarta, Indonesia. Picture: Dita Alangkara.Source:AP
“People should have been dispersed but it ended up in chaos,” he told reporters at the palace.
“I ask the protesters to go home, and let law enforcement do their job in a fair way.”
The protest was triggered by accusations that Purnama, better known by his nickname Ahok, insulted Islam by criticising opponents who used Koranic references to attack him ahead of an election in February.
Purnama apologised for the remarks, but his opponents have built a groundswell of support calling for his arrest and incarceration under Indonesia’s tough blasphemy laws.
Hardliners have called for his death and promised yesterday’s turnout in Jakarta would eclipse a similar rally last month that drew 10,000 chanting demonstrators to the streets.
Protesters attend to an injured friend outside the presidential palace after clashes that marred an otherwise peaceful rally against governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama. Picture: Adek Berry.
Protesters attend to an injured friend outside the presidential palace after clashes that marred an otherwise peaceful rally against governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama. Picture: Adek Berry.Source:AFP
Anger spread beyond the capital, with solidarity marches also held across Java and in cities as far away as Makassar in Indonesia’s east.
Authorities took no chances in the lead up to the much-hyped Jakarta rally, deploying 18,000 officers and extra soldiers across the capital amid fears that radical elements could infiltrate the march.
The demonstration appeared to be dying down by dusk, but the situation turned hostile by nightfall as hardliners and riot police engaged in skirmishes.
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Letting in masses of Muslims to your country is insane.
“Data from the German statistics agency, Destatis, shows that 138,000 Germans left Germany in 2015. More are expected to emigrate in 2016. In a story on brain drain titled, “German talent is leaving the country in droves,” Die Welt reported that more than 1.5 million Germans, many of them highly educated, left Germany during the past decade.
The statistics do not give a reason why Germans are emigrating, but anecdotal evidence indicates that many are waking up to the true cost — financial, social and cultural — of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to allow more than one million mostly Muslim migrants to enter the country in 2015. At least 300,000 more migrants are expected to arrive in Germany in 2016, according to Frank-Jürgen Weise, the head of the country’s migration office, BAMF.
Mass migration has — among many other problems — contributed to a growing sense of insecurity in Germany, which is facing a spike in migrant crime, including an epidemic of rapes and sexual assaults. Mass migration is also accelerating the Islamization of Germany. Many Germans appear to be losing hope about the future direction of their country.”
Waleed, bones, Wazza and Explorer should try living in a Muslim country. Wouldn’t last.
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I know nobody on this site cares. Its not as troubling for the people here as rich white lesbians having to walk to the next block to buy a wedding cake…..but for what it’s worth.
At least 40 people have been killed in a brutal massacre of a Christian community in Nigeria.
Gunmen believed to be Fulani tribesmen raided Godogodo in Kaduna State, Nigeria – a predominantly Christian settlement – on October 15. The incident followed previous killings in the village last month. Besides those killed and wounded, hundreds have been displaced with housing, places of worship and agriculture destroyed.
Village residents said the massacre began at 5pm, shortly after journalists had left after reporting the machete attack that killed eight on September 24-26, Morning Star News reports.
One witness, Peter Atangi, watched his four children being killed by the herdsmen. He spoke to World Watch Monitor:
“The herdsmen came around 9pm on Saturday [15 October]. They invaded our homes after they attacked a military checkpoint. They were armed with sophisticated guns, machetes, knives and sticks. As soon as they came, they started shooting indiscriminately and we started running in different directions,” he said.
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“They shot and killed my four children. As we ran for our dear lives, they also set our homes on fire. Many of us have been rendered homeless.”
Pastor Isaac Balason of Nasara Baptist Church, Godogodo, spoke to Morning Star News on the phone during the attack. “It is now 8:30 p.m., and the attack is ongoing,” he said. “We’re not sure we’ll survive this time. Please be in prayers with us.”
Solomon Musa, attorney and president of the Southern Kaduna People’s Union, said at a press conference on Monday that local residents had identified at least 40 victims.
He said: “Godogodo communities once again came under very fierce, terrifying, brutal, savage and barbarous attack by Fulani herdsmen without provocation of any nature from Saturday 15th October, 2016, to Sunday afternoon,” he said. “So far, the locals have been able to identify not less than 40 corpses, aside from the several other corpses burnt beyond recognition.”
According to Musa nearly all the houses in the village were burned. “The savagery and barbarity of the attack is beyond belief,” he said. “Yet, governments at the federal and state levels appear quiet and noncommittal. We have been abandoned, deserted and neglected.”
Rev Thomas Akut of the Evangelical Church Winning All Good News Church in Godogodo said the attack had displaced all 245 members of his church. “Most of the villages around Godogodo have been destroyed and thousands of Christians displaced, ” he said, noting that he considered the attacks part of an Islamic war against Christians.
“This is a jihad,” he said. “It is an Islamic holy war against Christians in the southern part of Kaduna state.”
World Watch monitor reports that more than 300 people – the majority of them Christians – have been killed in attacks by Fulani herdsmen in the last five months, and more than 5,000 people have been displaced.
Another Nigerian pastor, Rev Augustine Akpen Lev, told the site: “This is another jihad like the one waged by Boko Haram in the north-east of the country. The attackers carry sophisticated weapons, sometimes they even used chemical weapons on our communities. They just come, often overnight when people are sleeping. They attack defenseless people and go away. They clearly have an agenda: to wipe out the Christian presence and take over the land.”
Yeah, I know. Youll argue its just a land dispute and nothing to do with Islam.
Muslims can kill and rape and behead anywhere in the world, and the commentators will defend Islam and hurry off to find a Christian somewhere to bash.
JUst sad.
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On second thoughts, I’ll self-moderate.
Bones I see you have a lot of passion there and have really thought through the issues.
I’ll think about what you have said.
Have a splendid day! 😄
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Mr Groupsects,
You’ve gotta be the laziest moderator in the history of the internet! Lol
Come on, ban Bones and I!!!! Lol
I even feel like taking action!
I was a nice gentle guy until I met Bones…..
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“Do you want a list of Muslim terrorism in many countries just for September by they way?”
“That would make you orgasm, wouldn’t it?”
Lol . That was funny ! I’ll pay that.
But it shows you deflect from facts.
Man, you have a really twisted interest in Ian Roberts muscles and my orgasms. Lol
Maybe you can take a cold shower.
“As usual Q tries to run away from his lies”
Run away! Run away!
“I mean who brings Ian Roberts up any more???”
I do. Because the time you kept raving on about how gay Roberts was so manly and could beat me up and you kept saying it was so funny.
Your sexual delight in Roberts bearing up a straight guy is hilarious! And …. revealing!
“Just some pathetic moron ”
Oh, now you’ve hurt me. And you’re usually so nice…. lol
“who has issues with his own sexuality”
No. my sexuality is just fine. I’m actually even too sexy for my car.
“and gay people.”
I like gay people. If I come back as a woman I plan on being a lesbian.
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“Do you want a list of Muslim terrorism in many countries just for September by they way?”
That would make you orgasm, wouldn’t it?
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As usual Q tries to run away from his lies…..but they just show they sort of human being he is.
A particular sad individual who still fantasises about Ian Roberts….
I mean who brings Ian Roberts up any more???
Just some pathetic moron who has issues with his own sexuality and gay people.
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“Q’s been caught out lying yet again…”
No, not at all. You’re delusional lol
“So now he’s on a hunt over Clinton”s emails….”
Hunt?? Lol
Strange comment. Just sayin she sure deleted lots of emails, and she and Obama lied about it to the public.
“Is his hatred of Obama because of his skin colour, he’s a closet Muslim or Obama allowed gay marriage?”
I don’t hate Obama at all. I think he’s cool and I like his family.
I have lots of friends of many different skin colors. Don’t even know many white people. But if they’ve all become blaspheming, hateful evil speaking people like you it’s probably a good thing.
A closet Muslim?
No. he was baptized ina church as a adult and has always said he’s a Christian.
He acts much more like a Christian than you.
He allowed gay marriage?
I don’t hate him for that at all. I don’t hate anyone who allows or supports gay marriage.
Lots of people don’t support it. Some don’t know. Heck, some gay people either don’t know if they support it, don’t support it, or want more time to think about it.
Do you want a list of Muslim terrorism in many countries just for September by they way?
Bones,
You need medication or just a slap! Lol
Summer down.
Man, anyone would think someone stole those IanRoberts center folds you cherish.
Or all thre
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Q’s been caught out lying yet again…
So now he’s on a hunt over Clinton”s emails….
Is his hatred of Obama because of his skin colour, he’s a closet Muslim or Obama allowed gay marriage?
Or all three.
The right wing scramble to blame Obama for the consequences of their own hawkish policies is quite frankly f#cking retarded and incredibly dishonest.
But hey even they can see what a f#ck up the war was and have tried to distance themselves.
Heck, did anyone notice how George W Bush Jr was invisible during the Republican nominations.
The guys an embarrassment.
The facts of Islamic terrorism is that it has increased since the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and unleashed a wave of terror throughout Muslim countries.
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Bones, you’re actually missing a lot of facts there. Go study up again, and come back later.
I’ll be away, but will answer this nonsense. I’ll give you a hint. Look over statements made by Bunes on the subject and what he thought was best.
Also, regarding Obama, and his Secretary of State have just been proven to be complete liars.
This man publicly stated that he didn’t know about Hillary’s private mail. Lo and behold, just like Hillary deleted thousands of emails and was shown to be a liar by the FBI, so so you man Obama has too.
He even sent mails to that private server using a fake name.
But, I’ll get back to you.
ANd once again you have ignored reams of facts about Islamic terrorism.
One again, when you can’t refute the obvious, you pick on one and do an uneducated, ignorant amateur cut and paste hack. Did you actually graduate high school?
Do some more homework Bonehead.
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“But once they did, Obama caused the current mess by pulling out too early. ”
Complete bs as usual from the Muslim hater
“In 2008 the American and Iraqi governments signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. It included a specific date, 30 June 2009, by which American forces should withdraw from Iraqi cities, and a complete withdrawal date from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011.[13] On 14 December 2008 then-President George W. Bush signed the security agreement with Iraq. In his fourth and final trip to Iraq, President Bush appeared in a televised news conference with Iraq’s prime minister Nouri al-Maliki to celebrate the agreement and applauded security gains in Iraq saying that just two years ago “such an agreement seemed impossible”.”
It was Bush’s timetable for the troops to pull out and the Iraqi government wanted the US out.
This is wholly and solely Bush’s f*ck up….
Obama: Pulling All U.S. Troops Out of Iraq Was Not ‘My Decision’
“Mr. President, do you have any second thoughts about pulling all ground troops out of Iraq?” the reporter asked. “And does it give you pause as the U.S.–is it doing the same thing in Afghanistan?”
“What I just find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps on coming up, as if this was my decision,” Obama said, indicating he does not believe it was his decision as commander in chief of U.S. troops in a congressionally authorized action in Iraq to decide whether the troops should stay or leave.
“Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government,” Obama said. “In order for us to maintain troops in Iraq, we needed the invitation of the Iraqi government and we needed assurances that our personnel would be immune from prosecution if, for example, they were protecting themselves and ended up getting in a firefight with Iraqis, that they wouldn’t be hauled before an Iraqi judicial system.
“And the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances,” Obama said. “And on that basis, we left. We had offered to leave additional troops. So when you hear people say, do you regret, Mr. President, not leaving more troops, that presupposes that I would have overridden this sovereign government that we had turned the keys back over to and said, you know what, you’re democratic, you’re sovereign, except if I decide that it’s good for you to keep 10,000 or 15,000 or 25,000 Marines in your country, you don’t have a choice, which would have kind of run contrary to the entire argument we were making about turning over the country back to Iraqis, an argument not just made by me, but made by the previous administration.
“So let’s just be clear: The reason that we did not have a follow-on force in Iraq was because the Iraqis were–a majority of Iraqis did not want U.S. troops there, and politically they could not pass the kind of laws that would be required to protect our troops in Iraq,” said Obama.
Obama went on to say that he does not believe it would not have made any difference if he had decided to keep troops in Iraq.
“The only difference would be we’d have a bunch of troops on the ground that would be vulnerable,” said Obama. “And however many troops we had, we would have to now be reinforcing, I’d have to be protecting them, and we’d have a much bigger job. And probably, we would end up having to go up again in terms of the number of grounds troops to make sure that those forces were not vulnerable.
“So that entire analysis is bogus and is wrong,” said Obama. “But it gets frequently peddled around here by folks who oftentimes are trying to defend previous policies that they themselves made.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-pulling-all-us-troops-out-iraq-was-not-my-decision
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Ok…you’ve got my attention, keep talking
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PS Wazza, I really disagree with you, but I love the way you put your own thoughts down.
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“‘Fix your church/sect/cult, then I’ve got nothing to write here.’
Then you will be busy until you die. You think you won’t be able to find a pastor somewhere in the world who steals money, bonks his secretary, has a son who hates him, or says something controversial?
And that’s why gives you thrills?
I don’t think the world would end if there were gay marriage tomorrow.
The world wouldn’t end if there were bisexual three way marriage.
The world wouldn’t end if channel seven showed 24 hours of rated xxx porn.
The world would still continue, and the church would still continue. And there will still be pastors who sin.
Maybe the real problem here is that lots of you became Christians young and were looking for utopia.
Groupsects, there will never be a time when all church.sects,cults are totally fixed.
For what it’s worth, you are the most libertarian hands-off webmaster on the planet probably.
It’s your right to list 10 articles a day about the sins of the churches.
You’re no hypocrite at all. Some of us just think its hypocritical of commenters to salivate and enjoy hundreds of anti-christian articles and then beg for mercy and feel-good Muslim articles when someone points out the facts of the REAL fear some people have.
Ask the good people of New Jersey
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Charlie’s comments were thought-provoking.
People may have noticed I have been fairly disengaged from this site. For the past 18 months or so it’s mainly been in ‘maintenance mode.’
It started out as a challenge to ‘exploitative Christianity’ which was breaking a Christian cultural taboo at the time of not questioning/judging church leaders.
Now, there are many sites doing the same thing. Often, I find I’m just repeating what’s elsewhere.
I mainly keep this site going for the community of people who enjoy giving each other the shits.
I am interested in broader issues which don’t fit the narrow confines of this site, especially youth suicide and the atrocities of radicalised Islam.
If there were 5 of me, there would be 5 websites.
But there’s only 1 of me with a full-time job and a waning interest in an incompetent and amoral church.
BTW, again, I don’t support gay marriage, but I don’t oppose it either, as it’s simply a passing fad llike yo-yo’s or marbles which nobody will bother with in 50 years from now.
New Zealand has gay marriage and it’s still functioning, folks. (Don’t tell Lyle ‘there will be consequences’ Shelton).
But as for what I post here, I’ll say the same thing I’ve said to critics from day 1.
‘Fix your church/sect/cult, then I’ve got nothing to write here.’
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Wazza, i thought that was a really good post.
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I am outraged by Obama killing people with drones, it ought to be stopped now. This program is actually more dangerous to Western society than any external terrorist threat, because it violates all our traditions – Habeus Corpus, the rule of law etc. Obama has actually sought out at least one Muslim US citizen for his death ray, and it would only be a matter of time before he seeks them out within the US itself. Hillary or Trump will continue this program.
Do I think habitual liar, email destroying Hillary will make a better president? Well yes, but only because almost anyone would make a better president.
Trump is totally unqualified for the job. In business it is helpful if you can deceive yourself, it helps you to deceive others and get an advantage. In business you can be a narcissist and never admit you were wrong, in fact its expected. In business if you fail you can just start again and all the people that relied on you, creditors and employees are just considered collateral damage. As leader of the free world these very same qualities that made him successful will be disastrous.
The politifact fact check file says that only 15% of Trumps statements are true or mostly true. The overwhelming majority of what he says is a lie. Do you care about that? Why follow a liar? His birther nonsense was proved wrong 4 years ago, but only this week has he admitted it. Would you buy a used car from someone who is spouting crap for four years after it was proved wrong beyond any doubt? No? Then why support them to be the leader of the free world?
Trump drinks his own Kool-aid that’s the worrying thing.
So someone did a bad thing and said the word “Allah” and asked people if they were Muslim. Send in the drones, there’s gotta be drones, don’t worry they’re here. Don’t use the words Allah or Muslim in your posts anymore or you might get a tap at the window from a drone.
do you have any idea how many terrorist plots were stopped because of Afghanistan?
Look it up.
I tried to google this , maybe 40 or 50 says the Heritage foundation. We killed up to a million Iraqis to prevent this horrible potential terrorism, a high price but we are willing for them to pay it. Terrorist attacks are now up 400% world wide but most of the victims are Muslim so we can disregard that.
