Joseph Nicolosi dead

 

Catholic psychologist Joseph Nicolosi, one of the world’s leading proponents of ‘ex-gay’ therapy. has died at the age of 70 from flu complications.

From https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/03/10/joseph-nicolosi-father-ex-gay-therapy-dies-flu-complications

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10 thoughts on “Joseph Nicolosi dead

  1. “Do you mean you tried to force yourself to like them but your feelings didn’t continue..”

    Yes. But at the same time those feelings were over-shadowed by much more intense feelings for the guys around me.

    I should clarify too, I could potentially function in a sham heterosexual marriage in Africa, South America or the South Pacific, but there would be no genuine opposite sexual attraction or arousal.

    I think it’s important to note – and this is where Christians get it wrong all the time – it’s not just about the gay man. There is a woman involved who deserves to be loved and cherished by someone who is *genuinely* attracted to her.

    It’s horrible having to watch a woman deal with the inevitable bad ending to a sham marriage which was encouraged by evangelical Christians just so they could try and prove a theological point.

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  2. Groupsects, that was really interesting.

    Can I ask – you said you “tried” to be romantically/sexually attracted two times , but it never eventuated. Do you mean you tried to force yourself to like them but your feelings didn’t continue , or that the feelings were there but weren’t reciprocated, or the relationship didn’t get off the ground.

    “If I had been raised in a different culture like Africa, the South Pacific or South America, then possibly, and I mean, possibly, I would have turned out to be maybe bisexual, maybe straight.”

    Interesting..

    Now I feel like introducing you to some hot Latin babes.
    Or crowdfunding to send you to start a new life where the women are darker and sexier.

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  3. “If you can tell me that you have not once in your life been romantically attracted to a woman, or not once sexually aroused by a woman, then I will accept your experience in good faith – but also feel sorry for you.”

    There was one time in high school when I tried to be romantically attracted to a girl, but it never eventuated.

    And there was one time in church when I tried to be sexually attracted to a woman (who reminded me of a surfie guy) but again, it amounted to nothing.

    I don’t think attraction or arousal is something you *try* to achieve or artificially manufacture. When it’s there, it’s genuine and you have to deal with what’s immediately happening rather than try and *make* it happen..

    Apart from those two specific instances which are pretty lame, I have no concept of what opposite sex attraction would feel like or be like.

    I have spoken with many gay men/bisexual men who find women attractive, but I am not one of them.

    To be specific, there is a racial aspect to all of this .. and I’ve observed this in various forms in the gay community.

    I find Caucasian women very unattractive, while I am more neutral about African, Latino and Pacific Islander women.

    If I had been raised in a different culture like Africa, the South Pacific or South America, then possibly, and I mean, possibly, I would have turned out to be maybe bisexual, maybe straight.

    Emotional and sexual development happens from a very early age .. and the only way I can have this make sense to someone else is to say the brain learns sexuality as a ‘language’ .. like it learns English.

    You can learn other languages but you’ll never forget English.

    ‘Ex-gay’ ministry fails for the same reason ‘ex-English’ ministry would fail.. because you could immerse yourself in another country where another language is spoken, but as soon as you hear someone speaking English, then you’ve returned to your brain’s ‘comfort zone’.

    Don’t feel sorry for me. I’m perfectly happy in my blissful ignorance of a heterosexual state of mind.

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  4. Explorer Pants. You:re even lamer that those old left-wing hacks that used to crawl around here copying and pasting from the underbelly of the internet.

    Keep trying.

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  5. I’m not obsessed at all.
    There was an article about this man. Maybe Groupsects is obsessed with sexual orientation or he wouldn’t have posted it.
    I read the article. And read the comments.

    If anything it shows that I’m open-minded and am willing to read the opinions of people who think differently to me and have different views and experiences to mine.

    If Groupsects doesn’t like my comment he can delete them.

    I AM interested to a certain extent in the truth about sexual orientation because everyday there is something in the news or in blogs like this about it, and people are trying to change not only laws but society because they insist that the world must accept that sexual orientation is fixed and society needs to be changed to recognize that. (Obviously some would argue also that even if it isn’t fixed, that society and laws need to change).

    I’m trying to understand people. Believe it or not. But I’m still not convinced that it’s right for many to rejoice over the death of a man like this.

    I wish I could accept easily that men should be able to marry men and adopt children, that people should be able to call themselves whatever gender they feel they are and use toilets of which sec they feel they are regardless of the sexual organs they were born with – but I’m not yet convinced that this is good for society or those individuals.
    If I’m convinced , you’ll be one of the first to know.

    And it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.
    I.e. It’s got nothing to do with me thinking something is sin and I could discuss the issue without mentioning God, sin or the Bible.

    As I’ve said before, most countries that accept gay marriage and rights are those with Christian backgrounds. The LGBTQI community like to attack and say that Christianity is the problem but that simply isn’t true.

    But – I am interested in sexuality in general.
    Any obs? Lol

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  6. Groupsects.

    The last gay I spoke to said he had .
    You can argue and claim he was lying about bisexuality, but he’d argue with you.

    From what I read about sexuality (from psychologists – not Christians), there is a wide range of sexuality.

    I’d be interested in your review of Diamond’s book on the sexual fluidity of women.

    If you can tell me that you have not once in your life been romantically attracted to a woman, or not once sexually aroused by a woman, then I will accept your experience in good faith – but also feel sorry for you.
    Yes, that will probably enrage you and you’ll say you don’t want pity – but I haven’t met anyone yet who has never been attracted to the opposite sex.
    Biologically it doesn’t make any sense.

    And it shouldn’t be a crime to say so.

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  7. “People. – including self-proclaimed gays, are capable of being sexually and romantically attracted to people of the opposite sex.”

    I think you’re confusing gays with bisexuals.

    Gay people like myself experience no sexual or romantic attraction to the opposite sex.

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  8. Rest in Peace.

    Great man who stood for what he believed in. I took the time to read the article.

    This was interesting.

    “The Southern Poverty Law Center, along with other attorneys, brought a consumer fraud lawsuit against Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing, or JONAH (formerly known as Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality). During the trial a superior court judge barred six experts from testifying, including Nicolosi. “[T]he theory that homosexuality is a disorder is not novel but like the notion that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it instead is outdated and refuted,” Superior Court Judge Peter F. Bariso Jr. said.”

    So, doesnt sound like a fair trial. A judge who is not an expert in psychology refuses to allow six experts? Great. ….

    Reading the comments from that article all I see is hate. Except for a person who quotes recent research on sexual fluidity. Of course they were insulted and blocked.

    People. – including self-proclaimed gays, are capable of being sexually and romantically attracted to people of the opposite sex. That makes sense both to those who believe in a Designer and those who believe in evolution. Males mating with females just makes sense.
    It just does. The opposite doesn’t. There are many men who are thankful for the work of Nicolosi. A man who helps men to be men shouldn’t be castigated. And not more so than a man who helps a man become a woman.

    In other news, two women in Canada were kicked out of a woman’s shelter because they didn’t want to share a bedroom with a transgender. Mind you, the man who said he was a woman, still had a penis and testicles. But he was transitioning. Transitioning?

    So women afraid of men because of violence get kicked out of a shelter in favor of a man. The world has gone crazy.

    1% of people who are confused force the world to change for them. But, they’re doing a great job. Dare i say – they are champions who will keep on fighting to the end. But when will they decided they have reached the end? Thats the scary question.

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