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Wazza,
I opposed attacking Iraq. But once they did, Obama caused the current mess by pulling out too early. You listed a few countries. I posted a statistic about FIFTY!!!!
Re Israel, Muslim women have more rights and protection in Israel than majority Muslim nations.
If you don’t know that basic fact then the discussion is pointless.
Tell me where Muslims are stopped from evangelizing in Christian countries and Ill show you the countries where Muslims persecute Christians . There is absolutely no comparison.
You want to live in Afghanistan , Iran etc as opposed to Israel!
Seriously, you’re nuts.
I was in favor or attacking al Quada camps in Afghanistan. As was Hillary.
And as we speak your man Barack Hussein Obama is killing Muslims with Drones.
You don’t know that?
Not Trump, not me – Nobel peace prize winning Hussein Obama.
Why?
Why Wazza? Why is Obama killing Musljms with drones and why aren’t you, Bones and groupsects outraged? Hundreds of derogatory articles about Christian churches – how many about Obama killing Muslims with drones???
Trump is not my fuhrer.
If you think the habitual liar,extremely careless, coughing, collaBut why just focus on Christians. Persecution of Muslims has been consistent and almost constant throughout the last century yearspsing, email destroying Hillary would Make a better president???then go ahead and keep drinking the koolaid
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Wazza, you can read in a post referring to Islam that 40 out of the top 50 countries where Christians are persecuted are Muslim and talk about North Korea???
And then say that a coalition of nations attacking the Taliban in Aghanistan after 9/11 was persectuion of Muslims?
Are you a radical Muslim???
Man, where do I start?
First, do you have any idea how many terrorist plots were stopped because of Afghanistan?
Look it up. Had nothing to do with attacking innocent Muslims. ON the contrary, if western countries took over Afghanistan what would happen? Boys wouldn’t be raped and girls would get an education.
Second, you want me to talk about North Korea? sure – let me go and I’ll write a hundred posts about them. I’d rather posts about North Korea, and the pathetic things they are doing, Bring it on!!! But you won’t get that here. I could tell you story after story of persecuation of Christians. But Groupsects and Bones wouldn’t be interested. They’d rather find out the value of Brian Houston’s latest Tshirt.
Or go searching for a Pastor of a church of 15 somewhere in Tennessee that said something politically correct.
I’m all for regime change in North Korea.
But that’s an interesting point.
You and Bones and company are now nodding your heads up and down at anyone preaching about how great Islam is.
I can just imagine what you were like in the early 80’s. When the idiot liberal looney professors were saying how great communism was!!!! Yeah, i was there. Marx was great. North Korea as a paragon of virtue. Capitalism was the real enemy and if we could all just share like them…..
Yep, you were probaby believing all that dribble and talking excitedly on the way to the free food from the Hari Krishna’s. Me? I thought they were mad.
And I was proven right when the wall came down. Now the looney left-wing professors have stopped talking about it. Even they and most people realize it didn7t work and know the horrors of the North Korean regime.
So now, they’ve moved onto defending Islam……
Mad. Really. Just mad.
So, bring North Korea on.
But we won’t hear about north korea until Group Sects finds that one of the Christians in a re-ecucation camp stole something. Then he’ll make a post about it, ignoring the thousands who are persecuted.
But I’d gladly talk about North Korea – no probs. And the link between them and Islamic states.
Ready when you are Hippy!
OH.. this just in….
AT least eight people have been taken to hospital with injuries after a stabbing attack at a Minnesota shopping mall which ended with the suspected attacker dead inside the mall.
St. Cloud Police Chief Blair Anderson said in a midnight news conference that the armed suspect entered Crossroads Centre shopping mall in the city of St Cloud around 8pm (local time) and “made some references to Allah, and we have confirmed that he asked at least one person if they were Muslim before he assaulted them. “We do know there were approximately eight people transported to the St. Cloud Hospital with non life-threatening injuries.”
Yeah i know. The Boneheaded Bundaberg anti-semite will say he wasn’t a hippie and that other hypocrite will start beggin for a feel good Muslim story to be sandwiched inbetween a hundred anti-Christian posts.
I’ve found the perfect definition of gross hypocricy. It’s right here.
Okay, have to go and help Trump win. I stayed away for a week or two. The stakes are too high.
So I’ll come back and check on Bone’s swearing rants in a week.
Bye.
btw, Trump will win. Hillary will probably quit before election day.
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I read it Q, number 1 is North Korea. I’m searching for your anti-Korean rants but I can’t find them. Iraq at number 2 is a mess because the US attacked it and terrorists are attracted to it like flies to a rotting animal – your Fuhrer Trump says so himself. Same goes for Syria and Afghanistan.
But why just focus on Christians. Persecution of Muslims has been consistent and almost constant throughout the last century years – eg. creation of Israel, the Bosnian genocide, Iraq Wars 1 & 2, Afghan wars by Britain, Russia, US/UK/Australia.
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The original question addressed was
“Islam what are we afraid of?”
After years of attacking Churches and Christians from every denomination , Groupsects is now defending Islam. After delighting in sarcastic attacks, diatribes, insults, calls for longer prison sentences for pastors and scathing remarks about Christians who aren’t cool, too cool, trying to be cool, Groupsects and the loser commentators are now obsessed with spreading the word about how peaceful and normal Muslims are.
And any comments showing facts and statistics of real Islamic terrorism are met with crying and blubbering from ignorant wannabe Islamic advocates who respond with “They’re not real Muslims”, “How about some positive , feel-good Muslim stories” and finally an attempt to divert comments about Islamic terrorism to youth unemployment, housing prices and the nasty neo-liberals.
See, here it’s okay to sneer, attack, and laugh at Christians for years on end. But you can’t talk about self-proclaimed Muslims yelling Aalahu Akbar as they murder and rape because … that’s just not nice.
Do that and you all suddenly become world-changers who think we should advocate for youth issues, find some video of nice Muslims saying how nice they are, and rejoice about men becoming women and the age of consent for anal sex being lowered. Yes, these are the priorities.,
Still reading? Probably not. Searching the Internet for more negative Christian stories and nice Muslim stories? Bones still weeping with delight over multi-faith funerals? Hasn’t been so moved since his wet dream about semi-naked homosexual football players beating up a straight guy?
So if you’re still reading – here’s one for you.
“Iraq ranks second and Syria is fifth on Open Doors’ 2016 World Watch List, a list of 50 countries where Christians come under the most pressure. Almost 40 of the 50 countries are majority Muslim or have Islamist non-state actors (e.g. militias) at work.”
Read that again. And think about it.
And this time think about it for yourself. That’s right Bones, don’t just do a search for some left-leaning website to tell you what you should think about it.
But Christians being persecuted? Nobody here cares. Attacking Churches and Christians is what atttracts the bullies who want to sink their boot in too.
Remember
Iraq ranks second and Syria is fifth on Open Doors’ 2016 World Watch List, a list of 50 countries where Christians come under the most pressure. Almost 40 of the 50 countries are majority Muslim or have Islamist non-state actors (e.g. militias) at work.
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@Bones
The man claimed to be a Muslim and yelled Allahu Akbar while he murdered two people. He also said to people in the hostel, that he was going to massacre them all, but they didn’t believe him.
I don’t believe he had any connection with Isis. Isis could have a menbership of zero, and there will still be a problem with Muslims murdering people (especially with knives” in many different countries around the world. We’ve had it since the 72 Olympics. Whether in Munich, Indonesia, London, New York, Mindanao, Bali, Brussels, Paris, Somalia, Bangladesh, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, or right back going to the time of raids ordered by Mohammed himself, they will always justify their actions somehow. And they will be defended by silly white liberals who don’t know history and don’t live around Muslims.
There is nothing wrong with the family of the slain woman to have an inter-faith funeral. That’s their wish and should be respected. If my loved ones were murdered by a Muslim yelling Allahu Akbar I probably wouldn’t be having an interfaith funeral. And most Muslims don’t have inter-faith funerals.
You haven’t made any point at all. But, there is one great thing you said.
You want people to have the guts to source their quotes. In your case, I strongly recommend that.
Only for others.
For me, I know where you quotes come from. Mostly liberallly-biased websites, once it was a crazy conspiracy site, and yes – the most famous one of all. That complete lie from the vilest anti-semitic website on the planet. One that most people with at least an elementary school level of education would recognize, but which you and some fundamentalist anti-Jewish Muslims took to be truth.
So please, by all means, quote your sources – especially since you can’t really articulate your own arguments and just copy and paste.
Oh, and If for your funeral you want a mutli-faith deal, remember to write down who is a real Muslim or not – because you seem to think you know but nobody else does.
I know you’re an angry young man – but you should direct your fury and frustrations different things. Like closing down anti-semitic websites instead of quoting from them.
And helping churches grow instead of attacking them.
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“We have to wake up, we are all being screwed by the neo-liberal society – the youth can’t afford to buy a house, they are being worked for 50+ hours a week or they are being forced into unpaid internships. Youth suicide is at an all time high. But are we discussing this ?”
You remind me of the long haired hippy on the Young Ones. Okay, tell Groupsects to stop spending all his time running articles about Brian Houston or Kong Hee, or some redneck Pastor of a ten member church in Alabama who done somebody wrong. How is THAT helping youth suicide or the current price of real estate and whether it’s affordable by young people.
That fact that the age of consent for anal sex has been lowered in Queensland will save us from this “neo-liberal society” which is screwing you? The fact that now some guy can screw a 16yr old is better news for you? Or that homosexuals threatened violence forcing a hotel to cancel bookings for Catholics and Anglicans who wanted to peacefully discuss preserving marriage as it is now?
“But we are discussing this?”
Yeah, strange isn’t it. You are angry about that, but you wouldn’t bat an eyelid if Groupsects ran ten consecutive articles about Brian Houston. Basically, people calling themselves Muslims could murder 10,000 people tomorrow in 10 countries, and it wouldn’t be mentioned here. If Brian Houston got mad and called somebody a bloody idiot, it would make the news here. And commenters here would be circling like sharks.
Even though most of his church is supporting him, and the original guy is sorry he went to the media, people here won’t be happy until a Chinese pastor in Singapore is in jail. That’s what you people love discussing. Nobody here is so busy worrying about youth and house prices that they don’t have time to read all about any Christian sin committed in the world. Or an nasty anti-Trump article.
Go solve youth suicide, unemployment, and rising house prices if you want. Spend so much time on it that you don’t have time to read Groupsects Christian gossip column. But don’t come out with this hypocricy where you can spend years attacking Hillsong, C3, Kong Hee, and any random Christian group from anywhere in the world, but as soon as someone points out simple historical facts about Islamic terrorism then you start crying and suddenly become worried about youth????
Give me a break.
This website is mostly about pointing out bad news about Christians, promoting homosexual marriage, and defending Muslims.
I get that some people here have been hurt in churches. But they haven’t been beheaded yet. They haven’t had their friends raped in the streets by people yelling allahu Akbar. And they weren’t near trains that were blown up by people raving about the latest Hillsong conference of singing china wine.
If you want for every two bit whinge article here about some Christian somwhere in the world, I could list hundreds of people EVERY DAY who are persecuted by Muslims. Okay – people who CALL themselves Muslism, dress like Muslims, pray like Muslims, read the Koran, go to mosques but who according to some here really aren’t Muslims. Let’s call them Claytons Muslims??
Fake-Muslim Muslim Terrorists?
“No we have endless discussions about a mentailly ill person with a knife who may have been ‘inspired’ by ISIS, ”
I don’t think there was an endless discussion about the guy with the knife. If you want I will list again the bomblings and mruder and mayhen in the US, UK, Belgium, Bali, Indonesia, India, Somalia, Nigeria, Bangladesh, etc etc and never mention the backpacker murderer if you like.
Unless you think we should not call any terrorist attack by anyone claiming to be Muslim “islamic terrorism” and just refer to it as a random attack by a mentally ill person?
Tell that to Asio and the CIA and police trying to prevent another attack.
Do you know anyone involved in anti-terrorist security? do you think they never use the world Muslim, Islam, or mosque at work? are you insane?
And yet, day after day, at Groupsects people will gladly use the word Christian whether Catholic, Protestant or Snakehandler – if they can find that they did something wrong.
“asylum seeker boats who may have terrorists in them.”
They may have. Once again, go talk to people in law enforcement. You really don’t think anyone thinks there is no possibility of terrorists being in boats arriving in Europe?
Really?
You talk about half a brain. I suggest you use your full brain and read the news. Go look up a website that is trying to help persecuted Christians in the world.
It might be an eye-opener. While you are trying to be clever here on a website where anti-christians can gloat over some naughty pastor, there are Christians right now without food, freedom, hope, and who are being systematically beaten and raped.
And oh no – they may no be able to get a deposit on a house!!! Horrible isn’t it.
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Anyone with half a brain knows that Islam has hateful and problematic scriptures and that we should be very afraid of them.
However if you have a full brain you start to put these things in their proper context. Ie. that all major religious traditions, especially the Abrahamic religions have problematic scriptures which can be used to justify violence, hate and even genocide. It is a matter of how these scriptures and traditions are interpreted by the societies that live them – every religion is a lived religion not just a set of laws and directions on paper.
Then the full-brained will ask themselves whether our fears are being inflamed in order to persuade us to support our leadership. Each generation has had to have a fearsome and shadowy enemy to motivate them and pull them into line. First it was the Jews, then the Commies and now the Muslims.
We have to wake up, we are all being screwed by the neo-liberal society – the youth can’t afford to buy a house, they are being worked for 50+ hours a week or they are being forced into unpaid internships. Youth suicide is at an all time high. But are we discussing this ? No we have endless discussions about a mentailly ill person with a knife who may have been ‘inspired’ by ISIS, or asylum seeker boats who may have terrorists in them. It is much easier to blame the outsider than to face the real enemy – power-blocs within our own societies and the creeping selfishness which is splitting it apart.
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Welcome to the Mosque | Trailer from Grace Productions on Vimeo.
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Watched a documentary on the East London Mosque the other night on ABC – they basically admitted on public TV that they were actually guilty of being just like you and fucking me you bigoted idiots.
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Sadly for the Muslim haters, the death of the young girl at Home Hill had nothing to do with Islam.
The mother even had a reading from the Koran at her funeral.
After talking about the misrepresentation of Mia’s death in the media as an act of terrorism on the part of an Islamic fundamentalist, the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar. I’m hoping this will be read by a friend of Mia’s, who is the son of the last of my friends to see Mia in Istanbul. His parentage is Turkish and Scottish. All good. We’ve also asked my friend Mark Glanville, an opera singer of Jewish descent, to deliver a Jewish text or song.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/a-journey-in-grief-the-challenges-of-creating-a-multi-faith-funeral-for-my-daughter-mia-a7215771.html
If people areally going to post articles at least have the guts to source them.
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What have we got to be afraid of….?.
Not ‘radical’ Islam …. just normal Islam.
ISIL are just normal Muslims following the teachings and behaviours of Muhammed who (as history records) beheaded his own enemies and took women and children as slaves.
The Battle of the Trench
“Following the retreat of the Confederate army, the Banu Qurayza neighbourhoods were besieged by the Muslims, in revenge for their treachery. After a 25-day siege of their neighbourhood the Banu Qurayza unconditionally surrendered. When the Banu Qurayza tribe surrendered, the Muslim army seized their stronghold and their possessions.[32] On the request of the Banu Aus, who were allied to the Qurayza, Muhammad chose one of them, Sa’ad ibn Mu’adh, as an arbitrator to pronounce judgment upon them. Sa’ad, who would later die of his wounds from the battle, decreed the sentence according to the Torah, in which the men shall be killed and women and children enslaved. Deuteronomy 20:10–14 says:
When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.[33]
Muhammad approved of this decision, and the next day the sentence was carried out.[32]
The men – numbering between 400 and 900[34] – were bound and placed under the custody of Muhammad ibn Maslamah, while the women and children were placed under Abdullah ibn Salam, a former rabbi who had converted to Islam.[12][35]
Ibn Ishaq describes the killing of the Banu Qurayza men as follows:
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Then they surrendered, and the Apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the Apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the Apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, ‘Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!’ This went on until the Apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the Apostle he said, ‘By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken.’ Then he went to the men and said, ‘God’s command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel.’ Then he sat down and his head was struck off.[34][36][37]
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A number of individuals were spared when various Muslims intervened on their behalf.[38]Several accounts note Muhammad’s companions as executioners, Umar and Al-Zubayr in particular, and that each clan of the Aws was also charged with killing a group of Qurayza men.[39][40]
According to Ibn Ishaq’s biography of Muhammad, one woman who had thrown a millstone from the battlements during the siege and killed one of the Muslim besiegers, was also beheaded along with the men. ‘Ã’isha, one of Mohammad’s wives, is cited as describing the woman as laughing and chatting with her during the massacre, down to the moment her name was called out:
‘By Allah,’ she said,’ that is me.’ I said to her ‘You poor soul, what is to happen to you?’ She said:”I must be killed.” “Why?” I asked her. “For something I did,” she answered. She went away and was beheaded. By Allah,(‘Ã’isha adds) I shall never forget her cheerfulness and her great laugh when she knew that she was to be killed.'[38][41]
Ibn Asakir writes in his History of Damascus that the Banu Kilab, a clan of Arab clients of the Banu Qurayza, were also killed.[42]
The spoils of battle, including the enslaved women and children of the tribe, were divided up among the Muslims that had participated in the siege and among the emigrees from Mecca (who had hitherto depended on the help of the Muslims native to Medina.[43][44]
As part of his share of the spoils, Muhammad selected one of the women, Rayhana, for himself and took her as part of his booty.[44] Muhammad offered to free and marry her and according to some sources she accepted his proposal, while according to others she rejected it and remained Muhammad’s slave.[45] She is said to have later become a Muslim.[26]
Scholars argue that Muhammad had already decided upon this judgment before the Qurayza’s surrender, and that Sa’ad was putting his allegiance to the Muslim community above that to his tribe.[4] One reason cited by some for such punishment is that Muhammad’s previous clemency towards defeated foes was in contradiction to Arab and Jewish laws of the time, and was seen as a sign of weakness. Others see the punishment as a response to what was perceived as an act of treason by the Qurayza since they betrayed their joint defence pact with Muhammad by giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the Muslims.[12] Maxime Rodinson interprets the massacre as an astute political move that overrode all feelings of humanity, in order to remove a constant source of threat to Medina, and dishearten his enemies.[38]”
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Some good news! One more evil Islamic terrorist killed!
A sharpshooter killed a top ISIS executioner and three other jihadists with a single bullet from nearly a mile away — just seconds before the fiend was set to burn 12 hostages alive with a flamethrower, according to a new report.
The British Special Air Service marksman turned one of the most hated terrorists in Syria into a fireball by using a Barett .50-caliber rifle to strike a fuel tank affixed to the jihadi’s back, the UK’s Daily Star reported Sunday.
The pack exploded, killing the sadistic terrorist and three of his flunkies, who were supposed to film the execution, last month, the paper said.
The ISIS butcher — who reportedly delighted in burning hostages alive — had been on a US “kill list” for several months, sources told the paper, which did not identify the sniper
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In his research on Muslim groomers, McLoughlin uncovered an unusual distinction between them and non-Muslim pedophiles. Non-Muslim pedophiles are typically lone adults who groom children for sex in reclusive secrecy, worry about being prosecuted by law enforcement, meet accusations with defensive denial and worry about being discovered, shamed, and criticized by friends or relatives. Muslim perpetrators, however, work in gangs, see nothing wrong with their shariah-sanctioned activities, receive collusive support from their communities and feel they are above the law. During his investigations, McLoughlin found not one case of non-Muslim men grooming Muslim girls, although 95% of men in Britain are non-Muslims.
News coverage of the crimes has been mostly obfuscated by a complicit media that characterizes the overwhelmingly Muslim perpetrators as generic “Asians.” According to McLoughlin’s research, limited press coverage by mainly self-censoring journalists and lenient, if any, criminal charges have enabled the gangs to act with relative impunity since 1988.
The author describes how Muslim flesh-peddlers operate as part of a well-organized extensive network of taxi drivers, shop and restaurant owners, and security guards. Girls, mainly between the ages of 11 and 14, the majority from state-run children’s homes, are ensnared while traveling from school to home, at shopping malls, restaurants, bus stations and similar public venues. They are enticed with flattery, feigned friendship, gifts, alcohol and drugs. Alarmingly, a footnote in the book references a quotation from a city outreach worker with the Children’s Society who states, “every girl living in a children’s home in the city of Birmingham is being sexually exploited.
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Authorities foiled an ISIS-linked attack in Paris on Saturday, arresting a 15-year-old boy suspected of preparing an imminent “violent action,” two judicial sources told Reuters.
The boy, who was not identified, had been under house arrest since the coordinated Nov. 13 Paris attacks that killed 130 people. After that deadly episode, France declared a state of emergency. It was not immediately clear why the teen was under house arrest.
The boy was allegedly planning an attack on a public place, a source told Reuters. Another source said that the teen was in contact with a known Islamic extremist, Rashid Kassim.
Kassim, a Syrian-based jihadist, is suspected of being behind a plot to attack a Paris train station this week. Authorities thwarted that scheme, however, arresting seven people, including four women.
The train station plan was uncovered after an abandoned car filled with gas cylinders was found outside of Notre Dame Cathedral last Sunday.
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THE wife of a man critically injured in a terror attack at Minto yesterday said the grandfather and carpenter may never work again after losing several of his fingers in the vicious assault.
Ihsas Khan, 22, was yesterday charged with committing a terrorist act and attempted murder after allegedly stabbing Wayne Greenhalgh, 59, as he walked his dog along Ohlfsen Road, Minto, on Saturday afternoon.
Police believe Khan, who was renowned for his “odd’’ behaviour — including his fiery street preaching where, clad in white robes, he yelled Koranic verses at his neighbours — was inspired by Islamic State and stabbed Wayne because he thought the man embodied Australian culture.
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Muslim Madness in Minto
Brandishing his knife, Khan allegedly rammed the door, headbutting the glass and screaming in Arabic, “I’m here to die.”
“He was stabbing at the glass door and praying in Arabic, saying, ‘Allah Akbar, this is all for Allah’, and he was constantly saying the blood that had been spilt inside the shop was a beautiful sight,” witness Derek Ah Chong told The Daily Telegraph
Let’s hope that sect from Saudi Arabia doesn’t make it to Bundaberg.
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“PEOPLE on a holiday plane jetting off to Venice sat through an unsettling two-hour flight, where a man being deported shouted “Allahu Akbar” and “death is coming”.
Children were said to have been crying as travellers feared a terror attack was imminent, until it became clear the distressed man was handcuffed and being guarded by Home Office officials, The Sun reported.
However passengers say there was no official explanation from the captain or crew as the man shouted and reportedly threatened travellers.
An 11-minute audio recording taken by a nearby passenger was obtained by the Mail on Sunday.
It captures the man faintly shouting “Allahu Akbar” 29 times, “death is coming” 17 times and “we will die” nine times.”
Yeah, hearing a men yelling Allah Akbar and about death these days is scary – whether in Iraq, Syria, London, Queensland, Sydney, Florida, Paris, Davao, Canada, Somalia, India, Nigeria, Indonesia, etc etc etc.
The trick is – `Professor Bonehead says to just ask them whether their brand of Islam came from saudi Arabia or not. If not, don’t worry. Muslims are peaceful and they mean no harm. If yes and their sect starts with W then run, but remember they aren’t real Muslims, so when you’re in hospital recovering from slashing or burning or bomb blasts. don’t mention Islam. Whatever you do don’t mention Islam. That goes for all of you in over twenty countries.
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Muslim backpacker murdering in Qld, attempted terrorism in Paris, bombing in the Philippines.
And now this
A SYDNEY man has been charged with committing a terrorist act and attempted murder after allegedly stabbing an unknown man on the street and then trying to knife a police officer was motivated by terror group ISIS.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has linked the stabbing in Minto with the 9/11 attacks 15 years ago, for the violent Islamist ideology and the heroism trying to tackle it.
But according to resident Islamic expert Professor Bonehead of Bundaberg Uni (I mean some primary school) we have nothing to worry about. None of this has anything to do with Islam -it’s some cult in Saudi Arabia.
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According to this, more Nigerian CHRISTIANS have a favorable view of ISIS than Muslims in the Gaza Strip……
In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS
Recent attacks in Paris, Beirut and Baghdad linked to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have once again brought terrorism and Islamic extremism to the forefront of international relations. According to newly released data that the Pew Research Center collected in 11 countries with significant Muslim populations, people from Nigeria to Jordan to Indonesia overwhelmingly expressed negative views of ISIS.
One exception was Pakistan, where a majority offered no definite opinion of ISIS. The nationally representative surveys were conducted as part of the Pew Research Center’s annual global poll in April and May this year.
In no country surveyed did more than 15% of the population show favorable attitudes toward Islamic State. And in those countries with mixed religious and ethnic populations, negative views of ISIS cut across these lines.
In Lebanon, a victim of one of the most recent attacks, almost every person surveyed who gave an opinion had an unfavorable view of ISIS, including 99% with a very unfavorable opinion. Distaste toward ISIS was shared by Lebanese Sunni Muslims (98% unfavorable) and 100% of Shia Muslims and Lebanese Christians.
Israelis (97%) and Jordanians (94%) were also strongly opposed to ISIS as of spring 2015, including 91% of Israeli Arabs. And 84% in the Palestinian territories had a negative view of ISIS, both in the Gaza Strip (92%) and the West Bank (79%).
Six-in-ten or more had unfavorable opinions of ISIS in a diverse group of nations, including Indonesia, Turkey, Nigeria, Burkina Faso, Malaysia and Senegal.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/
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“Notice survey pattern from a PRO Muslim news site? Higher the percentage of Muslims, the higher the sympathy for ISIS/ Daesh.”
That’s rubbish because you ignored the rest of the article and the percentage of Muslims in Nigeria is 50%.
Lebanese Muslims are killing Daesh.
F#ck you people are dishonest.
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At first glance this obviously pro-Muslim website shows a 2015 survey finds that a vast majority of Muslims condemn Daesh (and therefore contradicts Q).
http://muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper/world-news/survey-show-daesh-repulses-muslims/
In final 2 paragraphs truth becomes obvious to people able to use a calculator.
Nigeria (Wikipedia 2015 approx 50% population Muslim THEREFORE 91 MILLION Muslims):
66% against, 14% for. THEREFORE 34% at very least sympathetic and open to IS / Daesh under certain circumstances/ unwilling to openly express their support.
Malaysia (2016, 61.3% Muslims, 18.4 MILLION Muslims) and Senegal (2014 92 % Muslim, 2016 population 15.6 million, therefore approx. 14.5 MILLION Muslims) :
60% against, 11% for, 29% undecided. THEREFORE 40% open (as above)
Worst is Pakistan, Wikipedia says it’s political capital of Islam (2016 95-97% Muslim, 2016 population 192.8 million people, therefore at least 182 MILLION Muslims). .: 28% against, 9% for, 62% undecided (where’s the final 3%?). THEREFORE Minimum 71% open (as above).
Notice survey pattern from a PRO Muslim news site? Higher the percentage of Muslims, the higher the sympathy for ISIS/ Daesh.
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Just on hezbollah and The Religion of Peace statistics.
Seems Christians like them too.
Two-thirds of Lebanon’s Christians believe Hezbollah is protecting Lebanon from the threat of takfiris (extremist groups), a recent survey by the Beirut Center for Research and Information revealed.
The survey asked people about Hezbollah’s intervention in Syria, replacing Hezbollah fighters with UN peacekeepers on Lebanon’s eastern borders with Syria, Hezbollah’s efficacy in foiling infiltration attempts by the extremist groups, and the goals of the US-led airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.
The center surveyed Christians in particular due to the fact that Christians in Syria and Iraq were among the groups recently targeted by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). The data, which was gathered via phone from October 15th to the 17th, also took into consideration demographic distribution, age and gender.
The survey revealed that 66 percent of Christians support Hezbollah’s military intervention in Syria, in comparison to only 39 percent in June 2013 and 53 percent in February 2014.
Moreover, 58 percent of those surveyed are against replacing members of Hezbollah with international peacekeeping forces, such as INIFIL, to counter attacks by extremist groups on the eastern borders with Syria.
The survey also revealed that 65 percent of those surveyed do not believe that the threat of takfiris attacking Lebanon is in retaliation for Hezbollah’s presence in Syria, contrary to what certain political factions believe.
Furthermore, 73 percent of those surveyed said they “do not believe that the US-led airstrikes in Iraq and Syria aim at eradicating ISIS.”
(Al-Akhbar)
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/22129
And hezbollah have Christians wanting to join
‘They Accept Us as We Are;’ Christians Join Forces With Muslim Group Hezbollah to Fight ISIS in Lebanon
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Christian Post — The Iran-backed Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah, classified for many years by U.S. Intelligence as a terrorist organization, is training Christians to fight ISIS in Lebanon and the Middle Eastern believers say their new and unlikely allies “accept us as we are.”
Citing Lebanese sources, Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin says Christian villages in the Bekaa Valley area of Lebanon are forming militias to join Hezbollah fighters already engaging ISIS and the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nursa Front in the Syrian Qalamoun mountains opposite villages in central and eastern Bekaa.
Rifit Nasrallah, a Catholic businessman who is part of the militias fighting ISIS in Ras Baalbek, discussed the alliance with Hezbollah in an International Business Times report last month.
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‘They Accept Us as We Are;’ Christians Join Forces With Muslim Group Hezbollah to Fight ISIS in Lebanon
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Christian Post — The Iran-backed Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah, classified for many years by U.S. Intelligence as a terrorist organization, is training Christians to fight ISIS in Lebanon and the Middle Eastern believers say their new and unlikely allies “accept us as we are.”
Citing Lebanese sources, Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin says Christian villages in the Bekaa Valley area of Lebanon are forming militias to join Hezbollah fighters already engaging ISIS and the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nursa Front in the Syrian Qalamoun mountains opposite villages in central and eastern Bekaa.
Rifit Nasrallah, a Catholic businessman who is part of the militias fighting ISIS in Ras Baalbek, discussed the alliance with Hezbollah in an International Business Times report last month.
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“We’re in a very dangerous situation,” he said. “The only people who are protecting us are the resistance of Hezbollah. The only one standing with the army is Hezbollah. Let’s not hide it anymore.”
Nasrallah said Hezbollah does not expect its allies to convert to Islam or create an allegiance to the group’s ideals.
“They accept us as we are,” he said. “They do not impose on us anything. When there’s an occasion, they come to our children’s birthdays. The people here accept that Hezbollah comes and helps.”
This unlikely alliance between Christians and Hezbollah is a far cry from the adversarial relationship depicted between the two groups in the region.
According to the IB Times report, however, the alliance is one of convenience. Hezbollah is Iran’s strongest proxy in that area of Lebanon and has been a key factor in keeping President Bashar Assad’s regime in power after four years of the Syrian war. Protecting Ras Baalbek is a priority for the group because losing it to ISIS would put the surrounding Shiite towns under direct threat.
As a result, Hezbollah has invested heavily in sustaining the relationship with Christians. The group trained Christians in Syria to fight ISIS alongside them, according to a November report from Lebanese newspaper An-Nahar and even paid wages similar to Hezbollah members for Christians joining their ranks.
“We are not speaking of an assumed threat, we are speaking of a real aggression that exists every hour, every day, every night,” said Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah in a recent speech. He explained that armed groups have launched continuous attacks inside Lebanese territories while also holding dozens of Lebanese soldiers and police officers hostage, “so we need a permanent solution.”
Last fall, The Christian Post reported that GOP 2016 presidential candidate, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, was booed after he offended some Middle Eastern Christians by declaring at an event in Washington, D.C. that “Christians have no greater ally than Israel.”
Mark Tooley, president of the Institute of Religion and Democracy and an attendee at the evening event, later wrote in a blog entry that he was not surprised by the reaction.
“It’s no secret that many Mideast Christians generally aren’t big fans of Israel. I learned this firsthand during the 2006 Israel war on Hezbollah, when my discussion at church with a Lebanese Christian nearly escalated to a shouting match,” wrote Tooley.
“Sometimes American Christians romanticize overseas persecuted Christians into disembodied noble souls unaffected by terrestrial concerns. But they, like everybody else, have histories, loyalties, resentments, grievances, and political calculations.”
The Times of Israel reported in March that Iran and Hezbollah were removed from the list of terror threats against the U.S. as a result of its campaign against ISIS.
“We believe that this results from a combination of diplomatic interests (the United States’ talks with Iran about a nuclear deal) with the idea that Iran could assist in the battle against the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq and maybe even in the battle against jihadist terrorism in other countries,” the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center said in an analysis of the unclassified version of the Worldwide Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Communities released in February.
Another American body, the Defense Intelligence Agency, however, said both Iran and Hezbollah were still terrorism threats.
“Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) and Lebanese Hezbollah are instruments of Iran’s foreign policy and its ability to project power in Iraq, Syria, and beyond,” noted the body in their assessment, submitted to the U.S. Senate on Feb. 26.
“Hezbollah continues to support the Syrian regime, pro-regime militants and Iraqi Shiite militants in Syria. Hezbollah trainers and advisors in Iraq assist Iranian and Iraqi Shiite militias fighting Sunni extremists there. Select Iraqi Shiite militant groups also warned of their willingness to fight U.S. forces returning to Iraq,” it noted.
Below is a propoganda video released by Hezbollah to showcase it’s unity with Christians in Lebanon and Syria.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/they-accept-us-as-we-are-christians-join-forces-with-muslim-group-hezbollah-to-fight-isis-in-lebanon/210088/
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It’s because of the actions of arseholes like Q that people hate Christianity.
I can understand why.
But Q is no Christian.
He’s just a pathetic bitter little man who has to find people to hate and has found allies in the extreme right.
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Q doesn’t hate Muslims.
He just lies about them.
A lot.
And he enjoys it.
F#cking moron.
Stay with your extreme right dickhead supporters.
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I know which site you got that from
The Religion of Peace.
A site devoted to hating Muslims ..
There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
Of course The Religion of Peace wouldn’t post this..
Vast majority of British Muslims ‘do not sympathise’ with suicide bombers, survey shows
The survey is one of the most in-depth studies of British Muslim sentiment
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/vast-majority-of-british-muslims-do-not-sympathise-with-suicide-bombers-survey-shows-a6977826.html
You have been caught out yet again for being a divisive lying prick who hates those not like him.
What a disgraceful dickhead you are.
And you have the temerity to laugh about it. Swearing’s nothing compared to the abuse you post. F#cking disgraceful cr@p from extreme right wing sites.
It shows everyone what a complete and abject failure you are.
There’s something wrong with you.
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Okay, I’ll leave David and Bones with this.
Islam, what are we afraid of?
Show some integrity and read through these. This is all you need to know.
Statistics. Just facts
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is “acceptable”.
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate
.Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.37% believe Jews in Britain are a “legitimate target”.
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam”.
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to “defend Islam”. 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the ‘moderate’ countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the “global Jihad (64% disagree).
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
Have you both read this far? So… there are some good Muslims for you.
So was Mohammed a Muslim? A good representation of Islam?
Didn’t answer did you Bones.
Okay, I’ll let you get back to your old NRL videos.
I’ll be back in November. . Got to go help Trump get elected.
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Bones, you are funny!
So, being against gay marriage means I hate gays??
So, 3 or 4 years ago, you hated gays? Obama and Clinton hated gays?
“The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, considered Australia’s most important Islamic organisation, came out strongly against removing discrimination against same-sex partners in federal law. Chairman Ikebal Patel said such moves would threaten the “holy relationship” of marriage between a man and woman/a man and several women and the core values of supporting families”
Wow! Muslims hate gays?????
Okay, I’d love to see Bones go and swear at Muslims and abuse them for hating gays! You won’t see that!!
Nah, the likelihood of Bones showing an ounce of consistency and ceasing his hypocrisy and double standards is about the same as the chances he’ll throw away his Ian Roberts mags….! lol
Obama’s step-brother in Kenya who is a Muslim supports a temporary ban on Muslim immigration. Does he hate Muslims?
Bones, you throw the hate word around a lot. I think you’re projecting.
lol
I don’t hate anyone.
But reading your posts, I’m beginning to think you have psychological problems, so I’ll cease and desist from answering you.
But for the last time, I get on okay with gays and Muslims.
Have a F@# nice night. LOL Maybe your gay lovers like it when you talk dirty, but it does nothing for me .
Shalom
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lol @ your responses. Just like on the other thread. No answers just swearing and insults and false accusations.
Just like the old days hey Bones. When you’re beat the swearing comes out.
lol
have a nice night down under. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Btw Paul E Marak makes Pauline Hanson look like a progressive
http://cjunk.blogspot.com.au/
But he fooled poor ol Mrs Graham and Q.
Although Q wouldn’t mind being fooled about hating Muslims.
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And poor Q still sooking after being outed as a gay basher….
How sad……..that all these years later it still affects him.
Some of us get on with life but not poor Q…..
And the poor thing has found another object to hate and poor his scorn on.
No matter. The fact that he hates it that gay people and Muslims live freely in our country is his problem.
His internet rants won’t change that.
People don’t look for Q for Christianity…
He lies about his neighbours and spreads lies throughout the net.
He hates his neighbour…..and Christ.
He is not a disciple of Christ but of Pauline Hanson.
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Were the Crusaders Christian, dickhead????
Good luck finding a supposed ‘true’ Christian in the Middle Ages when they were burning people alive…
After all they weren’t ‘true’ Christians or some shit.
It’s not like ‘true’ Christians believe God wants them to invade other countries, hey George W.
Q obviously doesn’t think we have killed enough Muslims yet….
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It’s a shame Ruth Graham didn’t educate her extremist son…..or maybe she did….
And Dr Emanuel Tanay had nothing to do with writing about Islam….
More lies and propaganda from the Muslim hater….
Why do supposed Christians like lying about others…it must make them feel good…
A German’s View on Islam
Rumor: Holocaust survivor Dr. Emanuel Tanay penned an essay about the dangers of Islam.
INCORRECTLY ATTRIBUTED
Origins: On 21 February 2006, Canadian Paul Marek published on his blog Celestial Junk an article titled “Why the Peaceful Majority is Irrelevant.” In passages such as the following, Marek’s essay warned about the dangers of Islamic fanaticism and dismissed as irrelevant the notion that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful:
Marek’s article has been republished in books such as How to Achieve a Heaven on Earth and Getting Through: How to Talk to Non-Muslims About the Disturbing Nature of Islam, and it has been widely circulated on the Internet under the title “A German’s View on Islam.” However, in the latter form the essay has most commonly been attributed to the late Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a psychiatrist and Holocaust survivor who isn’t German (he was born in Poland and immigrated to the United States) and had nothing to do with writing it.
It is uncertain how Dr. Tanay’s name became attached to Internet-circulated versions of this essay. Some versions of the message state Tanay was one of the people (perhaps the first) who forwarded Marek’s article to a wider audience, but this explanation does not seem likely and has not been proved.
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This article is worth reading.
Ruth Graham’s blog
Radical Islam
This is an excellent explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. It was sent to me…take the time to read it.
The author of this email is Dr Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
‘Very few people were true Nazis,’ he said, ‘but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.’ My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.
‘We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.
‘Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.
‘It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
‘The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority,’ is cowed and extraneous.
‘Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
‘China ‘s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
‘The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were ‘peace loving?
‘History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our Enemy if they don’t speak up. Like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them and the end of their world will have begun.
‘Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
‘Now Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa, too, while the Lord’s Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive? The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.
‘In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation’s shores.
‘In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of “no-go” zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.
‘As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts – the fanatics who threaten our way of life.’
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Time for a break again. But a simple answer is needed.
Muhammed – was he a true Muslim or not?
Does he represent Islam?
Bones? Does he pass your real Islam test?
Islam; What are we afraid of?
Mohammed – what were Jews and Christians afraid of?
Well we could write for hours answering that.
Devout Christians try to emulate Christ. And what happens compared to the devout Muslims who take Mohammeds sayings and actions as models to live by.
More homework for Bones to think about.
Because I don’t think he knows anything about the history of Islam.
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Allah’s Apostle offered the Fajr prayer when it was still dark, then he rode and said, ‘Allah Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. When we approach near to a nation, the most unfortunate is the mourning of those who have been warned.” The people came out into the streets saying, “Muhammad and his army.” Allah’s Apostle vanquished them by force and their warriors were killed; the children and women were taken as captives. Safiya was taken by Dihya Al-Kalbi and later she belonged to Allah’s Apostle go who married her and her Mahr was her manumission.
Bonehead’s Response.
They weren’t Muslim’s you moron!
Mohammed doesn’t represent Islam. Mohammed was hijacking Islam you F&&& prick.
Oh … Wait … Eh …..
Anyway, even if Mohammed killed and raided .., he uh well I’m sure Wahibbism had something….oh no..
Eh F&@. Salafi?? Eh. …..internet help me out!!!!
Anyway, Jews are evil – it says so on this website I found and Jesus was just as bad …
And …agh F@& off Q, you and your facts! Truth is a right-wing sleazy tactic!
I’m a teacher and the kids won’t know any better!
Stay tuned for more murder, bloodshed, kidnapping of women by Mohammed and his followers and watch Bones try to defend it by furious copying and pasting about Saudis or whatever comes up on the first page of a Google search…
Meanwhile, in 28 countries Christians have restricted rights. As opposed to Muslims in western countries – oh sorry Non-Muslims and those who pass the Bonehead True Muslim Test …
Please Bones – go live in any Muslim country of your choosing. See how long you last.
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one of Bones pals
Bones would have let him out if he swore he wasn’t a Wahabbi….
Read all of the article please.
As the Obama administration released 15 more high value Al Qaeda detainees from Guantanamo (GITMO), former detainee Ibrahim Ahmed Mahmoud Al Qosi — who was released in 2012 as part of a plea deal after pleading guilty to conspiracy and supporting terrorism and joined and immediately hooked up with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) in December 2014 – this week vowed attacks in the US by English-speaking jihadis with Western names not on CIA or FBI terrorist lists.
“[Attacks] will continue but will be [in] a creative and new way by men of your own [who] carry your names, speak your language, and did not receive training in Afghanistan, and whose names are not on the CIA and FBI black list – men who might have in the past drunk alcohol, eaten pork, or been soldiers in your army,” Al Qosi, a member of AQAP’s Shura council, vowed in an article published by Al Marsa, a weekly newspaper affiliated with AQAP.
He also “urged the mujahideen in Syria to unite and form a new army whose mission would be to liberate Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem,” according to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).
Homeland Security Today previously reported that Al Qaeda and its affiliated groups like AQAP were actively recruiting radicalized Westerners unknown to counterterrorism authorities who are able to travel freely throughout the West.
In September 2004, and again in November 2007, Joint Task Force-GITMO (JTF-GITMO) “recommend[ed] this detainee for continued detention under Department of Defense [DoD] control” because he “is an admitted veteran jihadist with combat experience beginning in 1990 and it is assessed he would engage in hostilities against US forces, if released,” according to JTF-GITMO’S classified file on Al Qosi.
Indeed, the “Secret” JTF-GITMO file on Al Qosi considered him to be, “A high risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests, and allies” if he were ever released, noting that he vowed a “long term commitment to jihad.”
The JTF-GITMO file further noted Al Qosi “has openly admitted being a member
of Al Qaeda, as well as a trusted associate and loyal bodyguard to Usama Bin Laden (UBL),” and “has been very forthright regarding his commitment to UBL and Al Qaeda.”
The classified file further noted that he “is an admitted Al Qaeda operative and one of UBL’s most trusted associates and veteran bodyguard. Detainee was the accountant for UBL’s Taba Investment Company (TIC) in Sudan, which provided financial and logistical services for UBL and Al Qaeda. Detainee served as a treasurer and courier for TIC. Detainee is associated with senior Al Qaeda members and received advanced training. Detainee participated in hostilities against US and Coalition forces at Tora Bora, Afghanistan.”
In his article, Oh the Mujahideen in Syria: Form Osama’s Army, “Al Qusi criticized Muslim scholars and preachers who advocate for peace and moderation on TV channels instead of inciting Muslims to wage jihad, and praised the mujahideen for sacrificing their blood and lives for jihad for the sake of Allah,” MEMRI reported. “The term ‘Osama’s army’ in the article refers to an army created by the Prophet Muhammad during his last days and commanded by one of his companions, Osama Ibn Zayd.”
He called on the “mujahideen to be prepared and continue the fight against the US until its last soldier leaves the Muslim lands,” MEMRI said.
“Al Qosi then proposed that the mujahideen in Syria unite and form an army to fight the Jews and liberate Al Aqsa in Jerusalem,” MEMRI said. “This army, he said, will enrage and terrify the Jews and the Americans.
“By Allah’s name, this matter [the army] is what most terrifies the Americans and the Jews, as well as those who support and protect them [such as] the surrounding countries and the hypocrites led by the Al Saud [family] and all the parties of resistance, as they will [find themselves] in a critical situation before all Muslims and would have two options, the sweetest of which would be bitter: either to be with the mujahideen or with the brothers of apes and pigs,” Al Qosi wrote.
Islam:What are we afraid of……
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“For those like Q who wet themselves when they see a Moooossslllimmm”
Wow, your mental illness is getting worse. It’s Muslim.
And for the tenth time, I regularly met and ate with Muslims.
“Muslims answer the questions Australians wanted to ask but were too embarrassed or afraid to ever ask in person.”
Not interested in watching that. I’ve studied Islam. And I’m not embarrassed or afraid about asking questions to Muslims.
Maybe you can read the statistics about their answers to how many sympathise with terrorists, are in favor of criminalising homosexual behaviour, want sharia law, etc etc. Do you know?
No you don’t.
You don’t know anything about Islam.
The Bundaberg Bonehead, spends hours attacking Christians, and days defending Islam.
Join up Bones. No, go and live in a country with 90% Muslims in it, swear at them and then come back and tell us what you think
Please.
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“Poor Q is still sooking after all these years after threatening to bash a poster…”
Not looking. Laughing at you! And yes, I let my emotions get out of hand. I really get angry with anti-semites spreading lies about Jews through insane misunderstands of the Talmud. I shouldn’t have treated to bash the anti-semite. I should have gotten them arrested. My bad.
“Yep I teach kids – Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists…..regardless of their religion i treat them the same – as human beings.”
Let’s get the violins out. That was just so touching. But its a lie. You boast about steering them away from right-wing views. That isn’t your job. There should be an inquiry into teachers forcing their political views on students. And how could you treat Jews as humans? You posted that the Talmud okays pedophilia. That’s disgusting. You should be made to do community service at the nearest synagogue.
“Thankfully i no longer have anything to do with pricks like you who are full of hate.”
haha. I don’t hate anyone. Not even you. Swearing again? So hateful.
Learn to love, Bonehead….I mean Bones.
“You and your One Nation mates are a tiny minority in this country – and will always be.”
lol I don’t have anything to do with One Nation. You need to get a checkup. Delusions are a symptom of schizophrenia.
And Jew-hating hateful bigots like you are an extreme minority. Actually, you’re in a class of your own .
“The true Christians are those like Fr Rod Bower.”
Bones knows who the true Muslims are and who the true Christians are.
But I don’t doubt that Fr Rod Bower is a good man. You should learn from him.
“Not wannabes who use their religion to hate others.”
The only person on this website who hates is you Bones. You must be using your own Bonism religion to hate others.
Calm down, or I’ll tell your wife to burn those Ian Roberts pics you have under your bed. lol
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“The Islam of extremism is a perversion of wahabbism.
Of course you don’t give a f*ck about that.
It’s all about the Muslim.”
You’re right. I don’t give a ….. about that.
You still haven’t shown that all the Muslims who kill, behead, rape, shoot, bomb from Mindanao to England to Boston to Orlando to France are all followers of Wahabbism? Is that really what you are saying?
All the Muslims who are killing in the world from the Munich Olympics to the rebels in Mindanao to the pack rapists in Indonesia are Wahabbists??
Really?
Hey Time, CNN, Obama, BBC, etc etc – send a camera crew to Bundaberg right away!!!
so……is it okay to have a temporary ban on Wahabist Muslims?
Can the world get together and face the problem of NON-Islamic Wahabbist terrorism?? What a mouthful.
Okay, send this new wording you insist on to Obama, and offer your services to the Dept of Immigration.
Wow….you’ve really spun out of control this time Bonehead. lol
But okay, let’s say for arguments sake that every act of violence thats happened in the last 30 years has been by an adherent of Wahabbi Islam, then please tell the other Muslims to sort this out.
Your mate Choudary. Should he be jailed? The Imam in London. Is he a Muslim or not?
Wow, Bones knows more about who is a Muslim than Muslims.
A legend in his own mind.
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“Seems they know something you don’t…”
Not at all. You obviously don’t read. Muslims killing other muslims doesn’t negate anything I’ve said. They do it all the time. Some Muslim mothers make their babies heads bleed.
Islam is not a religion of peace. They’ve been fighting each other for centuries and still do. And furthermore, Muslims aren’t interested in donating land for any Muslims near Israel either.
You’ve missed the point. Again!
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For those like Q who wet themselves when they see a Moooossslllimmm
You Can’t Ask That
Muslims
Muslims answer the questions Australians wanted to ask but were too embarrassed or afraid to ever ask in person.
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/you-cant-ask-that/LE1517H004S00#playing
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Poor Q is still sooking after all these years after threatening to bash a poster…
Yep I teach kids – Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists…..regardless of their religion i treat them the same – as human beings.
Thankfully i no longer have anything to do with pricks like you who are full of hate.
You and your One Nation mates are a tiny minority in this country – and will always be.
The true Christians are those like Fr Rod Bower.
Not wannabes who use their religion to hate others.
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The Islam of extremism is a perversion of wahabbism.
Of course you don’t give a f*ck about that.
It’s all about the Muslim.
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Someone needs to tell Nigeria’s Muslim president to stop killing Boko Haram…who have NOW decided not to kill Muslims….
In fact thousands of Catholic and Protestant leaders backed him over the Christian President Goodluck.
Seems they know something you don’t…
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So let me get this straight. There’s a primary school teacher running around the Bundaberg classrooms claiming to teach and influence his students to his political views and this same man swears his head off on the internet and at one time posted vile anti-semitic nonsense which is instantly de-bunked which he copied and pasted from a website committed to spreading hatred towards Jews.
That is incredibly disturbing.
Don’t they have a screening process for teachers?
Don’t teachers have to show some basic internet competence?
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By the way Mr Bones.
Study what Mohammed said and did and tell me that Wahhabism isn’t Islamic.
What the hell is the subject you teach.. Go study the history of Islam.
And please don’t tell me you are a primary school teacher….
Please no!!
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Boko Haram reportedly has a new leader who has assured an ISIS interviewer the group would not be targeting Muslims.
ISIS’ magazine al-Naba announced that Sheikh Abu Musab al-Barnawi is the new leader of Boko Haram, an ISIS affiliate in Nigeria, in an interview with him in its recent issue.
Barnawi didn’t promise to quit enslaving girls, nor to quit ambushing relief columns bringing food to 244,000 starving children, nor to quit slaughtering people who will not convert to Islam or fight for Boko Haram, nor to quit using children as bombs.
But in an interview with Naba, he did deny responsibility for attacks on Muslims, saying they were perpetrated by people with other agendas.
“We do not target prayer places or markets for people who belong to Islam,” he told Naba.
Bones, read it again.
Boko Haram reportedly has a new leader who has assured an ISIS interviewer the group would not be targeting Muslims.
ISIS’ magazine al-Naba announced that Sheikh Abu Musab al-Barnawi is the new leader of Boko Haram, an ISIS affiliate in Nigeria, in an interview with him in its recent issue.
Barnawi didn’t promise to quit enslaving girls, nor to quit ambushing relief columns bringing food to 244,000 starving children, nor to quit slaughtering people who will not convert to Islam or fight for Boko Haram, nor to quit using children as bombs.
But in an interview with Naba, he did deny responsibility for attacks on Muslims, saying they were perpetrated by people with other agendas.
“We do not target prayer places or markets for people who belong to Islam,” he told Naba.
Bones. You should stick to subjects you really know about. Like Ian Roberts abs or hook up apps for closeted gay men disguised as happily married men .
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“That you can’t tell the difference between Islam and salafism says much about you. And how completely moronic you are.”
Bones. I read the Huffington Post article before you did.
If you want to argue that Salafis are not Muslims, you will be in an argument with a lot of Muslims. I don’t think you know enough about the subject. The fact that some people who call themselves Muslims are killing other Muslims doesn’t mean the world doesn’t have a problem with Islamic terrorism.
Most of the world understands that.
So, Bones. Are you in favor of a temporary ban on Salafi Muslims?
Think carefully.
And make sure you answer the question.
You are saying that Wahhabis and Salafis are not Muslims.
So….will you ban the Wahhabis and Salafis?
Do you know the difference?
Do you know what they believe?
How many Islamic Imams will you get to confirm that Salafis are not Muslims?
The lone wolf Muslim terrorists in Europe – are they Salafis or Muslims?
The Muslim’s who killed the Israelis in Munich, the Philippines, England, France, Bali etc etc….they are all not Muslims but salafis?
You can prove that? Go ahead.
remember you and group sects will gladly post crime after crime committed by Christians of any sect you like.
There’s your homework. No pasting from anti-semitic sects will be allowed.
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“And yeah I teach kids not to be right wing pricks.”
Then you should be fired. Tell us your name and school please.
Teaching politics is not your job.
Name and school. I’ll make a phone call tomorrow.
“So suck on that, you hateful moron.”
Here we go with the name calling again.
“Unlike you who wets himself when he sees a Muslim.”
I have more Muslim friends than you probably.
“wants to bash up gay people because Ian Roberts came onto him.”
I have never and would never bash a gay person. I have gay friends. And Ian Roberts never came onto me. I think that’s your fantasy.lol
Have you told your wife? Maybe she can wear an Ian Roberts mask in bed so you can overcome that ahem… little problem of yours.
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What’s funny is you’ve been funding Boko Haram and terrorist groups for the past 20 years.
How Saudi Wahhabism Is the Fountainhead of Islamist Terrorism
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6501916
Now for the uneducated who wet themselves when they see a Muslim.
Boko Haram hates Muslims too….just like you.
Why Boko Haram Keeps Bombing Nigeria’s Mosques
Since taking office a little over a month ago, Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari has made the war against terror in his country his top priority, meeting with leaders of neighboring countries affected by the brutal Boko Haram insurgency; relocating his military command center away from the capital Abuja to the northeast city of Maiduguri, the heart of the insurgency; and attending a Group of Seven meeting with a detailed wish list to take on the violent Islamist extremists.
In return, Boko Haram appears to be coming after every Nigerian who voted for the man the terror group has labeled an “infidel”—and Muslims like him who support democracy.
“The reason why I will kill you is you are infidels, you follow democracy,” Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau said in a video message released in February, weeks before the election. “Whoever follows democracy is an infidel. This is Shekau, this is why I’m in enmity with you.”
With Buhari having been elected president, courtesy of an overwhelming support from Muslim voters in the north, Shekau’s followers are now following through on that very threat.
It began May 30, a day after Buhari was sworn in. A male suicide bomber detonated inside a mosque near the central marketplace in Maiduguri, killing 26 worshippers, injuring more than 30, and leveling the site.
For weeks, attacks followed in heavily populated northern Muslim areas, targeting traders and commuters. But Boko Haram saved its worst for the days leading to the end of Ramadan. On the night of July 3, its militants killed nearly 150 people praying in mosques as part of the holy month. Witnesses said the insurgents mowed down men and children in three remote villages in Borno state—and shot women preparing food at home. The militants slaughtered residents and burned down houses in their deadliest day since Buhari came to power.
In Kukawa, the worst-affected village, Mo Yusuf, a member of the local vigilante group, said gunmen killed at least 97 people, mainly men, who were gathered in mosques, praying ahead of breaking their fast.
The attack came the day after the Islamic sect hit a nearby Mussaram village and killed an additional 48 men and boys. There, insurgents ordered men and women to separate and then opened fire on the men and boys, an eyewitness said.
The attacks follow a directive from the self-proclaimed Islamic State for fighters to increase attacks during Ramadan. Boko Haram in April announced it had become ISIS’s West African franchise. By Friday, as Muslims around the world prepared to celebrate Eid al Fitr, some 300 were dead in Nigeria, including at least nine more on Friday in Damaturu, after female suicide bombers detonated at a festival screening area.
But Boko Haram’s thirst for the blood of Muslim worshippers goes beyond its alliance with ISIS. It regards the traditional Islamic religious authorities in northern Nigeria as corrupt, self-serving elites that are too close to the secular government, and makes no distinction between them and their followers.
Last November, Boko Haram militants opened fire on worshippers at the Kano Central Mosque, located next to the palace of the emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II, an influential northern Muslim leader. About 35 people died.
The attack was in response to a statement made by Sanusi, calling on Muslims to “acquire what they need” to defend themselves from Boko Haram, and saying: “People must not wait for soldiers to protect them.”
Most Islamic leaders have shied away from direct criticism of the jihadi group for fear of reprisals. But Sanusi, a notable voice in the campaign to free the abducted Chibok girls and a close ally to Buhari, has been increasingly vocal.
The president himself may best illustrate new worries about the mosque attacks. This month, he attended Friday prayers inside his official residence in the presidential villa—the first time a Jumat service was held on the premises—rather than at the National Mosque in the center of Abuja.
A statement released by Buhari’s spokesman insisted he did so “out of consideration for avoidable hardships imposed on members of the public by road closures and other security measures.”
But not everyone is convinced.
Ushie Michael, a security analyst based in the southern city of Calabar, said the Abuja National Mosque has very few restrictions for Muslim worshippers, and given the level of insecurity and threats by Boko Haram, it portends a huge risk to the president.
“The president’s security team probably knows it is risky to attend the Jumat service at the National Mosque,” he said. “At this time when Boko Haram has made attacks on mosques their top priority, they wouldn’t want him to become a target.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/20/why-boko-haram-keeps-bombing-nigeria-s-mosques.html
It’s weird how the Muslim president is doing a better job of rounding up Boko Haram.
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Fmd you’re a retard.
Was that you at Fr Rod Bower’s church?
It wouldn’t surprise me. It’s the sort of thing dickheads like you would do.
That you can’t tell the difference between Islam and salafism says much about you. And how completely moronic you are.
Of course your slavish devotion to Muslim hating sites shows that you are a complete and utter dick.
And yeah I teach kids not to be right wing pricks.
And to think.
So suck on that, you hateful moron.
Unlike you who wets himself when he sees a Muslim. And wants to bash up gay people because Ian Roberts came onto him.
You have so much in common with your right wing Islamic mates.
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There have been over 23,000 deadly Islamic attacks (not including thwarted plots) since 9/11 by Muslims yelling Allahu Akbar, calling themselves Muslims, quoting the Koran and forcing non-Muslims to quote the Koran but who aren’t really Muslims because a Bundaberg teacher who prowls anti-Semitic websites say so.
He’s now forming the Bundaberg Society of Understanding of Real Muslims Who Aren’t the Fake Muslims which had to disband because the Fake Muslims Who Say they are Real Muslims objected and fire-bombed the old office yelling Allahu Akbar which Bones sings while strumming on his guitar because he says it could very well be a really cool Christian worship song.
Yes folks – this man teaches your children…..
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“Idiot…Boko Haram does not represent Islam….”
“Get educated, moron.”
Lol This might work in the classrooms of Bundaberg where people are intimidated by you Bones.,
But when you’re out in the real world – YOU are the one who people think is an idiot and moron who needs to be educated.
Leaving aside the fact that non-Muslims and Muslims could debate for hours – months – centuries who the true Muslims are, the whole point is that the western world shouldn’t have to worry about Shiite vs Sunni and the intricacies of Wahhabism and whether there is a difference between Salafi and Wahhabism (yes – get educated Moron!)
They just don’t want to be raped, beheaded, bombed, shot, put in boiling water etc.
And shouldn’t have to worry if the educated rich kid Muslim in England is like you (a half-baked amateur wannabe researcher) who decides Salafi or abc Islam or really cool and pure Islam is true before he starts shooting people.
To say that certain groups aren’t Muslim …..is beside the point . They say they are. And the less Muslims there are in a country the less chance there is of them being adherents to a branch of Islam that you seem not Islam. People here can’t even agree about which denominations of Christianity are Christian or not. But if Methodists were doing what self proclaimed Muslims were doing in the world lots of people would be afraid of Christians or would at least be doing everything they could to make sure the refugees weren’t Methodist- and they wouldn’t care if some objected because they were Wesleyan Methodist or the People’s Front of Methodism and si were okay.
Instead of your cushy job brainwashing little Queenslander kids why don’t YOU process refugees and use your expertise to decide which ones fit your understanding of what a true Islamist is?
And remember , I doubt banning Salafi’s will be acceptable.
Islam:What are we afraid of?
We’re afraid of the Islamists who say they are Muslims who Bones says aren’t really Muslims but who talk about Islam all day and shout Allahu Akbar when they kill people.
Anyway, if Gordon Bennett is a moron for referring to Boko Haram as Muslims then go rage at CNN the BBC and Wikipedia.
And don’t argue that they are run by Jews or some crazy conspiracy theory you picked up from an anti-Semitic hate site.
Make sure you read this and then apologize to Mr Bennet
Wikipedia
Boko Haram, referred to by themselves as al-Wilāyat al-Islāmiyya Gharb Afrīqiyyah (Arabic: الولاية الإسلامية غرب أفريقيا, (Islamic State West Africa Province, ISWAP),[11] and Jamā’at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da’wah wa’l-Jihād (Arabic: جماعة أهل السنة للدعوة والجهاد, “Group of the People of Sunnah for Preaching and Jihad”),[12] is an Islamic extremist group based in northeastern Nigeria, also active in Chad, Niger and northern Cameroon.[6]
CNN
(CNN)Boko Haram reportedly has a new leader who has assured an ISIS interviewer the group would not be targeting Muslims.
ISIS’ magazine al-Naba announced that Sheikh Abu Musab al-Barnawi is the new leader of Boko Haram, an ISIS affiliate in Nigeria, in an interview with him in its recent issue.
Barnawi didn’t promise to quit enslaving girls, nor to quit ambushing relief columns bringing food to 244,000 starving children, nor to quit slaughtering people who will not convert to Islam or fight for Boko Haram, nor to quit using children as bombs.
But in an interview with Naba, he did deny responsibility for attacks on Muslims, saying they were perpetrated by people with other agendas.
“We do not target prayer places or markets for people who belong to Islam,” he told Naba.
BBC
Nigeria’s militant Islamist group Boko Haram – which has caused havoc in Africa’s most populous country through a wave of bombings, assassinations and abductions – is fighting to overthrow the government and create an Islamic state.
Boko Haram promotes a version of Islam which makes it “haram”, or forbidden, for Muslims to take part in any political or social activity associated with Western society.
Yeah I know. I totally beat you and showed you up for the uneducated clown you are – so I’m in for a stream of F&@
It’s rude to call people idiots and morons Bones.
But if you do , I’ll give it back.
I hate bullies.
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In fact many of the girls I was referring to in my earlier comment were from Christian families. You avoided this and brought up another incident.
‘Many schools in the region had shut down. Boko Haram was targeting them because of their opposition to Western education, which the militants believe corrupts the values of Muslims.
But Chibok had not been attacked before, so it was felt safe to use the school for the important final year exams. Many of the pupils were Christians.
The gunmen arrived in the town late at night in a blaze of gunfire and headed for the school where they raided the dormitories and loaded 276 girls on to lorries.’
I was actually asking if you felt any kind of indignation towards people like Boko Haram who act in the name of Islam in the way they did in this instance, and in the way they seem to have no regard for the lives of people they murder.
You seem to be more angry towards those who do see this form of aggressive Islamic militance as detestable than against the perpetrators, even denying that they are in any way Islamic, despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.
Are you also saying you don’t consider ISIL to be Islamic either?
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Bones,
‘Boko Haram does not represent Islam’
They seem to think they do.
‘The group’s official name is Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’awati wal-Jihad, which in Arabic means “People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet’s Teachings and Jihad”.’
Of course, this is only according to BBC reports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13809501
They go on…
‘Nigeria’s militant Islamist group Boko Haram – which has caused havoc in Africa’s most populous country through a wave of bombings, assassinations and abductions – is fighting to overthrow the government and create an Islamic state.
Boko Haram promotes a version of Islam which makes it “haram”, or forbidden, for Muslims to take part in any political or social activity associated with Western society.
This includes voting in elections, wearing shirts and trousers or receiving a secular education.’
I guess you also have an explanation for the girls having to wear the khimar, the Muslim head covering, or the chador.
Your own article quoted ‘The spate of attacks follow a directive from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group for fighters to increase attacks during Ramadan.’
This is because Boko Haram, which is Arabic for banning Western education, has allied itslef with ISIL.
They attack mosques because they are militant Islamists who see moderates as infidels.
It’s sad to see that you are unable to have a civil discussion. Perhaps they have got to you more than you think.
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You idiot…Boko Haram does not represent Islam….
Boko Haram kills scores praying in Nigeria mosques
At least 140 people killed in Boko Haram attacks on three towns in country’s northeastern Borno State.
Officials said the people of Kukawa were in several mosques, praying ahead of breaking their daylong fast, when the fighters attacked.
“We are being told that Boko Haram fighters arrived in seven cars and on nine motorcycles in the town before embarking on their attack, and that over 1,000 Nigerian soldiers were in Kanwa, about 11km away but didn’t come to the rescue,” our correspondent said.
Officials in Kukawa said some fighters then broke into people’s homes, killing women and children as they prepared the evening meal.
“Some witnesses have described awful scenes,” our correspondent said.
“A witness called Kolo said they killed men and young boys in the mosques and then proceeded to burn the corpses they had killed. They then indiscriminately attacked women and children who were at home.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/muslims-massacred-boko-haram-sweep-nigera-150702191439658.html
I’m pretty sure the ones killing Islamic extremists such as ISIS are Muslims…..
They’re a bunch of animals who are inspired by the Saudi ideology of salafism like all extremists are eg ISIS,Al Qaeda, Taliban, Chechen rebels, Jemaah Islamiyah.
A present from our Saudi allies to the West and the Middle East.
Get educated, moron.
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Notice how Bones comes up with a single alleged case compared with the now daily excursions into terror by Islamic militants.
To him, according to comments in this thread, the terrorist acts are the fault, not of the militants, but of those they seek to draw into conflict.
Bones, do you have any anger, or at least concern, about the captured schoolgirls in Nigeria, who were kidnapped against their will two years ago?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32299943
Are you going to blame those who are incensed by this cowardly abduction for their captivity, use as chattels, probable prostitution, destruction of their previously normal family lives, liberty and hope of the sound Christian future they previously enjoyed, not to mention their education which which has been severely disrupted, probably irreparably?
I ask this because I see a high degree of anger on your part, but it seems misguided and aimed at those who are perplexed and even frustrated to the point of anger by the need of terror organisations to behead ‘infidels’, throw gay men off high parapets, blow up ordinary citizens in market places, airports, shopping centres, and social clubs, break up families, destroy innocent lives, shatter the peace of nations and seek a global conflict.
Of course not all Muslims are to blame for the actions of deadly militants, and the majority want to get on with living normal lives, but nevertheless the problem with the terrorists exists, is real, is a threat, and is entirely of their own accord. The way you seek to blame the West, or those who seek a response is unhelpful and problematic.
Rather than put the picture in focus you seem to want to distort the facts and aim your wrath at those who are simply indignant at the cowardly and aggressive acts and designs of medieval religious fanatics who seek to end any kind of peaceful solution, even though many in the West, especially Europe, have gone out of their way to accommodate people displaced by the middle eastern Islamic civil war.
Searching for an equivalence argument is clutching at straws. There will arise vigilante groups who are fed up to the teeth with the actions of terrorists, and who feel let down by the authorities who cover up the truth. This of course is wrong and not to be encouraged, and is, as you imply, what the militants seek.
However, one alleged case doesn’t negate the daily cycle of atrocities perpetrated by militants.
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Nope. I’m not afraid of Muslims or Waleed.
Muslims however have more to fear in the west from right wing dickheads.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/09/alleged-rightwing-extremist-phillip-galea-to-face-court-on-terror-charges
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Islam:What are we afraid of?
The fewer the Muslims in your country , the less you have to be afraid of.
Try being a non-Mudlim in s country like Algeria.
The more Muslims in a country the more you have to be afraid.
That’s the simple answer to the question.,
A question that Bones and David can’t answer with any intellectual integrity.
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This article is a MUST read especially for Bones and Davo. Be great if Walleed read it too.
Puts Isis in context, shows the story of a modern day hero, and his work in TWENTY-EIGHT countries.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-convert-tortured-thrown-to-dogs-isis-is-not-the-problem-167391/
Read this and you’ll understand the situation, be inspired by a miracle, and see a man with a solution.
His solution was the same as mine.
I call in Bones to make a donation to this guys charity to make atonement for his swearing, attack of Christians and his unbelievable slander against our Jewish friends through the disgusting anti-Semitic rant he posted with the pathetic copy and pasting from and anti-Jewish website.
Hope my Muslim friends read this too.
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Islam:What are we afraid of?
More attacks on priests evidently… but Islam will never triumph.
A UK priest who converted from Islam to Christianity has warned that more clergy could be at risk of being targeted by jihadists following the killing of Father Jacques Hamel in Rouen, France, by extremists last month.
Mohammad Eghtedarian converted to Christianity from Islam when he sought asylum in the UK. He is now a curate at Liverpool Cathedral.
Iranian-born Rev Mohammad Eghtedarian told the Liverpool Echo that church workers “don’t have to be naive”.
“We can’t go out and pretend to be heroes,” he said. “The extremists can touch me. I know that. What happened in Normandy was awful and evil.”
However, Eghtedarian – who sought asylum in the UK after speaking out against the Basij militia in Iran – insisted that the risk of being attacked would not stop him from continuing his work as a priest.
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Islam:What are we afraid of? asks Wally, david and Bones.
The two Belgian police officers were stabbed in the face as the Islamic terrorist yelled Allau Akbar.
And today’s terrorists incident by one of Davo’s “few” Muslims who attacked in Pakistan today.
A suicide bomber has killed at least 70 people as they gathered to mourn a murdered journalist in Pakistan.
The devastating attack took place at a hospital in Quettain, in the violence-plagued southwestern province of Baluchistan.
The bomber struck as more than 100 grievers, mostly lawyers and journalists, crowded into the emergency department to accompany the body of a prominent lawyer, who had been shot and killed in the city earlier in the day.
The world has never seen anything like Islamic terrorism. Not just on one continent, but every continent. Many different countries. The reasons given range from the crusades, a video, a comic book, Israel, the West being in the middle East, a desire for a caliphate, ridding a country of infidels, being Catholic, being Buddhist, insulting the prophet, listening to rock music, drinking alcohol, watching soccer, on and on it goes.
What is in common. The Islamic terrorist will usually shout ALLAHU AKBAR and have no regard for women or children, or whether its a church, school or hospital.
And as always, even before the body count is over Muslims will be pleading for people to understand them and their religion of Peace.
“Islam:What are we afraid of?”
is the dumbest question in the world today,
Yes Davo, they’ll bomb Christians, atheists, Buddhists, and Muslims of another sect, basically blow anyone up.
Want me to give the list of countries again? Have you read the wikipedia list yet? Every week it gets bigger.
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Islam: What are we afraid of? Asked Wally, Davo, and Bundy Bones.
Todays tidbits
University of Tennessee
” Jordan Welsh, was accused of making anti-American statements while bragging about his assault weapons and posting a photo describing Hitler as “The Original Emo Kid.”
A sophomore with ties to the Muslim Students Association, Hesham Annamer, reportedly tweeted in 2014, “Hitler had a lot of great ideas. We need a guy like that in the white house.” A member of Students for Justice in Palestine named Mohamed Ali tweeted in 2012 that he’d written about Hitler for a class “cuz he’s a boss.”
Eyad Hijr, a graduate affiliated with the MSA, told one social media user in 2014, “I already hate you. You dirty filthy Jew. All your people do is f—– s— up. Wish hitler was still around to show you guys,” according to the report.
Meanwhile, the founder of SJP at the university, Amira Sakalla, referenced the First Intifada in a 2013 tweet and claimed it was “about time” for another Palestinian uprising, The Algemeiner added.”
Also, churches in the US having to hire security. Not just Catholic churches but churches for Syrian and Iraqi Christians. Man arrested for plotting to do a a terrrorist act against a church.
Jews on University campuses. people in churches, oh and not to mention all the rest. Hearing someone yelling Allah Akbar is completely different to hearing someone say Lord Buddha or a Buddhist chant
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So Wally Unplugged. Islam:What are we afraid of?
Afraid? Maybe wary and suspicious . But that’s bad isn’t it??
No it’s not.
People can’t even give money to world vision to help those poor Palestinians. Why? Because Mohammed el imanotherevilterrorist was using the money that people around the world were giving to buy bullets and build tunnels to kill Jews with.
Bones is shocked? Wazza can’t believe it?
Me? Not surprised one bit.
He’s just one more guy in a long line of Muslims crying out attacking Jews bleating about the poor Palestinians and taking money from liberals who don’t have a clue and using it for terrorism.
Idiot liberals gave Arafat millions – no billions too.
Remember Arafat you guys?
What a hero. Standing up for his people.
”
“Arafat for years would cry poor, saying, ‘I can’t pay the salaries, we’re gonna have a disaster here, the Palestinian economy is going to collapse,'” says Indyk. “And we would all mouth those words: ‘The Palestinian economy is going to collapse if we don’t do something about this.’ But at the same time, he’s accumulating hundreds of millions of dollars.”
Muslims always play the victim and get idiot western liberals to excuse their murderous behavior.
2000 people could be beheaded by Islamic terrorists tomorrow and Bones, Wazza and David would say it’s the West’s fault for the wars, or Israe, or or the crusades or a video or who knows?
Islam: Rich Muslins could solve Muslim poverty tomorrow. They won’t.
Instead they’ll get Bones and Wazza to feel guilty and send money that will be used to fund terrorism against Israel. Though liberals probably don’t even mind.
Here again is the hypocrisy
Groupsects could publish an article about a church bookkeeper in Indiana steeling cookie money to buy a trip to Florida and David will curse and swear and rave on insulting God, Jesus , the church worldwide. Bones will curse about Fundies.
This monumental scandal where a Muslims spent money not in poor kids but weapons??
,..,,….total silence until Bones and David start weeping saying we need more feel good stories about the poor misunderstand Muslims who will start being nice if we just give them more money and stop singing offensive Christmas carols in school and
Hey David. If you want some more nice Muslim stories check out how rich Arafat got. And how much the US has given to Muslims in charge of helping Palestinians and see what the money has been used for.
Fools!
So yeah. This article criticizing a Christisn organization . Good one. Just shows his dumb the liberal section of Christianity is.
Criticizing Israel, getting money and then using it for terrorism.
Hopefully this guy will become a Christian in jail.
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“Islam:What are we afraid of”
Okay here’s two more things that might make some afraid. Others just disgusted and angry.,
1.
New estimates suggest that over 1,400 yazidi children are being held by the Islamic State and are being trained to be jihadi fighters or trained to carry out suicide attacks.
2. Some guy named Mohammed (yeah really) infiltrated World Vision 12 years ago and diverted funds to Hamas. Hamas didn’t use the money for schoolbooks either. No- weapons for the Hamas boys. World vision…..
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Today’s answer to the
“Islam: What are we afraid of!” question below.
The assailant, who reportedly shouted “Allahu Akhbar,” the Arabic phrase meaning “God is great”, was shot by a third officer and later died of his inuries.
Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel said the attacker’s identity and motive were not immediately known, but “first indications” suggested the attack was terror-related.
“Thoughts are with the victims, their relatives and police officers,” Michel posted on Twitter. The prime minister broke off his vacation in the south of France and was returning to Belgium for an emergency meeting of the government’s National Security Council on Sunday.
Sky News reported that one of the wounded officers suffered “moderate” injuries to her face, while the other was less seriously injured.
Michel told RTL television in an interview that he has also asked the independent OCAM agency to immediately assess whether there is an increased threat to Belgian internal security. Belgium has been on high alert in the wake of the March 22 suicide bombings claimed by the Islamic State extremist group that killed 32 people in Brussels.
And the responses?
Bones: F¥@&, Retsrd F&@ F& Jews and Christians are worse. Ian Roberts is tough and sexy. Anyway, what difference does it make -Walleed won a gold logie. The police can rest and watch him on tv and realize Islam is cool.
David: I only read feel-good Muslim stories and bad Christian stories. A Lutheran Sunday school teacher stole a library book in Vancouver. I see nothing, I know nothing.
Wazza: it’s mental illness . Yeah there are lots of mental Mudlim terrorists these days. If the west just gives every Muslim a high paying job and free mental health care we’ll be okay.
Groupsects: ………….
(Too busy scouring YouTube for a westboro Baptist type quote)
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Hey David.
You suggest “nice” stories about Islam.
Okay, you win. I’ll acquiesce.
Here’s some great news about Islam. This will make both you and Bones rejoice.
Studies estimate significantly more people have converted from Islam to Christianity in the 21st century than at any other point in Islamic history.[8] Conversion into Christianity have also been well documented, and reports estimate that hundreds of thousands of Muslims convert to Christianity annually, significant numbers of Muslims converts to Christianity can be found in Afghanistan, Albania,[9] Azerbaijan,[10][11] Algeria,[12] Belgium,[13] Bulgaria,[14][15] France,[16] Germany,[17] Indonesia,[18] Iran,[19][20][21][22] Kazakhstan,[23] Kyrgyzstan,[24] Malaysia,[25] Morocco,[26][27] Netherlands,[28] Russia,[29] Saudi Arabia,[30] Tunisia,[31] Turkey,[32][33][34][35] Kosovo,[36] The United States[37] and Central Asia etc.[38][39] Many of the Muslims who converts to Christianity faces social rejection or imprisonment and sometimes murder or penalty, for becoming Christians.[40]
So, while Bones thinks Muslims are angry and murder people all over the world because of western invasion, they’re actually converting!!! Lol
And while many Muslims are killing Christians , Muslims just keep becoming Christians! Wow!
How ironic. Bones and David don’t want to talk about how bad Islam is and vent their hatred against Christians …. But many Muslims see it differently and are becoming Christians.
So… imagine how many more millions would convert if they didn’t have to face Persecution from their fellow religionists of peace.
So I have to change. The more you guys bash Hillsong the more successful and bigger they are.
And the more you attack Christians and appeal for understanding of Islam the more Muslims convert to Christianity.
So, go ahead with your hate campaign. You’re losing!
Lol
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Sad, but how do you answer these guys. THey’re right. Bones and people like him don’t care. Too busy bashing Christians in the west.
Christians persecuted by Islamic State in the Middle East believe the world has forgotten them, but remain convinced that God is near, an Iraqi bishop has said.
Speaking to East County Magazine, Bishop Mar Shlemon Warduni, who has been working in San Diego but before that served in Baghdad, said: “our people are suffering too much”.
“Nobody loves them, nobody takes care of them,” he added. “The children, the young people, they have no future. They finish studying and they have no job. Always, we cry, all over the world, for those children.”
Hundreds of thousands of Christians have fled the Middle East since the rise of ISIS, though some have remained behind. Both groups “sometimes… feel that nobody cares for us,” the bishop said.
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Hey Bones,
Not retarded – but unlike Walleed, I am afraid. All we can do is step up policing and keep spending money to catch the Muslims before they blow more people up. So, Singaporeans now?? They getting attacked because they went and fought overseas? No. Bones, Why were Islamic terrorists going to murder Singaporeans? OH you didn’t see the news? TO busy ordering another Ian ROberts poster? Scouring the web for c oil shots of Walleed?? Lol
Okay here*s the news so you can get out of the anti-Semite websites.
INDONESIAN police have arrested six suspected militants over a plot to fire a rocket at an up-market Singapore waterfront district from a nearby island, prompting the city-state to tighten security.
The men, aged between 19 and 46, were detained by elite anti-terror police on the Indonesian island of Batam, which lies just south of the affluent city-state, on Friday.
The alleged leader of the Indonesian group is accused of planning the attack with a leading Indonesian militant who is now believed to be fighting with Islamic State in Syria.
It was the latest terror plot in the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country, where there has been a surge in attacks and attempted attacks this year due to the growing influence of IS.
The pair “planned a terror attack in Singapore. They wanted to attack Singapore with a rocket from Batam,” national police spokesman Agus Rianto told reporters.
Police said the target was Marina Bay, a district that is home to Marina Bay Sands, a luxury complex that includes shopping malls, hotels and a casino.
SO Davo. LIke you said….nothing to worry about. Only a few naughty Muslims. But by George they really punch above their weight don’t they.
all I can say is, THANK you INdonesiand police, and David – face reality!
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““F#ck me q’s gone full on retarded against Muslims.”
eh. its a thread about how we have nothing to fear from Muslims.
I was refuting Waleed. If its really true that people have nothing to fear from Muslims in Australia then please tell that to ASIO and the police.
Know anyone in ASIO Bones? Anyone assigned to protect Australia from Islamic terrorism?
I thought not.
Anyway, not sure how many mosques you have there in Bundaberg, but please, by all means go there and swear at them like you do at Christians.
go on big boy…
lol
Take David your new tough guy friend and swear at the Muslims and make fun of their beliefs.
Guess what. You won’t do it….
And you know why??
I do.
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Bones. You are just way out of your league. stick to bullying your Bundaberg primary school kids. The F word and insults would probably intimidate them. Not me mate lol Yeah, and you could probably copy and paste from the anti-semitic website and they’d be impressed.
lol
Which of course is why some people who can’t make it decide to teach.
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“F#ck me q’s gone full on retarded against Muslims.”
I always know when Bones is beaten and has no answer. He starts with the swearing and insults. Not retarded. The question is “Islam:What are we afraid of?” And I’m saying I could go on and on about what Filipinos, Indonesians, Americans, Australians, Nigerians, Kenyans, Somali’s, Israelis, English, Germans, French, Dutch, Japanese etc etc etc oh yes and the wives of that Israeli Olympic weightlifting team are worried about Islamic terrorism.
“Send the Muslim haters over to the Middle East and let them and ISIS kill each other off.”
I don’t hate Muslims. How many Muslims friends have you had. I’ve had several. Best is to send you over to live in a Muslim country. And you can be free to tell them to F off before they cut your head off. Which Muslim country would YOU choose to live in Bones? lol
“I mean two invasions have worked a f#cking treat.”
I was not in favor of any invasion. Why do you swear so much Bones? You do that at home? IN school?
“I see Waleed gives q the same reaction as Ian Roberts does.”
Bones. As usual you are wrong. I didn’t know who the guy was. But I’m answering his question and asked David to read the Wikipedia list of Islamic terrorism. He hasn’t read it. Bones, which religion are police in Australia, the US, England worried about? It isn’t Buddhism.
ANd….i have no feelings for Walleed. I suspect you have lots of feelings for Ian Roberts though lol
You kept talking on and on about him fantasising about his muscly body beating mine…..You are either sick or homosexual/ lol Just come out.
anyway, Ian Roberts now would have no chance against me. I’d outweigh him and outmuscle him .
If you like I’ll send you a photo of me shirtless to drool over Bones.
“Causes him to froth at the mouth.”
NO not at all. Just laughing. Laughing at your Ian Roberts worship….
And Bones. Stop frothing and swearing…lol
Settle down Mate.
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Sorry Wazza. I mean Sorry Wazza. lol
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“Sorry Q, it was mental illness not Islam. But there is no reason to start worrying about all the people with mental illness suddenly buying knives and stabbing you.”
Wazza, I have been talking about all the Islamic terrorism in MANY different countries . Its not all mental illness. You know that.
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F#ck me q’s gone full on retarded against Muslims.
Send the Muslim haters over to the Middle East and let them and ISIS kill each other off.
I mean two invasions have worked a f#cking treat.
I see Waleed gives q the same reaction as Ian Roberts does.
Causes him to froth at the mouth.
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Sorry Q, it was mental illness not Islam. But there is no reason to start worrying about all the people with mental illness suddenly buying knives and stabbing you. Should we consult tourist’s medical records and stop them coming in if they are on anti-depressants. Should we demand that the leaders of the mentally ill come out and condemn this attack? No, the vast majority of people with mental illness are not homicidal maniacs.
This has been a community service announcement on behalf of mentaily ill people everywhere.
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Okay, I’ll just keep posting heR answering the question in the video.
ISLAM:WHAT ARE WE AFRAID OF!
Today’s answer.
First an American transit security officer was arrested for helping Isis. Scary
Second, Muslims at it again stabbing random tourists on the streets of London. Not scary enough Wally and David?
David. I know you’re a REALLY tough guy who can swear and all….. But you even you might get scared just a little if the woman next to you was killed by some guy yelling praise to Alkah and then out a knife into your head?
No,..
Nothing to be afraid of?
Right – more likely do die of a heart attack. I see.
Davo, please go live among the Muslims and swear and mock their religion using all that manly courage.
Oh , maybe you can outdo Alethia in leading people to Christ???
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David. Cool it with the anti-Christian hate and bad language.
I’ll just answer it with the news of the latest terrorist attack by a Muslim yelling Allahu Akbar or whatever they like saying.
Oh and be careful. Isis just published why they hate the west. They hate liberal atheist sodomites for one.
Should you be feeling worried?
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Maybe it’s because David the Coward knows that you can insult Christians but not Muslims?
“In 2010, law enforcement interviewed Young because of his links to Zachary Chesser, who eventually pleaded guilty to trying to join the militant group al-Shabab and to issuing threats to the makers of the “South Park” cartoon series after they penned an episode he found insulting to Islam.
Young also met regularly with Amine El Khalifi, who pleaded guilty in a sting operation in which he planned to attempt a suicide bombing at the US Capitol in 2012.
In 2014, Young met about 20 times with an FBI informant, and Young gave the source advice on how to avoid detection as he purportedly planned to travel overseas to join the Islamic State. Young frequently advised to source to watch out for informants.
While Young’s arrest is a first for a US law enforcement officer, he is one of more than a half-dozen individuals from northern Virginia alone who have been charged with terror-related crimes, mostly in government sting operations. The FBI says it has ongoing investigations in all 50 states.”
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Hey Davo!!!
Here’s a feel-good Muslim story for ya.
One of your mates involved?
According to reports, a gang of Muslim migrants in Paris allegedly ambushed and burned down a passenger bus in the Saint-Denis district around 1 AM on the night of Thursday, the 28th of July 2016.
The masked men set up a road block, threatened the bus driver, smashed the windows and set it the bus on fire.
bus firebomb paris
Saint Denis has a large immigrant population.
The passengers escaped before one of the men screamed “Allahu Akbar” as he thew a Molotov Cocktail into the driver’s side, causing a loud explosion. The bus burnt down to a metal hull.
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David. What on earth are you worried about who is leading how many people to Christ?
What on earth has that got to do with how much you hate Christianity and Christians and love abusing them while ignoring constant Islamic terrorism and begging for positive Muslim stories thereby humiliating yourself with your cowardly hypocrisy?
I don’t get it. Seriously.
Christians get it. You hate them and are exercising your right to hate-speech. You hate God or the concept of God and feel the need to attack his character while using bad language. We also get that you discriminate between religions because you get very emotional if the history of viscous Muslim terrorist stacks is mentioned.
So…. You hate Christians and salivate at the chance of abusing them. But you defend Islam.
That’s totally inconsistent
Unless….. You were once Christian and are now a Muslim?
So, do you think it’s right for your Muslim brethren to rape and murder in some countries and discriminate against Christians in others?
Are you in favor of bringing in Sharia Law?
What are your thoughts on it?
Or am I wrong? You are an atheist right?
Do you frequent Muslim sites and insult them too ？
Swear at them ?
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Q I’d really like you to contact me off line. greg[dot]colby[@]yarntree[dot]com[dot]au
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Wazza.
True.
And none of us really know what God is saying.
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David, it’s cool but I like this version better
Q, I agree that putting Billy Graham in there is out of place, and there are a lot of good Christians doing great work. Where I agree with the singer is that people can side-step responsibility for their words and actions by saying that it is what God said. The only thing worse than a selfish bigot is a selfish bigot who think’s he’s holier than thou.
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David,
Alethia said to tell you that he hasn’t won as many to the Lord as he liked. But then he lost his faith and isn’t a Christian anymore probably.
But that he doesn’t understand why you are asking your question.
But he still knows many find Christiand and can’t understand why David will swear and blaspheme against the Christian Gof and try to offend Christians and hate them but gets so offended when the weekly Muslim atrocities are pointed out.
He thinks David is s hypocrite who can’t use facts or logic. And who still hasn’t read up on the Islamic atrocities . He asks if you’ve read much about the Munich Olympics. And says that using the F word doesn’t impress him. That if David wants to prove his toughness he should go swear and blaspheme in front of a mosque . But he knows that the coward David is too scared and only picks on the weak or people who won’t fight back .
Goodbye
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Good music and the video is well done.
But I object to putting clips of Billy Graham and other scenes with those of the holocaust and Jim jones.
To me God is not a delusion and there are millions of people doing great things in the name of God.
There are terrible fathers, scientists and charity workers. I still believe in the good of many fathers, scientists and charity workers .
That’s about it. Yes. There is evil all around us.
Let’s work for good.
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Hey wazza2, using your musical expertise what is your opinion of this piece?
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Question to alethiaseeker@hotmail.com:
How many people have you led to Christ, month to date, year to date and in the last ten years? What are your projections for the next 5 years?
This person, so easily offended on behalf of God, will most likely not respond. Because I think the answer is: fuck all.
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Cheers Q, what do you think of this video? – you know a bit about music. What he says about Christianity also applies to the far more dangerous state-secularism religion.
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Sensible post Wazza. Totally disagree with you.
But you’re always consistent and original.
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They have a point. Obama is a war criminal too… The drone killings are a form of terrorism where the US reserves the right to kill anyone they think might be a threat to their interests.
If ISIS had drones and did that in Australia we would be appalled.
The best thing that the US could do in the fight against terrorism is to stop doing it themselves.
Yeah the peace prize is ridiculous… but he got it mainly for not being Bush.
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By the way, David and Wazza.
Muslims recently when they be head and shoot people aren’t doing it because of Trump or Hillsong it a guy like me. They say they’re doing it because of what America is doing now.
Yes – Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama.
Bombing in Syria. Now starting bombing in Libya.
Constant drone attacks.
That’s Peace Prize winner Barack Obama. Bombing Muslims constantly . Ask the Islamic terrorists who recently are killing in Eurooe. They say THATS their beef.
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Have a blessed day David.
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Okay David. I give up.
Your news about Trump I had no idea as to the relevance.
But maybe it a nice story about Christians?
I read it. Pretty funny.
You missed my point and aren’t interested in serious debate.
Fair enough.
I’ll go back to joking.
Didn’t read the one about Pakistan but there’s another feel good story from France.
French Muslims have gone to Catholic Churches to attend mass as a way of showing solidarity and condemning the recent terror attacks.
I applaud them.
Just hope they didn’t request the priests to not mention Jesus.
If they refrained from that nonsense I applaud them.
Now let’s get everyone in the Muslim world inside.
It starts with the Imams.
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A medical treatment for Q.
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For those unaware the good news about Trump accepting Christ
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660395/Has-Trump-God-Prominent-evangelical-met-Donald-says-sure-billionaire-baby-Christian.html
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Donald Trump, recently found Christ, didn’t he Q. Here’s a story about the resulting fruits of the Spirit.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election/donald-trump-digs-a-hole-for-himself-with-attacks-on-muslim-heros-parents-20160801-gqi1fw.html
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Groupsects.
Can you delete that email address. Got mixed up again and it isn’t valid anyway
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do all you can come up with is a good Muslim story.
Not Christian.
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Muslims help rebuild Christian church in Pakistan
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/muslims.raise.funds.and.help.rebuild.christian.church.in.pakistan/88078.htm
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Ok here is my first contribution
What Nietzsche meant when he said God is dead
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/what-nietzsche-meant-when-he-said-god-is-dead
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“Ok so you don’t want to hate then, Q. Why not some postings of Muslim good news stories?”You could start an epidemic of good will.
David. I call on you to start posting good news stories about Christians.
You should start first because you are the one who has been spreading hate against Christians on this website and insulting and blaspheming.
We need some goodwill.
A month of nice stories about the good that Catholics and Protestants and Evangelicals are doing and the lives changed, and then I will start with the nice Muslim stories.
Start today David. And not more insulting, bad language and blaspheming. It’s insulting to Christians.
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“At its core, freedom of religion or belief requires freedom of expression. Both fundamental rights are protected in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, yet nearly half of all countries penalize blasphemy, apostasy or defamation of religion. In 13 countries, atheists can be put to death for their lack of belief.”
How many of the half in the world where David isn’t allowed to blaspheme are Muslim and how many are Christian.
If you don’t know David you aren’t qualified to discuss Islam because you have no idea what you’re talking about.
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David???
Rotfl!!!!
You don’t realize the irony of your idiotic suggestion????
You are commenting on a website attacking Christian churches, leaders and even lay people.
Even a thief gets a mention here.
And you are right there to sink the boot in.
There are no articles here about the charity work done all over the world by Christians. But about feeing the poor, the hospitals, the orphanages – unless Groupsects can find something sinister in there.
Even when he can’t find anything he’ll make it up!
So a Muslim shouting Allah Akbur who murders 50?
Groupsects goes after a Christian church when they’re praying for their community?
A preacher goes to pray for and encourage police in Ferguson recently. He praises the group which are now led by a fantastic black police officer.
Groupsects attacks by posting an old 2 yr old rant!!
(The content of which we now know is flawed anyway)?
The negative articles about Christians is relentless.
Across denominations.
There are no articles here about people whose lives are better because of ANY denomination.
Find one or two dissenters out of thousands and it will be here. And you are here to add your mocking and blaspheming.
So what do I do?
I say hey guys aren’t you missing the elephant in the room? You’ll attack Benny Hinn for encouraging police officers in a community trying to heal wounds, and Pauls White for praying so I point out that these guys are NOT doing anything wrong or if you say they are – is it on the level of the rapes, beheadings , killings and torture?
Marathon – two Muslims blow people to bits.
Fireworks – a Muslim runs over 80
School – Muslims blow it up
Christmas – Muslims torch churches and rape women in the streets.
Country after country , time and time again.
David doesn’t mock them . Would never dream of blaspheming or saying anything to offend.
No – he wants a positive Muslim story!!
You know what that makes you David?
A complete hypocrite!
Really. A hypocrite and a coward.
Just completely inconsistent.
Tomorrow you would think nothing of making fun of Christians or Christian beliefs. And you still live okay.
But someone does the same about Islam and all hell breaks loose. Fatwahs, assassinations, tens of thousands in demonstrations, embassies attacked.
You’re a coward David.
I used to think Bones was the ultimate inept hypocrite -esp after he quoted the most obnoxious lies here misrepresenting Jewish beliefs from a completely evil anti-Semitic website.
If his name and Bundaberg school were published it would make the front page. Many would want him fired.
But now I think you’re worse than him.
You’re a Chrustian-hater on an anti-Christian hate site regularly blaspheming and insulting Christian beliefs. When challenged you want people to realize Muslims are nice and want nice articles??
Post some nice articles about Christians Dave.
Every day Christians are being persecuted in the world. Beaten, raped, imprisoned.
David’s response. Insult Chrustians and make fun of their beliefs. Muslims murder and you call for understanding and nice articles.
Complete hypocrisy. And like I said – cowardice.
By the way.
“Syrian refugee, 21, hacks PREGNANT woman to death with machete and injures two others before hero BMW driver runs him over in yet another attack in Germany”
You’ll think anyone who posts that is a hater.
But Groupsects will do an article about a preacher this week who dies so much as preach a sermon he doesn’t agree with. And you’ll rejoice.
In the next week you and I both know that somewhere someone shouting Allahu Akbur will kill or maim. You call for understanding. In the same week, millions of Christians will be involved in sacrificial volunteer work – many of them caring for Muslims. No praise from you. No, you’ll write something offensive to the medical missionary, the volounteers nurse , the career.,
Pathetic. And you still have t read the Wikipedia list of atrocities.
This Olympics you’ll be sinking the boot into churches. And the widows of the Israeli athletes murdered in Munich by fantastical Muslims will still be grieving.
You and Bones. A pair of hypocrites.
You even turn on Greg insinuating his beliefs are because of his job??
Slandering cowardly hypocrites.
It would be different if you were both 14.
Bones said “What a waste of a life” when a man dies who didn’t kill anyone but has a differrnt theology.
Sorry, I don’t see how lampooning Chrustians and quoting lies about Jews from anti semiotic websites full of vile is taking waste of a life.
Turn your life around David. Show the same respect and concern for Christians that you do for Muslims.
Otherwise you are not only a hypocrite and a coward but also guilty of racial discrimination.
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Ok so you don’t want to hate then, Q. Why not some postings of Muslim good news stories?
You could start an epidemic of good will.
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No David I don’t hate Muslims.
But I’m tired of hearing news about them killing people.
And they always seem to feel justified, whether it’s because of something in Nigeria or Kenya or Bangladesh or Bali or Indonesia, or Syria, or the Philippines or England or France .
Their reasons change. Their methods remain the same or get worse.
These Olympics I remember as a kid watching the Munich massacre. Those Mudlims felt justified too.
Like the victims of Islamic terrorism who grieve today, the wives of the tortured Israeli athletes feel pain to this day.
Palestinian terrorists who killed Israeli Olympians at the 1972 Games beat and tortured the victims and even castrated one of the hostages while his teammates watched.
The horrifying new details of the cruelty the 11 athletes went through have been revealed by Ankie Spitzer and Illna Romano, the widows of two men who were slain in the massacre.
Documents and photographs after the deadly attack on the Olympic Village, which went on for 20 hours, were initially covered up by German police.
So, tomorrow Grouspects will post some article about a Christian thief and David and Bones will insult and abuse Christians and possibly blaspheme.
And think they are funny and justified.
1972. Horrific. The widows want the whole story known. Read about their story Bones and David.
Cartoons? Videos? Things happening a world away?
These things can enrage thousands of Muslims.
Bones. I call on you to organize a march against Islamic terrorism there in Bundaberg.
Gather the peaceful Muslims and together call for Imams to stop preaching hate and for ALL Muslims in Australia to denounce Muslim violence against others
Don’t waster your life!
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I don’t hate Muslims.
Tell your Muslim friends to tell their Imams to stop encouraging violence. And to work to stop their Muslim brethren from killing people in so many different countries and in so many different ways.
And maybe ask them to consider Sufiism ?
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David. I don’t hate Muslims. I’ll have lunch with some today probably. I’ve been invited to the house of one and often talked with him.
I presented a list of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.
I’m concerned with the shooting, bombing, raping, slashing, beheading, burning of churches and homes, running over in trucks etc etc that has continued unabated by Muslims telling Allahu Akbar.
It needs to stop.
It’s destroying civilization and effects you everyone you go to an airport. It happened before sept 11 and after. It’s happened in Europe, Australia, Africa, Asia.
And the rights of non-Muslims in Muslim run countries are severely curtailed.
None of the above can be argued with if you have access to the Internet , a library or newspapers.
I have no problem with peace-loving Muslims who respect the rights of others.
We have a huge problem in the world.
And in your country .
If police stopped their intelligence gathering in Australia tomorrow there will be another terrorist attack carried out by Muslims. It won’t be by Hillsongers, Lutherans of Irish Catholic nuns.
I am for peace.
And I call upon Muslim leaders to preach peace.
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“But stop the anti-Christian hate”
Should you also stop the anti-Muslim hate, Q?
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“Q why do you care what happens in backwardstan
Ok you obviously haven’t read my posts – nor the Wikipedia article. And you don’t watch the news.
I care about Australia, western countries, the future of civilization.
And yes I do care what happens in the countries you insulted. Chrustians are murdered there and women are stoned and often prevented from getting education.
There’s this feisty 12yr old girl ….
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“The ones who should be afraid of Muslim extremists are Muslims….That’s who most of their victims are.”
Tell that to law enforcement in Australia, France, Britain, Germany, Belgium, Indonesia, Japan.
Then tell them you are a teacher from Bundaberg and you would like to stTe that publicly.
“Muslim extremists share much in common with their retarded Christian fundamentalist allies.”
That’s a horrible thing to say. Retarded?? And you’re talking about hate?
What is a Christian fundamentalist? Okay bones. Bring out the facts. Bombings, beheadings , shootings this year by Fundamentalist Christians.
There is nothing in common.
Bones . Go to your local mosque call them retarded and make jokes about their religion with David.
The. Do the same outside a fundamentalist church.
Come in brave boy. Prove your statement! Lol
“They both hate gays, ”
Wrong. I know hundreds of Christians who are against gay marriage and they don’t hate gays.
“they both hate liberal values and secularism”
They are really opposed to it yes. Values that are against their interpretation of the bible.
, “they both hate the liberal members of their religion…..”
Not at all
“They are the true enemies of humanity.”
So now evangelicals are the true enemies of humanity?
Okay Bones. Man up. Go public with that. Tell your church. Bully Graham, Mother Theresa? Rick Warren?
NT Wright?
If you are meaning not evangelicals but people completely out there like westboro church then I’d say you don’t have to worry. And as obnoxious as they are you could walk right up to them and have nothing to fear.
Bones, calm down.
But stop the anti-Christian hate
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Q why do you care what happens in Backwardstan?
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Actually I’m not afraid….
The ones who should be afraid of Muslim extremists are Muslims….
That’s who most of their victims are.
Muslim extremists share much in common with their retarded Christian fundamentalist allies.
They both hate gays, they both hate liberal values and secularism, they both hate the liberal members of their religion…..
They are the true enemies of humanity.
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Walleed asks if we are afraid??
Everyone is afraid.
Bangladeshi who was a former associate professor at a Japanese university is suspected of helping two extremists travel to Turkey via Japan last year, it was learned Friday.
Local police suspect the two used Japan as a stopping point on their way to an area of Syria controlled by the Islamic State militant group.
Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki, who was born in Bangladesh and taught at Ritsumeikan University in Kyoto Prefecture, is suspected of supporting the entry into Japan of the two Bangladeshis by passing them off as students. After staying in Japan for a short time, they departed for Turkey, and then apparently travelled overland to Syria.
The police in May last year began investigating Ozaki for any suspected involvement in an attack by an Islamic extremist group that month. He was suspected of providing funds to the group.
Ozaki has been missing since he left Japan last year for Bulgaria with his family, the sources said. His wife is Japanese. Although born into a Hindu family, he converted to Islam around 2008.
Islamic State claimed responsibility for the terrorist attack on a restaurant in Dhaka earlier this month that left 20 hostages, including seven Japanese, dead.
The New York Times reported that three people, including Ozaki, “acted as contact points between militants inside Bangladesh and organizers outside the country.”
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Here just in case anyone is interested, and I realize nobody is – is my final word on the Muslim problem, after all the reading I’ve done.
If there is one major cause and thus one major solution it’s the problem of leadership within Islam.
Most Muslims aren’t terrorists. I agree. Pro-Islamic websites proudly claim that 93% of Muslims don’t support extremism and terrorism.
To a Muslim and David, that’s great.,
To me and others killed by terrorists that SEVEN PERCENT becomes hundreds, or thousands or millions depending on the region.
How to you change that 7% figure?
The best way is obviously by Muslims solving it.
There are different branches within Islam – obviously an Ali the boxer Muslim is different to the guys cutting off heads.
Democratic western countries by nature and definition can not indefinitely ban immigration by religion.
Given the terrible situation we are faced with I believe each nation in order to protect its citizens – whether Muslim, Buddhist or atheist, has the right and duty to restrict types of immigrants based on religion or country of origin temporarily if their intent can not be fully determined.
How Isis or one particular group can be defeated is no easy question. I haven’t heard of any great ideas yet.
But we obviously have a problem with radicalization of Muslims currently living in western countries.
And the cause is said by some to be education, poverty, discrimination etc etc.
But – Muslims who have engaged in terrorism, have included many with jobs, money education and opportunities . And if they are concerned with Muslim poverty they aren’t helping.
The answer isn’t solving the Palestinian problem or a specific case of the west interfering in one country either – because there is Muslim terrorism going on in countries totally unrelated.
But if the terrorists in Indonesia or the Philippines are killing in support of what’s going on in Palestine or Iraq then we have an eternal problem with Muslims – because if religious people kill people in other countries because their fellow adherents in another country are deemed to be persecuted, every country in the world will erupt in violence.
Problems between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland didn’t progress to where churches were bombed all over the world or global aril one security had to change for decades.,
So – the answer?
Walleed, David, Bones, Grousects and Muslims all over the world need to shut down, reeducate or if possible get rid of the Muslim leaders who teach anything less than complete peaceful co-existence and respect for the laws and differing culture of the countries they live in.
Muslims need to never be encouraged to violence. And they should NEVER be told that violence committed is “understandable” because of something happening in another country.
The problem is not the old Aussie grandma who is scared when she turns on the tv or the Vietnamese student who just wants to graduate or the French Sufi watching fireworks obviously.
But the onus is not on the French, Vietnamese or Aussie to apologize for crusades, Bush, Israel, pork sandwiches or singing Silent Night at kindy.
Muslims need to sort themselves out.
If there can be mass gatherings for gays, why not millions of peaceful Muslims on the streets protesting not against whites, or persecution against themselves – but rather saying they won’t give up until the Imams stop encouraging radicalization and violence , and that they stand with and for the wider community in which they live.
But until they do that, people will be naturally afraid and reticent to bring in more of a group of which seven percent (that’s what Muslims themselves say!)
sympathize with extremism and terrorism.
93% isn’t good enough Walleed and David.,
If 7% of Baptists were sympathetic to car bombings and beheadings id be calling in Baptists and Christians to solve it, and I’d totally understand if Thailand or Japan were weary of Christians.
Finally – the 93% figure was from a Muslim website.
If some jackass wants to argue that, I would say the same if it were 98%.,
No liberals are running to go live in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. Muslim countries are the places people run from in order to live in freedom in the West.
We in the west need to protect our way of life .
Simple .
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Walleed asks “Islam. What are we afraid of?”
That’s the dumbest question I’ve heard in a long time.
Read and listen Walleed. Then you’ll know.
Or go live in a country full of Muslims.
You won’t be asking such a stupid question anymore.
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Re letting in more Muslim refugees.
(Oh and remember it’s well known now that Muslims are attacking Christians in refugee camps forcing them to flee)
CIA Director John Brennan testified before Congress that Isis is already preparing more attacks, including by infiltrating refugees into western nations.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said it’s a huge concern of the agency that Isis is infiltrating operatives among refugees.
FBI director James Comey said during a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday that the federal government does not have the ability to conduct thorough background checks on all of the Syrian refugees.
One more for good measure. This one’s funny!
Malik Obama, the Muslim half-brother of Barak said a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US was “common sense”.
The majority of Americans now agree with a temporary halt to Muslim immigration.
And some Muslims do too!
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“Islam is a religion of peace” has equivalent truth value to “Christianity is a religion of salvation”.
Many people who are mourning the deaths of loved ones or who are themselves in hospital at this moment may not be interested in salvation or which religion is right. They just want your small section of the Muslim world to stop killing and raping.
Call the religion what you want and argue and make pithy comments. Ive supplied you with facts .
So David, did you go through the Islamic terror list?!
Meanwhile Groupsects is posting about a fire two years ago – not by someone justifying murder or shouting Jesus is Lord..
It’s totally different. David you continually insult and attack Christians. Grow some balls and do it to Muslims. You never will.
Come back with facts
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“You’re pretty desperate when you have to quote Fox News to prove how much you hate people.”
Don’t hate anyone. You’re desperate if that’s all you got! Lol
I quote Fox News, Wikipedia, CNN, BBC.
Facts are facts.
I don’t quote from anti-Semitic websites .
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“Islam is a religion of peace” has equivalent truth value to “Christianity is a religion of salvation”.
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You’re pretty desperate when you have to quote Fox News to prove how much you hate people.
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“In the last 2 months… outside of Iraq & Syria… there’s been a jihadi attack every 83 hours.”
Where’d David go? Hanging out with all his peaceful friends?
Every 83 hours?
That can’t be right! Islam is a religion of peace!
Anyway, even if it is every 83 hours and even though Police forces all over the world are trying to prevent planned and line sold attacks and thousands of people are in hospital beds trying to get better after being shot, bombed and run over David and Waleed can put a big smile on their faces and feel so relaxed because the number of Muslims who are violent is really so small you don’t have to think about it.
Just not sure why those guys at the airport are fussing around so much!
Take it easy guys. Don’t you watch weally cweber talks by gold logie winners or read the comments by the intellectuals on Groupsects?
Nothing to worry about. Move along. Is get just ignore Isis they’ll soon get bored and all the rest of the jihadis will start playing Pokemon Go while listening to Cat Stevens on their iPods.
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Greg and Bones,
Just got back.
I listened to 5 minutes of Waleed. I understand his point. But he’s wrong.
Will you do this for me?
Read the history of the spread of Islam / the life of Muhammed. Wikipedia or any source is okay.
Then read the list of Islamic terrorist attacks on Wikipedia or any other source.
I’m actually not interested in Isis. You’ve missed my point – completely.
I’m saying the same thing that I said before I heard of Isis. And your friend Bin Laden.
Don’t argue with me until you’ve actually read the attacks in India, Nigeria, Kenya, Somalia, Israel, Indonesia, the Philippines – all of these nothing to do with Isis. We will defeat Isis.
But in ten years after Isis has gone, wherever there are Muslims in control of a country human rights will be devalued. You couldn’t live the way you are there.
Secondly any country that has sizeable Muslim populations will have continuing cases of Muslims killing others.
I agree. The bombings of churches and raping in the streets in Indonesia had nothing to do with Isis. Kenya, Nigeria, Pakistan , India – the Muslims who shot and bombed there weren’t interested in a caliphate in Syria.
The Muslim immigrants who rape women in Sweden are not connected with Isis or Bin Ladin.
Muslims living in Australia should respect the laws of Australia and enjoy freedom here. As a foreigner I respect the laws of the country I’m living in and I don’t kill, rape, behead because of the sufferings of Christians in another country,
For years I’ve read the bad things people do on this website. I totally condemn the theft or sexual molestations carried out by any Christian minister .
And so do all Christians.
The difference with Muslims?
A young man in France whose mother is a professor and sibling a doctor will go into a church in a small town in France where they allowed a mosque to be built. He’ll slash to death an 86 year old innocent priest. And video it and send it to the world .
And guess what statistically we know that at the very very least, tens of thousands of Muslims in various countries will either rejoice or have sympathy.
That is a just a fact. And I’m being conservative. Worldwide, probably s million Muslims would see that video of a French priest getting killed and feel that it is somewhat justified.
Waleed wouldn’t. But he isn’t the problem.
By all means Waleed, go and educate Muslims worldwide and stop them from doing this.
It is completely wrong and selfish to tell Asian Buddhists and atheists and Taoists that THEY must understand Muslims feelings.
You see no Asian countries want any more Muslim immigration either!
The countries letting in more Muslim immigrants are mostly post-Christian western countries run by liberals.
Look up the lists of bombings, shootings, raping and crime committed by Muslim immigrants in France, Germany and Sweden.
All I’m doing is stating facts.
And not including the terror that has been stopped by law enforcement and intelligence agencies,
So…when you’ve read the list of Islamic terrorist activities by groups, lone wolves, random packs of Muslim thugs around the world since the 80,s
then refute.
Saying someone is a poster boy for Isis isn’t good enough.
Facts and logic and common sense please.
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‘Islamophobe’? How dumb. I don’t fear Islam at all. Why would I?
Shariah is everywhere. I bet you know more Arabic than you did five years ago. They’re training you. You can even define shariah for us. I guarantee you can list a whole bunch of haram stuff. Dhimmi.
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Also you have no understanding of what ‘sharia’ is.
That’s the problem the Left has with you types.
Your knowledge is based on ignorance and bigotry as we can see from your comments about Waleed.
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Too bad for you Gordon but Waleed is spot on.
In fact it was Bin Laden’s dream to start a war with the West and Islam and has been one of the goals of ISIS.
Every Q and Islamophobe like yourself buys into ISIS’s narrative.
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Waleed is, whether you like it or not, an apologist for Islam, which is fine if he wants to issue forth his opinion, but a counterbalance should be allowed because he seems to want to blame the root cause of terror on the victims rather than the perpetrators, and that is what makes people like Q nervous.
Saying Q is assisting ISIL because he has had enough of the daily news of large and small terror attacks is rallying to Waleed’s cause, which is to confuse the issue with a good cop bad cop scenario.
Isn’t the purpose of terror to terrorise, that is, instill fear in those who feel vulnerable?
I agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, nor do they want anything more than a peaceful life, but that is relative to many factors, including the prevailing oversight of the community in which they live, and here’s the thing – what does the average Muslim have to lose if they suddenly find themselves under Sharia? Not much. In fact, they would probably embrace it. So why fight it? Where’s the incentive to halt the warrior class?
The problem is for the rest of the world which doesn’t want to live under Sharia because it is fundamentally against everything the west has evolved into, for better or worse.
And there is an even greater aversion to enforced Sharia. The thing that is most galling is the tendency of the left to be hyper-critical of Christian ethics whilst being totally defensive of Islamic militancy.
This I find incongruous and of great assistance to the ISIL cause, which actually works against the prevailing argument against Qs reticence to accept that ISIL s of no threat to peace at all.
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Q is a poster child for ISIL – they love you Q you are exactly how they want is all to be
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I’m not sure who Q hates more: Ian Roberts or Islamic terrorists.
And spare us your knowledge of the ‘history of Islam’ which you got off an anti-Muslim hate site.
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Is Waleed Aly a terrorist?
Someone’s been reading too much One Nation or United Patriotic Front.
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I am totally against Islamic terrorism.
I am continually defending the hatred shown on this website towards Christians while daily Muslim atrocities are ignored.
Countries with majority Muslim populations curtail freedoms of Muslims and non-Muslims.
Anyone who has studied the life of Muhammad who sanction killing and looting, the spread of Islam, Islamic terrorism in the 20th and 21st centuries, and the current state of Muslim violence is worried.
Have any of you studied the history of Islam?
Do any of you know the current statistics concerning rape, murder, beheadings, drownings, enslaving, denial of rights of non-Muslims in many countries in the world?
Do you?
If not, petty insults don’t interest me.
Quotes from Muslims trying to say that Islam is a religion of peace, and blaming Islamic violence in non-Christians don’t interest me.
The murders in Philippines, Indonesia, Bali, the US, the U.K., Holland, France, Germany, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and many other countries have taken place and will continue to take place regardless of whether I list them or not.
Your attacking of those who criticize Islamic terrorism and defense of the justification only encourages and emboldens Muslims to either commit more atrocities or not speak out against them. You have blood on your hands.
Read about Muhammad, and the history of Islam. Read about the evil being carried about by Muslims.
Find out how many people in Australia are right now employed to protect this country from Islamic terrorism and compare it with his many people are employed to prevent Buddhist or Christian terrorism. Then ask why.
I give facts and statistics. You come up with petty insults that you get from TV as you cowardly just stand with a mob.
You won’t be laughing in ten or twenty years.
Both history and statistics prove that we have s problem with Islamic terrorism and the increase of Muslims.
It’s very very obvious.
Regardless of how much Bones is infatuated with Ian Roberts and Walleed.
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By blaming all Muslims for terrorism, Q is encouraging radicalisation leading to more violence.
Why do you support terrorism, Q?
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Q is helping ISIL………they have told us that…..
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